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[GeneralElectric]

Don't nerf it, just fix the fact that it sometimes fires blanks! This gun is to sniper rifles what the Carnifex (or Paladin, if you can get it upgraded) is to pistols, it's just that the infiltrator gets the snazzy sniper rifle damage bonuses that make it the best weapon damage dealing class. I don't think anything needs to get nerfed here, I think that some other classes need to get buffed and get better weapon damage bonuses to make them comparable to the mighty infiltrator.

The downside to the weapon is that you're probably not going to be getting headshots (can you even get headshots with this thing?) since aiming at the floor works great, and this means that other sniper rifles are not going to lose their value for skilled headhunters.

Modifié par GeneralElectric, 31 mai 2012 - 01:28 .

[1337haxwtg]

AwesomeDudex64 wrote...

Alright this community sucks, I'm done with this game.

And no, I will not hit my head on the way out.

You want to know what is so bad about this community? People resorting to personal attacks to prove poorly thought out points.

I'm not saying a score like this is impossible with other guns, I'm saying it is EASIER with this gun.

I know the score isn't exactly a fair way of pointing out overpowered things, but it is the best means we have, aside from trying the thing yourself. So go ahead and try it if you don't believe me.

[nomad311]

I just played a gold v geth last night, me GI with Krysae, another GI with Falcon. Now, I'm not a super hardcore player, but I'm competent. He doubled me up using the Falcon. The falcon has a much larger explosion radius. So do you want that reduced too?

[jerrinehart]

GeneralElectric wrote...

Don't nerf it, just fix the fact that it sometimes fires blanks! This gun is to sniper rifles what the Carnifex (or Paladin, if you can get it upgraded) is to pistols, it's just that the infiltrator gets the snazzy sniper rifle damage bonuses that make it the best weapon damage dealing class. I don't think anything needs to get nerfed here, I think that some other classes need to get buffed and get better weapon damage bonuses to make them comparable to the mighty infiltrator.

The downside to the weapon is that you're probably not going to be getting headshots (can you even get headshots with this thing?) since aiming at the floor works great, and this means that other sniper rifles are not going to lose their value for skilled headhunters.

Exactly. The gun works well, and that is fantastic. I think we should quit wasting our time complaining about this type of stuff and use that energy for constuctive means to get stuff that needs fixed thats been broken since this game launched. Buuuut, hey it's a free country., People will do what they gonna do.

[DNC Protoman]

GeneralElectric wrote...

Don't nerf it, just fix the fact that it sometimes fires blanks! This gun is to sniper rifles what the Carnifex (or Paladin, if you can get it upgraded) is to pistols, it's just that the infiltrator gets the snazzy sniper rifle damage bonuses that make it the best weapon damage dealing class. I don't think anything needs to get nerfed here, I think that some other classes need to get buffed and get better weapon damage bonuses to make them comparable to the mighty infiltrator.

The downside to the weapon is that you're probably not going to be getting headshots (can you even get headshots with this thing?) since aiming at the floor works great, and this means that other sniper rifles are not going to lose their value for skilled headhunters.

I support this post.,

[The Milky Waver]

Here's an idea, make the krysae an ultra rare, instead of just a rare! Then so many people wouldn't get it as often, and it would live up to its greatness, just like the harrier, so I hear.

Modifié par The Milky Waver, 31 mai 2012 - 01:31 .

[GodlessPaladin]

GeneralElectric wrote...

Don't nerf it, just fix the fact that it sometimes fires blanks! This gun is to sniper rifles what the Carnifex (or Paladin, if you can get it upgraded) is to pistols

No it isn't.  The Carnifex and Paladin are fine and if anything overrated.  By contrast the Krysae is generating new "fastest speedrun" videos (with all infiltrators rather than a mixed team) on day 1.  There is a difference.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 31 mai 2012 - 01:34 .

[A Wild Snorlax]

That's an average score for me if I'm playing geth infiltrator with randoms. Getting a semi-good score like that proves nothing.

[jerrinehart]

1337haxwtg wrote...

AwesomeDudex64 wrote...

Alright this community sucks, I'm done with this game.

And no, I will not hit my head on the way out.

You want to know what is so bad about this community? People resorting to personal attacks to prove poorly thought out points.

