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Concerning the deflection/denial that the Reagar is broken via false argumentation that the Claymore is "also" OP


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#176
Adragalus

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Zjarcal wrote...

Stardusk doesn't like the Reegar and feels we must be informed about it, good for him. Everyone else can go have fun with it.

This so bloody much.

Thank you, Zjarcal.

#177
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I don't like the idea of a nerfing only one week after the DLC release. I can't even enjoy the weapon.

*Sigh* Back to my Claymore/GPS/Carnifex/Widow/Valiant/the same weapons again and again...

#178
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I personally expect the Reegar will be nerfed and everyone will go back to the Claymore. Then someone will say "As it should be".

Also range really does matter. The Reegar is very good at what it does and very bad at what it doesn't. Good play can get around the bad, but there are a number of situations where the Reegar sucks. Get suppressed by rocket troopers and there's not much room to maneuver, and if every enemy stays in cover away from you and just shoots you to death if you pop up there's not much the Reegar can do to help you. Cloak greatly simplifies that though.

I really haven't seen anyone truly dominate with it yet. About the only thing I've seen where I can definitely say "Yes, that went much better than normal because I had Reegar" was against a swarm of Geth Hunters, which are notorious death causing machines, and the Reegar simply melted them all. I imagine Shredder + AP Ammo would be murder to armor as well.

Personally I don't think it makes much sense that ammo mods work with it, but eh.

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Claymore is OP at badassery. If I had medigel cancel I don't know if I'd ever use any other weapon.

On a side note I hate the Reegar because it snares you. It is good though, no doubt, but I'd only use it on Krogan Vanguard since he's already so damn slow anyways.

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Stardusk wrote...

They are all over the place. I am currently uploading and posting my Vorcha Guide.

www.youtube.com/watch


That's the build I will probably put on my soldier once I get a respec card. Eff carnage. Max the rest.

I'd rather have a 10% boost on my carnifex and 15% boost on flamer than two shot troopers on silver.

#181
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Kronner wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

If you play a novaguard, anything less than 200 is a death sentence.


LOL

 


Yeah. Important memo: having a biotic death squad following you and detonating everything tends to increase survivability over 9,000%

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Adragalus wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Stardusk doesn't like the Reegar and feels we must be informed about it, good for him. Everyone else can go have fun with it.

This so bloody much.

Thank you, Zjarcal.



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The reegar IS bad against armor UNTIL you use a shredder mod and AP ammo. Then armor just... melts.

#184
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Reegar barely damages armor, has an extremely short range, and eats ammo extremely fast. Plus it has a delay so you have to hold down the trigger a bit before it actually fires, leaving you wide open if your behind cover.

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BloodClaw95 wrote...

Reegar barely damages armor, has an extremely short range, and eats ammo extremely fast. Plus it has a delay so you have to hold down the trigger a bit before it actually fires, leaving you wide open if your behind cover.

Read th thread please before posting. Put on Shredder and/or AP ammo and enjoy.

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neteng101 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

The only time a Claymore can OSOK a Phantom is with a clean headshot when she is stationary. Reager>point>die


This sumes it up basically...  you're just unhappy that those less skilled players can now emulate the same success as those more skilled players.  Claymore is OP in the hands of a good player, while Reegar is OP in the hands of all players, and that makes it bad?

In reality, the average player in ME3 will have a hard time dealing with the short range of the Reegar and get killed a lot instead trying to use it in CQC.  The Claymore is at least not range-bound the way the Reeger is.

The 1% here are ruining the game for everyone else.  If you're good, just learn to be thankful that you have those skills, but stop trying to ruin things for everyone else.  Otherwise, it just makes you arrogant, self centered, braggarts of the worse possible way.


Quoted for truth. I am not skilled player and main a long-range weapon (AR or SR) on my weapon-based characters. I have a Reegar only as a sidearm and use it when the enemies get too close for me to handle.

If I actively close-in with mobs on gold using this weapon, I am almost guaranteed to eat the floor in short order. 


zhk3r wrote...

< - - - Loves the Claymore and recognizes it's a good weapon. Not overpowered - good. 

