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[Kel Riever]

Yeah, no. Sorry. Don't care who you are, you haven't played enough with any new stuff to call for nerfing yet. Or know enough about what has been just released.

No, you haven't.  Ego check.

Modifié par Kel Riever, 31 mai 2012 - 03:07 .

[LukC]

Gun is good, but not op. Stay away from it. I want fun in a game

[soulscore]

1337haxwtg wrote...

soulscore wrote...

1337haxwtg wrote...

neteng101 wrote...

RazRei wrote...

Don't nerf the gun, change it.

Also if you're not an infiltrator it isn't as overly powerful as you think it is. 

No, don't change it.  Its meant for the lesser infiltrators ie. the average player.

Bioware should just ignore the elitist trolls really.

Stop attacking us for differing in opinion or get the hell out of the thread. I'm not an elitest by any stretch of the word. There are players who are better and worse than me. I play to have fun, not to have a high score. I stick with the teams, communicate, revive, and help with objectives.

You know nothing of me because I've neverplayed with you. Now that you see me stating that an obviously ridiculous setup needs changed, I'm an eitist troll? I guess elitest trolls must use their time posting threads helping others learn to snipe and to inform people about how to avoid bugs, etc.

There is no reason one gun should make any person gold-viable and already gold-viable players unstoppable killing machines.

takes two to tango look in a mirror before bashing others

I'm not doing any name-calling.

no but your first line seems harsher than his name calling

[Applepie_Svk]

I already told that yesterday and some peoples laught ...

[Dynamik78]

I don't understand all this fuzz
I never outscored myself using the Krysae
If I play SI with Widow/BW or GI with Claymore/GPS I destroy everything much more
theres really no point in what you want nerf people

Then if you nerf this gun then nerf Energy Drain / Cloak / Hunter Mode because THEY ARE OP
The Krysae has very slow soots and recharge speed meaning those hot shot Valiant/BW users will still get better scores
BAH ALL THIS NONSENSE RUINS MY DAYS

I challenge any of you to play a game with me using BW and another using Krysae
see where i score the most (TIP:  Headshots give more score )

Modifié par Dynamik78, 31 mai 2012 - 03:14 .

[1337haxwtg]

soulscore wrote...

1337haxwtg wrote...

soulscore wrote...

1337haxwtg wrote...

neteng101 wrote...

RazRei wrote...

Don't nerf the gun, change it.

Also if you're not an infiltrator it isn't as overly powerful as you think it is. 

No, don't change it.  Its meant for the lesser infiltrators ie. the average player.

Bioware should just ignore the elitist trolls really.

Stop attacking us for differing in opinion or get the hell out of the thread. I'm not an elitest by any stretch of the word. There are players who are better and worse than me. I play to have fun, not to have a high score. I stick with the teams, communicate, revive, and help with objectives.

You know nothing of me because I've neverplayed with you. Now that you see me stating that an obviously ridiculous setup needs changed, I'm an eitist troll? I guess elitest trolls must use their time posting threads helping others learn to snipe and to inform people about how to avoid bugs, etc.

There is no reason one gun should make any person gold-viable and already gold-viable players unstoppable killing machines.

takes two to tango look in a mirror before bashing others

I'm not doing any name-calling.

no but your first line seems harsher than his name calling

It doesn't matter. If you cannot contribute to the thread without resorting to personal attacks, you have no business posting in it.

[Dynamik78]

Dynamik78 wrote...

I don't understand all this fuzz
I never outscored myself using the Krysae
If I play SI with Widow/BW or GI with Claymore/GPS I destroy everything much more
there's really no point in what you want nerf people

Then if you nerf this gun then nerf Energy Drain / Cloak / Hunter Mode because THEY ARE OP
The Krysae has very slow shoots and recharge speed meaning those hot shot Valiant/BW users will still get better scores
BAH ALL THIS NONSENSE RUINS MY DAYS

I challenge any of you to play a game with me using BW and another using Krysae
see where i score the most (TIP:  Headshots give more score )

Autoquote myself and try argue here please

Modifié par Dynamik78, 31 mai 2012 - 03:16 .

[neteng101]

1337haxwtg wrote...

It doesn't matter. If you cannot contribute to the thread without resorting to personal attacks, you have no business posting in it.

Actually it seems like you've ran out of defenses for your lame attempt to try to dictate how others play the game.  I've contributed quite a bit, but you're quickly running out of defenses, so its easier to just ask me to exit the topic.

People don't appreciate your comments because they are unwarranted attacks on how people choose to play the game.  You've already violated others, and you complain about a simple label being put on yourself in return?

Pot, kettle black, much?