I'm not saying a score like this is impossible with other guns, I'm saying it is EASIER with this gun.

I know the score isn't exactly a fair way of pointing out overpowered things, but it is the best means we have, aside from trying the thing yourself. So go ahead and try it if you don't believe me.

But, it's also easier to get higher scores with a Paladin, or Carnifex, or a BW, or a Valiant, or BE's..I don't understand what the problem is? This gun is a GOOD gun. We should be thanking Bioware for trying to make decent weapons that work well and asking them to fix the ones that don't.

[GodlessPaladin]

GeneralElectric wrote...
The downside to the weapon is that you're probably not going to be getting headshots (can you even get headshots with this thing?) since aiming at the floor works great, and this means that other sniper rifles are not going to lose their value for skilled headhunters.

The Krysae bypasses the shield gate and deals enough damage to blow away enemies without headshots anyways in the hands of an Infiltrator.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 31 mai 2012 - 01:37 .

[kevchy]

You guy are so gonna cry sooooo hard when this gets nerfed. Mark my words.

[C.M Liu]

pureblooded88 wrote...

Just B/c you cant play with that gun and score that high doesnt means the gun should be nerf. Its the player not the gun. any skilled player would be able to get that score with any gun

Agree, I have this gun at level 10, but I sometime get lowest score in gold match.  I remember the Falcon, it is just not so much fun to play it anymore.   I do not  want to see it happen again.  This sniper rifle is fine, even I am not good at it.

[1337haxwtg]

I guess maybe the title of the thread wasn't that clear either, or people didn't bother to read it. The gun can remain as-is and be fine if it didn't get the infiltrator's sniper damage boost from TC. So it is hardly a nerf on the gun, but rather a nerf on the combination of the gun on an infiltrator.

[John123453242]

It isn't 215k, no matter how you spin it.

I bet you I could easily outscore you with my BW.

[Chealec]

Enhanced wrote...

Chealec wrote...

The problem with the Krysae is that it's only godlike in the hands of the GI or SI which makes it a true "glass cannon" load out...

TC > proxy mine > krysae = lethal
(especially combined with hunter mode on the GI)

... otherwise it's just a really good heavy sniper rifle comparable to the BW or Valiant in effectiveness (though it performs a role more akin to the Falcon)... I'm not sure how to make it less OP in the hands of an SI or GI without breaking it completely though, it should probably be Ultra Rare and possibly have some kind of debuff more imaginative than just a damage nerf - speed reduction maybe as someone suggested in the massive "Krysae needs a nerf thread" (could get all Counterstrike - switch to a pistol when running to position, then switch to the huge sniper rifle of death).

Any weapon can be godlike in the hands of G.I.

True - but this is an explody-death weapon that gets the Infiltrator sniper rifle buffs which kinda makes it godlike+1

It's not without its downsides though - poor damage per shot on single targets, when used by anything other than infiltrators, as far as the big 3-shot sniper rifles go (it does less damage per shot than the Valiant if you factor in headshots), slow fire rate, slow reload time, can't quick-fire from cover (you have to "aim" shot) no armour piercing even with the mod, no headshot bonuses and it's not that great against "boss" monsters, I can clear Brutes/Ravagers for instance, quicker with my Salarian Infiltrator with a Wraith or my QI with a Valiant.

The big difference comes (and this is where you get the big scores) when things are clustered together... with a Valiant wielding QI you can kill a Phantom (on gold) in one cloak cycle with headshots. A GI with the Krysae can clear 2-3 Phantoms, if they're clustered together, with proxy mine > Krysae in a single cloak cycle.

On Glacier the GI with the Krysae can be absolutely ridiculous (had a friend asking me to leave him something to kill when the mooks were wandering out of the spawn and I was spamming proxy mine + Krysae at them).

[A Wild Snorlax]

Putting one of the best weapons on the best class = really good, no **** sherlock.

I really don't get why you people want it nerfed. If it's so overpowered, just don't use it on the infiltrator? Use it on a nromal classes, it's hardly overpowered on those.

If you think somthings overpowered just don't use it, no one is forcing you to use it.. I think a GPS infiltrator is kind of OP(more than this thing) so I don't use it much. Geez. If people like the Krysae let them have their fun.

[ryoldschool]

1337haxwtg wrote...

