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Krysae + Tactical Cloak (Rank 6) Is OP


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EDIT: Before you post some absurd reply, READ THE POST. At no point do I suggest changing a functional stat on this gun. I simply suggested a change that would get rid of overpowered synergy with a single class on a single skill evolution.

With an infiltrator, at least, the Krysae  is insane. Somebody said to make it an assault rifle in another thread, so it doesn't get the 1.4 from tactical cloak. This would be a good fix.

This was done on Goddess / Gold, with only the enemy being random. So if it was a random map, that makes it... a 215k ish run? The last place guy joined on wave 4-5 after some guy left and the team wasn't bad at all.

EDIT: Since there seems to be some confusion on this matter, I'm not saying "this is the highest score ever." I'm not saying "I did well, therefore nerf." I'm saying this score should not be so easily achieved. The Krysae is painfully easy to use, unlike other weapons infiltrators can achieve this score with.

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While we are at it, the Reegar needs to not benefit from armor penetration mods. This would make it strip shields and suck against armor, as it should be.

Seeing as the Harrier is a good assault rifle, I smell incoming nerfs. Afterall, we couldn't have a GOOD assault rifle, could we? (Leave my Harrier alone!)

Modifié par 1337haxwtg, 31 mai 2012 - 03:50 .


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No comments? Sadface.

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....eh that rifle needs to be fixed...its inconsistent and glitchy...when it works its the best rifle I have...

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Why do you want it to be nerfed?

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xtorma

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People get those kinds of scores with other weapons. I am not sure what you are trying to prove here.

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The Reeger Carbine is just as OP imo. Its got short range but most of the maps are quite tight anyway so having a messed up powerful Electric "flame" throwe is ace

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Enhanced wrote...

Why do you want it to be nerfed?

 

If for no other reason than because I would like to see a variety of weapons and builds in MP. Having one insanely good weapon or class ruins the variety of the game and makes it wear out faster. No weapon should be clearly better than another by this large a margin.


xtorma wrote...

People get those kinds of scores with other weapons. I am not sure what you are trying to prove here.


215k scores? Few people do that.

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Enhanced wrote... Why do you want it to be nerfed?


Because balance is a good thing.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 31 mai 2012 - 12:58 .


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Have you considered that he might just be a very good infiltrator? Technically that gun does have a big drawback, as it has quite a long bullet travel time. I haven't tried it off host, but i'd guess it was pretty spotty, even with the proxy detonation.

Having said that, i used it on silver and it dominated everything, especially when you know how to use proxy mines. I'd guess a level X may get rather excessive.

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Seriously?> I've seen better scores than that. This gun aint that good, it's that most of the other guns blow.

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Nanostronghold wrote...

Have you considered that he might just be a very good infiltrator? Technically that gun does have a big drawback, as it has quite a long bullet travel time. I haven't tried it off host, but i'd guess it was pretty spotty, even with the proxy detonation.

Having said that, i used it on silver and it dominated everything, especially when you know how to use proxy mines. I'd guess a level X may get rather excessive.


Well, that infiltrator is me. ;)

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Let me ask you this: If you guys think everything is OP, why do you keep playing this "easy" game?

I for one, is not a professional palyer and think that gold is hard.

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I score higher with my BW. Every good gun doesn't need nerfed. Stop using it if you have a problem with it.

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jerrinehart wrote...

Seriously?> I've seen better scores than that. This gun aint that good, it's that most of the other guns blow.

Looks like we got a ba- okay, not worth the effort.

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really it often hit for little or no damage for me even coming out of cloak. I had better luck aiming for the floor and letting the splash damage to the work

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The problem with the Krysae is that it's only godlike in the hands of the GI or SI which makes it a true "glass cannon" load out...

TC > proxy mine > krysae = lethal
(especially combined with hunter mode on the GI)

... otherwise it's just a really good heavy sniper rifle comparable to the BW or Valiant in effectiveness (though it performs a role more akin to the Falcon)... I'm not sure how to make it less OP in the hands of an SI or GI without breaking it completely though, it should probably be Ultra Rare and possibly have some kind of debuff more imaginative than just a damage nerf - speed reduction maybe as someone suggested in the massive "Krysae needs a nerf thread" (could get all Counterstrike - switch to a pistol when running to position, then switch to the huge sniper rifle of death).

Modifié par Chealec, 31 mai 2012 - 01:05 .


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Oh look! Another "nerf this"/"buff that!" thread.

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Eeeh not that OP, imo. I mean, yeah, 185k for one player is really good, but your teammates were 2 enginees and a vanguard - so obviously you were the only massive damagedealer.
And it is easily possible to get high roundscores, it depends in part on what objectives you get and in part of how many medals etc. you have. I had a run just now on Jade against geth, for example, with two infiltrators, and engi and an adept on team - me with BW had ~110k, another infiltrator with valiant had ~130k, the other two had scores around 60k mark. So it is possible for total highscores be quite high up there.

I won't deny that the gun is quite good in an infiltrator's hands. However. A good inf. with another "good" sniper rifle could also get that score, with some luck.

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1337haxwtg wrote...

jerrinehart wrote...

Seriously?> I've seen better scores than that. This gun aint that good, it's that most of the other guns blow.

Looks like we got a ba- okay, not worth the effort.

Dude, yesterday I two manned Gold Reapers like 5 games in a row with just an AA and AJ, noone is crying nerf for BE's, etc. Just cause something actually works well, dosen't mean it's OP. It just means they need to fix the stuff that dosen't work at all.

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Ean_Txelan wrote...

Let me ask you this: If you guys think everything is OP, why do you keep playing this "easy" game?


That's an obvious straw man argument.  He didn't say that everything was OP.  He said that the Krysae was.

Let me ask you this:  Would it kill you to have a civil discussion where you respond to what people actually say instead of some absurd extreme position you concocted yourself and attributed to a hive mind "you guys?"

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 31 mai 2012 - 01:08 .


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Maybe they should put in a subroutines that detects people who get more than 2X the next highest score and nerf them. That would be great for balance.

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jerrinehart wrote...

1337haxwtg wrote...

jerrinehart wrote...

Seriously?> I've seen better scores than that. This gun aint that good, it's that most of the other guns blow.

Looks like we got a ba- okay, not worth the effort.

Dude, yesterday I two manned Gold Reapers like 5 games in a row with just an AA and AJ, noone is crying nerf for BE's, etc. Just cause something actually works well, dosen't mean it's OP. It just means they need to fix the stuff that dosen't work at all.


So basically, I'm wrong for saying nerf it. Instead, buff nearly everything else. In that case, we would need platinum difficulty.

Go brag elsewhere if you cannot contribute in a reasonable manner.

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 Did you use equipment?

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1337haxwtg wrote...

Nanostronghold wrote...

Have you considered that he might just be a very good infiltrator? Technically that gun does have a big drawback, as it has quite a long bullet travel time. I haven't tried it off host, but i'd guess it was pretty spotty, even with the proxy detonation.

Having said that, i used it on silver and it dominated everything, especially when you know how to use proxy mines. I'd guess a level X may get rather excessive.


Well, that infiltrator is me. ;)


Ahhh, i thought you were commenting on a fellow gamer's score :P. In that case, what level was the gun for that game? I mean, i've gotten close to that score with my level 3 Falcon - Drell Adept, and sniper infiltrator is easier, so i'm tending to think it's not quite OP, just borderline, like the Widow with reload cancelling (Or the Claymore with PC elite reload cancelling)

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Why would you want a GOOD gun to be nerfed? Everybody is constantly complaining about all the bad guns. So you should be happy there are some good guns. They better not touch it! I love it the way it is.