[1337haxwtg]

Kel Riever wrote...

Yeah, no. Sorry. Don't care who you are, you haven't played enough with any new stuff to call for nerfing yet. Or know enough about what has been just released.

No, you haven't.  Ego check.

Speed run record was broken in a few hours, as Godless pointed out.

I don't care how other people want to play because they are free to do as they please and I'm all for that. That doesn't change the fact that balancing is an important part of making a game entertaining. It seems that most of the hate for this weapons stems from the desire to be entitled to gold runs. You should have to work to be good. Like I said, this gun made it too easy. I did tis after being awake for over 24 hours. I wasn't even fully focused. It is just THAT easy.

[The Eviscerator]

I only ever play in random parties, and I don't think I've ever played with a truly elite player (Ive never seen a score that high) but I'm capacle of cracking 110k using a Samarkand engineer with a tempest x (granted, I use every equipment slot). I think it depends on who your teammates are. I mean, I broke 135 last night with a kroguard, and I've hardly mastered this character class yet.

[1337haxwtg]

neteng101 wrote...

1337haxwtg wrote...

It doesn't matter. If you cannot contribute to the thread without resorting to personal attacks, you have no business posting in it.

Actually it seems like you've ran out of defenses for your lame attempt to try to dictate how others play the game.  I've contributed quite a bit, but you're quickly running out of defenses, so its easier to just ask me to exit the topic.

People don't appreciate your comments because they are unwarranted attacks on how people choose to play the game.  You've already violated others, and you complain about a simple label being put on yourself in return?

Pot, kettle black, much?

How have I "attacked how people play the game?" I've just pointed out why having an overpowered weapon ruins the game for others.

[soulscore]

1337haxwtg wrote...

soulscore wrote...

1337haxwtg wrote...

soulscore wrote...

1337haxwtg wrote...

neteng101 wrote...

RazRei wrote...

Don't nerf the gun, change it.

Also if you're not an infiltrator it isn't as overly powerful as you think it is. 

No, don't change it.  Its meant for the lesser infiltrators ie. the average player.

Bioware should just ignore the elitist trolls really.

Stop attacking us for differing in opinion or get the hell out of the thread. I'm not an elitest by any stretch of the word. There are players who are better and worse than me. I play to have fun, not to have a high score. I stick with the teams, communicate, revive, and help with objectives.

You know nothing of me because I've neverplayed with you. Now that you see me stating that an obviously ridiculous setup needs changed, I'm an eitist troll? I guess elitest trolls must use their time posting threads helping others learn to snipe and to inform people about how to avoid bugs, etc.

There is no reason one gun should make any person gold-viable and already gold-viable players unstoppable killing machines.

takes two to tango look in a mirror before bashing others

I'm not doing any name-calling.

no but your first line seems harsher than his name calling

It doesn't matter. If you cannot contribute to the thread without resorting to personal attacks, you have no business posting in it.

you don't seem to get it you are not better than other people if you tell them to get the hell out of the thread, and can't take a comment, maybe you should leave .  also ive noticed when things get hard you freak out, calm down dude.

[neteng101]

1337haxwtg wrote...

You should have to work to be good. Like I said, this gun made it too easy. I did tis after being awake for over 24 hours. I wasn't even fully focused. It is just THAT easy.

No it isn't.  How much have you played the game?  How much do you know about builds?  Obviously there's a ton that went into the run being easy, not just the gun.  And you fail to recognize something...  the gun is meant to make things easier...  for the lesser skilled.

And it does exactly that.  It wasn't made designed for people wanting to do solo gold runs...  that's just a consequence that is of little relevance to the average player out there.  You are not an average player obviously, whether you choose to accept that or not.

[neteng101]

1337haxwtg wrote...

How have I "attacked how people play the game?" I've just pointed out why having an overpowered weapon ruins the game for others.

At most, all anyone can say is that this weapon ruins the game for ME.  To say it ruins the game for others is exactly trying to talk like you represent everyone else.  You don't.  Get over it...  you do not have the right to speak for me or others, just yourself.

Like I said, learn to mind your own business, is that so hard to do?  Just have fun and play the game the way you want to, but stop trying to dicate what others do and what should be fun to others.

[Pekkan]

Dynamik78 wrote...

I don't understand all this fuzz
I never outscored myself using the Krysae
If I play SI with Widow/BW or GI with Claymore/GPS I destroy everything much more
theres really no point in what you want nerf people

Do you host? 

Despite the patch coming out on PC just before the DLC, Krysae shoots lots of blanks depending on lag, so they really didn't fix the lag issues for all projectile weapons.

Modifié par Pekkan, 31 mai 2012 - 03:29 .