Now people are claiming engineers are incapable of pumping out DPS.

I... okay.

Ok, we just got the darn gun.  Not everyone has it at X yet.  If it turns out that you can use it on a GI like ME2 Mattock with Arush - which I consider OP, then yes they should consider changing it.   I do not believe that your small sample size of your experience so far with the gun is a reasonable basis for nerfing this gun.

Like I posted in every one of these threads, it plays the same on my GI as my Claymore ( have both at X ).  And I do not dominate matches by any means.  So bioware will need to look at the performance of the gun by the whole community.   I actually paid some money for my PSPs to get this gun to X already.  So you asking to nerf a gun that is working for me that I actually paid money for does not sit well with me.  I am a bit tired of always using the Claymore when I need to play my best character and this gun is a fun substitute and works well.   If it does break the game then fine, consider changing it.   But you and other players that call for nerf don't know the entire population experience with this gun.

Give it some time.

[1337haxwtg]

Alright, I'm done. I can't deal with this "I could do better than you, therefore it is fine," and "of course it is good on an infiltrator" crap. I specifically said how to nerf it FOR INFILTRATORS ONLY.

My score aside, any person that could tie his or her own shoes can get a score like this with this gun. If you don't see that, I can't make you.

Modifié par 1337haxwtg, 31 mai 2012 - 01:42 .

[Canned Madness]

This gun is more an RPG and it shouldn't get the cloak sniper buff or turn it into an assault rifle, just keep the scope. On another note I remember you from earlier today playing silver on godess against cerberus, wave 9 I checked the score you were just about to break 80,000 whilst we were all just under 30,000.

[Nocturnalfox]

A 1337 player asking for a nerf? 

Make it happen BW /sarcasm 

[GodlessPaladin]

ryoldschool wrote...
Give it some time.

This is a gun that got people posting new "Fastest speed run" vids with four infiltrators using it within hours of it being released.  What do you expect more time to establish?

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 31 mai 2012 - 01:44 .

[I_pity_the_fool]

Hey man, not trying to brag, or argue for that matter, just trying to make a point. Some of the stuff in the MP works well because it was designed well, some stuff not so well. I think we just notice the stuff that works well more because there is so much that doesn't. I honestly think it's silly asking for a gun to be toned down when I personally think it's just fine, and there is so much more constuctive stuff we could be asking for them to fix. But hey, whatever man, do your thing.

But, it's also easier to get higher scores with a Paladin, or Carnifex, or a BW, or a Valiant, or BE's..I don't understand what the problem is? This gun is a GOOD gun. We should be thanking Bioware for trying to make decent weapons that work well and asking them to fix the ones that don't.

What do you mean by "decent weapon"? Is it that you think that if ME3 were a better designed game, weapons would be more powerful?

Or to put it another way, what would make MEcoop better? If guns were very much more powerful and you could have ****tons of fun just blowing everything up, or if the game were harder, punished small mistakes, and made every match a close-run thing were you could only survive with skill, ingenuity and tight teamwork?

I don't really want to pass judgment on which form of videogame is better, but it seems you and GodlessPaladin have different ideas of what makes a game "fun".

Modifié par I_pity_the_fool, 31 mai 2012 - 01:44 .

[InfamousResult]

ryoldschool wrote...

I do not believe that your small sample size of your experience so far with the gun is a reasonable basis for nerfing this gun.

Seeing that he's not the only one calling for a nerf- and there have been a lot of people asking for this gun to get nerfed, even though this community is obviously against nerfs as a whole- I wouldn't exactly call it a "small sample size". The weapon is ridiculously easy to use and has a ridiculous killing power for such an ease of use. The OP didn't even call for a big nerf- just switching it from a Sniper to an AR would make it less useful for Infiltrators. Still useful for them, but not as ridiculously so.

[1337haxwtg]

Canned Madness wrote...

This gun is more an RPG and it shouldn't get the cloak sniper buff or turn it into an assault rifle, just keep the scope. On another note I remember you from earlier today playing silver on godess against cerberus, wave 9 I checked the score you were just about to break 80,000 whilst we were all just under 30,000.

Yep, I remember you. Finally, somebody that understands what "make it an AR but keep it the same" means.

[GodlessPaladin]

www.youtube.com/watch.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 31 mai 2012 - 01:47 .