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#226
Lazy_ Boy

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N7 matchmaking is the best thing ever.
Please do not remove it; I'm tired of having to carry noobs.

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Something is really wrong with the new matching system. Darn it, *stop* putting me into Gold matches with characters when I'm asking for a Bronze match, and stop putting me into the *same match* I'm quitting out of!

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Creighton72 wrote...

I know what you said, I actually agreed, see the whole point about the n7 5, 6, 10, 20 etc. But rather than see this go I would just like to see it refined a little better, that's all. Bioware tried to do something because fans were complaining about matches with bad players, and wanting some kind of skill level system to help get in better lobbies. We all know fans talked about that for a while now. They tried to do it quick it's not perfect, but I hope they refine it rather than dump it.


If they made it optional and improved it, I could see that.

The problem with the way it is now is that there doesn't seem to be a way around it. The system doesn't look and then decide that since there are no lobbies for you to fit into, "you can go into this one instead."

My experience: If there are no lobbies that your N7 level fits into, you wait. And wait. And wait. And if you host a lobby, and there aren't enough people around your N7 level looking for that match type, you wait.

The playerbase just isn't large enough to compensate for splitting the community like this.

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Lazy_ Boy wrote...

N7 matchmaking is the best thing ever.
Please do not remove it; I'm tired of having to carry noobs.


Get friends.

Play private games.

Profit.

Of course, given your attitude, I can see why the first step might be a problem for you.

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Lazy_ Boy wrote...
I'm tired of having to carry noobs.


Then give them to me. I'd rather play a Gold with three N7 1's then spend the entire night waiting for 1015's to find me.

/sign again for Rollback.

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First priority should be the difficulty queued. Then it should attempt to match the requested firebase and enemy, and of course it should try to find the best connection.

Matching n7 is flawed because n7 does not equal skill and can be decieving about amount of time played. N7 rank really only indicates how many times promote has been used.

#232
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I actually really like this. No more crappy N7 sub 100 for me. Been finding lots of mid 1000 all day with mics. Haven't lost a game yet. Waiting a few extra minutes for a decent team is fine.

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n7 rating has no bearing on a player's skill, by the time they've clawed their way out of double digits they should have more than enough experience to run gold with a decent character, this new feature just makes getting a game running a lot slower, hopefully it gets rolled back.

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This is a major issue on PlayStation seeing as if you play for an extensive period of time you tend to get this horrid frame lag that makes the game unplayable and unfortunately the play time is also counted by the time you spend in a lobby (which I have spent the last 30 minutes in with the same 2 people waiting for someone to join my reaper gold game.)

Modifié par ZachNyeScienceGuy, 01 juin 2012 - 02:44 .


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Yeah this little "experiment" is absolutely the worst thing to come since 1.03.

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Bioware,

We wanted minimum levels NOT match making.

I don't mind carrying those not as able as me. What I mind is seeing someone without 16 levels or good level X weapons on a Gold lobby

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Lazy_ Boy wrote...

N7 matchmaking is the best thing ever.
Please do not remove it; I'm tired of having to carry noobs.

I wholeheartedly second this. I finally play with people who are on par with me! Missions get dlone quickly and efficiently:D!

Modifié par xZBx, 01 juin 2012 - 04:07 .


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It also is going to do a fine job of not helping medium or lower players progress. You get better by playing with better players and learning. I often learned alot when playing bronze with people with a much higher N7 score.

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The wait times are much longer on PC & PS3 because according to EA, Xbox has about 6x the sales/players as PC/PS3 .. (Xbox has 74%, PC about 13%, PS3 about 13% of ME3's 4+ million sold)... which means PC & PS3 players have 6x the wait time of Xbox

Thus, you get Xbox players saying it's only a few more mins waiting while PC & PS3 say it's 6-12+ mins & worse if you're high level

Modifié par MartialArtsSurfer, 01 juin 2012 - 02:55 .


#240
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Did solo run on bronze on Firebase goddess with a new character so I could experiment with builds and check the layout of the new map for my first play with the DLC.. Around wave 5 or 6 2 other players joined me .(I am sure it was set to private) . They had very close to the same N7 rating and I felt bad that they were caught up in bronze with me. All in good humour but this new match making means that I will have difficulty organising games playing bronze or silver with my experimental set ups in random games. Now will have to play with friends only to do this.

