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[fantasypisces]

I don't think keepers are the only mages, there are probably healers in addition. Just because we don't see them, doesn't mean they aren't there. Think of the keeper as fist enchanter, and apprentice keepers as Senior enchanters, it doesn't mean there aren't any other magic users in the Dalish Camp.

[Nokturnal Lex]

fantasypisces wrote...

I don't think keepers are the only mages, there are probably healers in addition. Just because we don't see them, doesn't mean they aren't there. Think of the keeper as fist enchanter, and apprentice keepers as Senior enchanters, it doesn't mean there aren't any other magic users in the Dalish Camp.

Yea that's what I assumed also, hence the Dalish Mage background story would make perfect sense, let's just hope Bioware adds it in the future (Maybe with DLC or Expansion pack, but i'm thinking DLC is kinda replacing expansion packs)

[LynxAQ]

Dalish origin is crap. I would rather play the mage tower even if the dalish one was available. Worst of the 6 origins imo.

[Sloimpreza]

Bioware did mention there were a lot of origin ideas that weren't unique enough at the time to be implemented.



Even the dwarf noble should be restricted to warrior class only. Since berserker is such a deep rooted skill for dwarven warriors, it would seem unlikely the noble class would allow for a warrior to specialize in hiding and deception.



As for a dalish mage origin, I think it would be a great idea. However if they did not implement other spells like more druidic inspired tangle, lots of people would be complaining as well.



The apostate origin is also intriguing. Perhaps he had befriended a fade spirit that had protected him/her and taught magic through dream. The origin could start when the character as a child and choose befriending a demon or a fade spirit. You could always have people around the character hide his powers, I'm sure others have tried before with varying success. Perhaps he/she is a prodigy and learning to control magic through books and texts. Perhaps he works at a book store or a library.

When the character's village or family gets attacked by bandits/darkspawn/etc. was forced to use his/her power in front of an audience. Duncan came by seeing his potential save him from Templar pursuit.

[Nokturnal Lex]

LynxAQ wrote...

Dalish origin is crap. I would rather play the mage tower even if the dalish one was available. Worst of the 6 origins imo.

personally i'd take any origin over having to hear jowan's annoying voice actor speak 1 more line of dialogue

that guy's voice makes me want to kill babies

Modifié par Nokturnal Lex, 15 décembre 2009 - 03:16 .

[Gecon]

Yes Jowan gets really annoying over time.



I love the Dalish origin. Its a bit short, but otherwise you get to be in the wilds and its a fun small dungeon to explore, too.

[originalSabZero]

Dalish mage origin sounds like fun. I'd imagine more druid like as well, focussing on herbalism, summons (of animals) and such.

[Dark83]

A keeper apprentice background has the inherent issue of the player being ignorant while the character is supposed to know all the Dalish lore.

[originalSabZero]

Don't they have any other mages besides the keeper and apprentice? The apprentice position is not as suited, I agree. But even in the dalish origin, it is assumed you know their backstory (help out tell it to the kids).

[Dark83]

The only magic users we see is the keeper and apprentice. I've never attacked the camp with the werewolves though, so someone else may know more (as it would be obvious then). Aside from that, all it would be is baseless conjecture. The healer/nurse/etc. at Ostagar wasn't a mage either.

[Nokturnal Lex]

Dark83 wrote...

The only magic users we see is the keeper and apprentice. I've never attacked the camp with the werewolves though, so someone else may know more (as it would be obvious then). Aside from that, all it would be is baseless conjecture. The healer/nurse/etc. at Ostagar wasn't a mage either.

Sure, the only ones we ever see, but based on DA:O's own Lore, people are born with magic in their blood they don't just study magic and become a mage. So even though we don't see other dalish mages throughout the game who aren't keeper apprentices and keepers themselves, it's assumed there are other dalish mages specially seeing as the one keeper apparentice says she had to compete to become the apprentice.

[bloodynose21]

Any mage origin that was in some way different from the current one, would be a nice addition to the game.

[Dark83]

Nokturnal Lex wrote...

Dark83 wrote...

The only magic users we see is the keeper and apprentice. I've never attacked the camp with the werewolves though, so someone else may know more (as it would be obvious then). Aside from that, all it would be is baseless conjecture. The healer/nurse/etc. at Ostagar wasn't a mage either.

Sure, the only ones we ever see, but based on DA:O's own Lore, people are born with magic in their blood they don't just study magic and become a mage. So even though we don't see other dalish mages throughout the game who aren't keeper apprentices and keepers themselves, it's assumed there are other dalish mages specially seeing as the one keeper apparentice says she had to compete to become the apprentice.

That's true. However, the most definete way to check this would simply be to side with the werewolves and attack the camp, no?

[tetracycloide]

Maria Caliban wrote...

As the developers have said previously, in order to have a Dalish mage origin, they'd have had to work out another system of magic.

This may well be true from a lore prespective but from a gameplay perspective?  The keeper mage(s) you fight in the main story line don't use any unusual spells not found in the repertoire of chantry mages.  What would this mean, exaclty, from the player's perspective other than a different origin story?

[Didius Falco]

I'd definitely like a Dalish mage option, but more to the point, I want the option for a non-Circle mage origin for all the human and elven storylines.



You could even add a dwarven mage - call it Freak of Nature, and give the PC a weakness to magic handicap to start with...

[ashevil2]

i like the idea of being an apostate or dalish keeper apprentice i wish there was like a human commoner or human solder ones too

[ashevil2]

i hate the idea of having no humans in Dao2 replacing them with the qunari

[USArmyParatrooper]

Yes, yes and yes. Additionally I wish there was another option for ALL magi, particularly nice would be to be a maleficar. I am adamantly against the whole idea of the Circle on ethical grounds, but supporting them seems to be the only "good" option.



A couple big changes I would have made to race/class opening stories...



- Other backgrounds for playing a Mage besides being a circle apprentice. What's worse, to me it's the most dull and undesirable story.



- For God's sake *something* different for playing a human besides noble. Your only other option is the one, single option they give you if you play a Mage.



It would be nice if for every choice you made you had two options.

[ussnorway]

Less is more guys, enjoy your freedom while you have it... options in DA2 = human male or female that's it!

[SomniariKess1124]

There is a dalish mage mod. it's wierd though with merrill being keeper, but you're a mage too... lol

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I seem to remember being blasted with various primal spells by Elora when I attacked with the werewolves. I don't think anyone else in the clan did anything of the sort, though. (You know, besides Lanaya and Zathrian.)

[jillabender]

Tancred Of The Chantry wrote...

SomniariKess1124 is right. There is a mod available that allows one to play as a Dalish Mage in the Dalish Origin, but it's not been updated in a long time and I've not tried it personally.

I love that mod! It works best when used together with another mod that ensures that NPCs don't refer to your character as having come from the Circle.

Modifié par jillabender, 29 août 2012 - 02:11 .

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

jillabender wrote...


I love that mod! It works best when used together with another mod that ensures that NPCs don't refer to your character as having come from the Circle.

Shouldn't that be built into the first mod?

[tklivory]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

jillabender wrote...


I love that mod! It works best when used together with another mod that ensures that NPCs don't refer to your character as having come from the Circle.

Shouldn't that be built into the first mod?

They tried but missed some elements, and moved on to other pastures, so someone else picked up the reins. Pretty common, actually.