[Dynamik78]

with a novaguard i once scored 170k by wave 9 when we wiped
img685.imageshack.us/img685/6019/ahauahaaah.png

Then nerf Novaguards too

It is not my best score but I assure you that it's totally possible to score more especially if someone leaves or joins late

[BlackoutOmega]

www.youtube.com/watch 

Seriously, this isn't a PVP game. It's a CO-OP GAME
So what if a gun is overpowered? Start your own lobby and tell everyone in it they're not using the Krysea.
Don't ruin the fun for people who haven't even unlocked it yet.

For christs sake the DLC is out for what, 2 days, and people are already screaming NERF IT NERF IT.

Modifié par BlackoutOmega, 31 mai 2012 - 03:32 .

[Dynamik78]

Pekkan wrote...

Dynamik78 wrote...

I don't understand all this fuzz
I never outscored myself using the Krysae
If I play SI with Widow/BW or GI with Claymore/GPS I destroy everything much more
theres really no point in what you want nerf people

Do you host? 

Despite the patch coming out on PC just before the DLC, Krysae shoots lots of blanks depending on lag, so they really didn't fix the lag issues for all projectile weapons.

never hosted with Krysae until now but with good ping it's almost like I did

[eldrjth]

4x GI with krysae is extremely good against geth. which you prob know since theres a speedrun video of 4 krysaes in FBW with it. but it works just as effectively on firebase giant and is prob the easiest farm spot now if you set up correctly. better than FBW, since theres only really 2 directions units approach from. I want tell you the rest but its far better than the bottom room and you get to shoot at things in the open.

Modifié par eldrjth, 31 mai 2012 - 03:34 .

[StrawHatMoose]

You'll see op if the hurricane ever gets it's recoil reduced. It's a beast waiting to be unleashed. if ony they reduced the recoil.

[soulscore]

Dynamik78 wrote...

with a novaguard i once scored 170k by wave 9 when we wiped
img685.imageshack.us/img685/6019/ahauahaaah.png

Then nerf Novaguards too

It is not my best score but I assure you that it's totally possible to score more especially if someone leaves or joins late

made this post back durring the beta its a good way to balance the game.

http://social.biowar...3/index/9633533

[1337haxwtg]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Maybe part of the reason for strange balance changes like the Proximity Mine buff or the Vindicator nerf is that Bioware has trouble taking feedback from a community that is overrun by ideological factions that say nerf all the things, buff all the things, or change none of the things.

There should just be one faction: Balance all the things. You shouldn't argue about whether everything or nothing should be buffed/nerfed. You should argue about whether a particular suggested change would improve the balance of the game or not. It would be much more productive.

How is Bioware supposed to sort out sensible feedback from this tripe? When you call for buffing everything, you give absolutely zero useful feedback on balancing the game.

Balance changes are going to come. The community might as well have an honest, constructive discussion about what changes would be desirable instead of screaming absurd extremist nonsense at each other and outright villifying each other with baseless libel for no damn reason. Seriously, seeing things like "you only want balance because you're afraid of someone else doing good" or "you want this buffed? You must suck at the game if you want it to be easier" are things that just should not happen. People do not need a sinister ulterior motive to desire balance.

I mean, this @#$% is getting old really fast. I've been around, and out of dozens of gaming forums... single player, co-op, competitive, pen and paper or miniatures games, whatever... and this is the first time I've ever seen a forum that had trouble with the idea "balance is a good thing." Usually the arguments are about whether something is balanced or not, or whether a given change would improve balance or not, not whether balance is something to be desired to begin with. I find it rather baffling that this is even a subject of contention.

Some form of balance matters in a co-op game. Heck, it matters in just about every kind of game. Balance provides all kinds of handy benefits when it comes to the aesthetic experience of a game. It isn't just about fair play and everyone having a comparable chance to succeed, though there's that too. It also does things like create meaningful choices, add depth, promote variety, reward experimentation, facilitate a wider variety of playstyles, add replay value, and more.

[MC_Loki]

I can pull that score using a human engineer and a carnifex...

[nuculerman]

neteng101 wrote...

1337haxwtg wrote...

How have I "attacked how people play the game?" I've just pointed out why having an overpowered weapon ruins the game for others.

At most, all anyone can say is that this weapon ruins the game for ME.  To say it ruins the game for others is exactly trying to talk like you represent everyone else.  You don't.  Get over it...  you do not have the right to speak for me or others, just yourself.

Like I said, learn to mind your own business, is that so hard to do?  Just have fun and play the game the way you want to, but stop trying to dicate what others do and what should be fun to others.

I'm drowning in the irony of this post.  Seriously.  Can't...breathe...