It seems the easy mode advocates are stooping to new lows when trying to justify what is currently the most broken weapon in the game; their deflections consist of the following:
Reagar has bad range
Reagar has little ammo
Reagar is "bad" against armor
If the Reagar is OP, then so is the Claymore
I will the address the last point most extensively but let us get the first ones out of the way:
Bad range BUT you do not need to aim and almost anything you point at dies instantly, you can get multiple kill streaks with with weapon, point and die, no aim, remember that.
Ammo mod can be used and even if not, see first point, point and die from a quarter of a clip.
Use AP ammo or a shredder mod, melts armor like butter
The last point is beyond ridiculous. People argue that because the Claymore has the highest damage in the game, it is equally OP but let's look at the facts; Claymore weighs a ton, the Reagar is lighter than the GPS and Graal; Claymore requires aim and practice to use proficiently and you pay for missed shots with your life sometimes, more than one enemy can swarm you and you will die, Reagar melts Phantoms near instantly. Claymore range, even with smart choke is OK at best, the spread will usually not be tight enough beyond short to short-medium range. Claymore needs multiple shots to get past their DR. So it seems people are dishonestly equating damage output with a gun that requires no aim, no skill and can melt an Atlas in 2 clips (which are used up in seconds, meaning melted Atlas in seconds) AND can get Kill streaks just by pointing. Dishonest and unreflective on the part of the deflectionists.
Concerning the deflection/denial that the Reagar is broken via false argumentation that the Claymore is "also" OP
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Stardusk
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:13
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I see no one can offer more false claims that the Claymore is "OP".
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:16
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Tbh, I tried it with shredder and ap ammo, and "OP" is an understatement.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:16
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It's only OP because ap ammo/shredder mod works on it. While definetly it shouldn't.
Also, only infiltrators can rock with it
Also, only infiltrators can rock with it
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:16
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SalvationThroughDestruction wrote...
Tbh, I tried it with shredder and ap ammo, and "OP" is an understatement.
Exactly
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:16
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Stardusk said...
Claymore needs multiple shots to get past their DR.
What are you referring to with this?
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:17
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I would imagine a Vanguard would do well.kr3g wrote...
It's only OP because ap ammo/shredder mod works on it. While definetly it shouldn't.
Also, only infiltrators can rock with it
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:17
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I suppose people will see for themselves after some time passes that playing with a weapon that doesn't really reward any skill or experience, just melts everything isn't as fun as they thought.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:17
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Adragalus wrote...
Stardusk said...
Claymore needs multiple shots to get past their DR.
What are you referring to with this?
The only time a Claymore can OSOK a Phantom is with a clean headshot when she is stationary. Reager>point>die
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:19
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Reegar "bad" against armor? Have these people never used the Reegar Carbine?
Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 31 mai 2012 - 11:21 .
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:20
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Its still a gun that eats its mag quickly and has the range of nothing. I must be pretty bad cause atleast the gun at Level 1 I'm still only killing 2-3 guys a mag, like most other guns I have.
If we're arguing over Level 10, than may as well nerf everything as everything is amazing at 10
If we're arguing over Level 10, than may as well nerf everything as everything is amazing at 10
Modifié par Doommarine23, 31 mai 2012 - 11:21 .
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:21
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GodlessPaladin wrote...
Reegar "bad" against armor? Are we talking about the same Reegar Carbine here?
Someone said that. LOL
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:21
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GodlessPaladin wrote...
Reegar "bad" against armor? Are we talking about the same Reegar Carbine here?
^ This.
The Reegar just melt everything. That's beyond ridiculous.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:21
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I should post a video of me using the Reegar. I unlocked it and... o_O
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:21
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Coupled with the current glitch with Flamer, it'll melt anything in front of you. I'll be enjoying the ridiculous nature of it while it lasts. I assume they'll be removing the AP bonuses at least. Gun wouldn't be so crazy then, but then again, mine is only at II or III.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:22
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Reegar is easy to use and OP as hell, but it is still behind GPS/Graal/Claymore/Wraith in terms of overall utility.
Reegar would be better balanced if the Shredder Mod and Ammo equipment did not work for that weapon. Currently, it is a lolinstawinweapon, and that makes it super boring IMHO.