But it's only good in competent hands. If you're a bad shot, the gun is not for you. As Stardusk mentioned you'll pay with your life most of the time if you miss a shot. This is even more true for console players who can't cancel the reload animation with MediGel like we can on PC. 

The Reegar is the most retarded weapon I've seen in this game yet. The new sniper rifle is not even close to being as overpowered as this gun is - and that sniper is already waaaay to good for it's weight. I tried it on the Phoenix Adept the first time I tried it - and I thought, "damn, this class is good!" - turns out it was the gun that was good. With Shredder and Armor Piercing ammo it's just beyond retarded. It literally melts a Brute in one second. 

(As for the Broguard-talk. I'm a Broguard and I can tell you that even with Full Blast 200 % CD is NOT a must).

 

If we are going to use this argument, I can OHK Brutes and Ravagers with my Claymore in FBDagger on gold on the bottom platforms all the way from the middle bunker. That is with my infiltrator using shotgun rails and AP ammo at level 3. The Brute and Ravager are big enough that I can hit all the pellets even at sniper distance.

The Reegar can only down these bosses at close range and that is a distance I'm not comfortable fighting them.

EDIT: And before anyone complains that I'm using an infiltrator in my example, note that melting a brute on gold in ONE clip requires you to use an infiltrator as well. All other classes have to reload at least once to down a brute. Almost like a rangeless Claymore in fact.

Modifié par archdevilhunter, 01 juin 2012 - 09:40 .


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One more example of people confusing overpowered classes (Infiltrators) with overpowered weapons.

Please just stop.

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Arc Grenade is OP. Insane radius, huge DOT, can easily incapacitate 10+ enemies, spammable with the right mod (grenade capacity), DOES NOT REQUIRE AIM. Point and throw, win.

Surely Stardusk won't make use of a newbie power like that in his upcoming Male Quarian Engineer guide.

Modifié par laurencium, 01 juin 2012 - 12:36 .


#189
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 I just got my claymore X last night and I am loving it. It's just awesome, sure it has drawbacks but it's upside far out weigh them. As an infiltrator I barely have to aim to begin with, since they can't see me I just take my time and line up my perfect shot.  Do I think it OP?  It is a fantastic weapon, maybe the best IMO.    Not really so I can see where Starstruck is coming from. But then again I don't see the new shotgun being OP either, but I'll need to get my hand on one before I can say that with authority. 

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Stardusk is clearly actually just a hipster.

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kiko1287

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I would call myself a little bit above average player, and I've been looking like a freakin master of this game with that gun on gold. it is over powered but let people enjoy it for a bit, I'm sure it'll get nerfed later anyways.

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I played with people using both of the new guns last night. The only person to outscore my BW, was a GI with a Claymore. Nerfers do not know what they are talking about. The three new guns are not close to the best guns.

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I also score higher with BW, GPS, Claymore, and AA than I do with the new guns.

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Gotta disagree with a your point about ease of aiming - cmore is just as easy to aim when you are at point blank range. It's the damage that is the problem here.

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Krozuhsky wrote...

Stardusk is clearly actually just a hipster.

I liked the claymore before it was cool to like the claymore. 

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The problem I have is that the Reegar is killing the fun out of the game for me. Perhaps partially because while other people seem to have gotten it to X almost instantly (along with the new sniper) I've yet to receive level one (despite opening a lot of packs and unlocking all but one of the new classes). Every game I join of level silver or gold has at least one player with the Reegar and usually (at least in Gold) at level X. They usually end up with double the score of anyone else and kill things so quickly I feel like I may as well just stand around and smoke or something and let them get on with it. Were I to only care about making cash that would be fine, but I want to enjoy the game and when playing with people with the Reegar, it's just not fun any more.

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i hate it when im using Reeger on a boss and someone nukes it. they need to nerf rockets because it just isnt fun.

also they need to nerf ammo packs because grenade spam whipes out spawns to fast.

medigel is cheating too.

hell they should just nerf everything and delete all weapons except for the predator.
plus they should delete all races/class's except for human soldier and only let player spend points in fitness with only the health/shield boxes to choose.

they will nerf the Reeger soon enough though then you will see everyone using the same old guns again....