Reegar would be better balanced if the Shredder Mod and Ammo equipment did not work for that weapon. Currently, it is a lolinstawinweapon, and that makes it super boring IMHO.
Modifié par Kronner, 31 mai 2012 - 11:25 .
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:23
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i melted the entire shields and 50% armor of an Atlas with one clip.i was using armor piercing rounds I on a Reegar V.nuff said no?i have no video,but everyone who doesnt believe it, can go into a gold game and test it for themselves.
i think its a fun weapon design,but with the current DMG, also instawin.i dont want to sound like i think that my humble opinion is absolute,but if you dont find it easy mode with that gun,then quite frankly youre not skilled enough to judge it.
or:
www.youtube.com/watch
i think its a fun weapon design,but with the current DMG, also instawin.i dont want to sound like i think that my humble opinion is absolute,but if you dont find it easy mode with that gun,then quite frankly youre not skilled enough to judge it.
or:
www.youtube.com/watch
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:23
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Buddha840 wrote...
Coupled with the current glitch with Flamer, it'll melt anything in front of you. I'll be enjoying the ridiculous nature of it while it lasts. I assume they'll be removing the AP bonuses at least. Gun wouldn't be so crazy then, but then again, mine is only at II or III.
I am not even going to try the glitch.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:25
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The Claymore is OP, so is the Reager Carbine. The Reager is also not just a point and die on Gold. It requires aiming for the head just like the Claymore for one clip/shot to be a kill unless it is an unprotected target.
I am sure that they will either add weight or lower damage on it in the future, probably because of all the people like the OP that get sooooooo upset that a weapon is not "balanced" for a PvE co-op game.
I am sure that they will either add weight or lower damage on it in the future, probably because of all the people like the OP that get sooooooo upset that a weapon is not "balanced" for a PvE co-op game.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:25
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How do you kill something with the carbine if your beam is not touching it ?
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:25
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What happens when you start the Reegar and then cloak. Does the cloak bonus apply to the whole stream/clip?
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:26
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so broken=op ? where dose that use of the word come from?
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:27
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But it does not necessarily need multiple shots to bypass DR (shieldgate? maybe just "do enough damage to kill" is a better term)Stardusk wrote...
Adragalus wrote...
Stardusk said...
Claymore needs multiple shots to get past their DR.
What are you referring to with this?
The only time a Claymore can OSOK a Phantom is with a clean headshot when she is stationary. Reager>point>die
Reegar>further than 10 feet away>you die
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:27
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Stardusk wrote...
Buddha840 wrote...
Coupled with the current glitch with Flamer, it'll melt anything in front of you. I'll be enjoying the ridiculous nature of it while it lasts. I assume they'll be removing the AP bonuses at least. Gun wouldn't be so crazy then, but then again, mine is only at II or III.
I am not even going to try the glitch.
Since I got the vorcha and this weapon in the same time, I tried them together.
Well, it's like godmode, you get the damage from the reegar + the flamer, and once the reegar is depleted you continue firing your flamer without the walking speed penalty.
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Posté 31 mai 2012 - 11:28
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I don't know what's wrong with you people. The damn Reeger's too situational to be called overpowered, and I don't know how it can be any more obvious. I tried using it on my 3 best classes yesterday, Soldier, Sentinel, and Vanguard, and I was going down faster and more often than the proverbial "yo momma." I play regularly on Gold with reasonable success, so it ain't that I don't know how to play the game. But that range is a killer, particularly on the slower classes that actually have the ability to survive a close-up encounter, it doesn't stagger well enough, and I had to reload basically every time I took out an enemy, which is a lot of wasted, vulnerable seconds that start adding up. I'm not using it any more because it doesn't work for me, or anyone who doesn't want enemies invading their personal space for the entirety of the match.
It's fun in the right hands, deadly at the right moments, but most people aren't going to be as effective with it as they are with the Shotguns they've been using until now. I can't imagine how anyone can think it's overpowered unless they only know how to play Bronze, or maybe have never actually used it themselves.
It's fun in the right hands, deadly at the right moments, but most people aren't going to be as effective with it as they are with the Shotguns they've been using until now. I can't imagine how anyone can think it's overpowered unless they only know how to play Bronze, or maybe have never actually used it themselves.