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xZBx wrote...

Lazy_ Boy wrote...

N7 matchmaking is the best thing ever.
Please do not remove it; I'm tired of having to carry noobs.

I wholeheaterly second this. I finally play with people who are on par with me! Missions get dlone quickly and efficiently:D!


Do you ever play with better players when you started out to learn how to play the higher levels or did you play with people with 50 scores all the time.  I think I'm about 180 but lower ability 180.  Will be much tougher to play with better people and thus learn.

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in case you haven't noticed, the matchmaking system has one enormous advantage.
I haven't seen "I'm so awesome and tired of carrying" thread in 24.

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xZBx wrote...

Lazy_ Boy wrote...

N7 matchmaking is the best thing ever.
Please do not remove it; I'm tired of having to carry noobs.

I wholeheaterly second this. I finally play with people who are on par with me! Missions get dlone quickly and efficiently:D!


Bingo !!!!!!

I actually enjoy the new matchmaking system alot more now.  

In other words:  Does N7 ranking matter???   I don't want it to, but evidence CLEARLY suggests otherwise.

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IF?!  IF?!  ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

This system has simply removed the ability to play for a ton of people.  They cannot play because they cannot find a match or cannot find a match they want to play.  And you're telling us that there's going to be a discussion IF it's rolled back?  Good God.  I can't even wrap my mind around that.  Whoever made this decision should stop being paid in actual money and just get the equivalent in gift certificates to Denny's.  Then the suits can spend a week "discussing" whether to change it back while they try to figure out how to pay their power bill.

There should only be one official response for this.  Immediately changing it back and publicly apologizing for having done something so incredibly daft to begin with.

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shpaiderman wrote...

in case you haven't noticed, the matchmaking system has one enormous advantage.
I haven't seen "I'm so awesome and tired of carrying" thread in 24.


We can deal with those. At least they're amusing.

This IS NOT amusing. Not in the slightest.

#246
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Just make the N7 matchmaking setting optional, just like map, enemy,etc settings

better yet, make a browser where we can choose by ping/connection quality like the other Unreal engine games like Unreal Tournament

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MartialArtsSurfer wrote...

Just make the N7 matchmaking setting optional, just like map, enemy,etc settings

better yet, make a browser where we can choose by ping/connection quality like the other Unreal engine games like Unreal Tournament


Good idea

#248
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xelf207 wrote...

Creighton72 wrote...

I know what you said, I actually agreed, see the whole point about the n7 5, 6, 10, 20 etc. But rather than see this go I would just like to see it refined a little better, that's all. Bioware tried to do something because fans were complaining about matches with bad players, and wanting some kind of skill level system to help get in better lobbies. We all know fans talked about that for a while now. They tried to do it quick it's not perfect, but I hope they refine it rather than dump it.


If they made it optional and improved it, I could see that.

The problem with the way it is now is that there doesn't seem to be a way around it. The system doesn't look and then decide that since there are no lobbies for you to fit into, "you can go into this one instead."

My experience: If there are no lobbies that your N7 level fits into, you wait. And wait. And wait. And if you host a lobby, and there aren't enough people around your N7 level looking for that match type, you wait.

The playerbase just isn't large enough to compensate for splitting the community like this.


This.

#249
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msantos wrote...

xZBx wrote...

Lazy_ Boy wrote...

N7 matchmaking is the best thing ever.
Please do not remove it; I'm tired of having to carry noobs.

I wholeheaterly second this. I finally play with people who are on par with me! Missions get dlone quickly and efficiently:D!


Bingo !!!!!!

I actually enjoy the new matchmaking system alot more now.  

In other words:  Does N7 ranking matter???   I don't want it to, but evidence CLEARLY suggests otherwise.




The N7 rating of a player is a double-edged sword really. This has been discussed extensively here on BSN, so i aint going to go into the details of it again.

#250
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If it stays the same, I won't be playing MP anymore. I don't care about the N7 ratings I get paired with, I care about the fact that it limits how many matches I'm able to join at any given time.

It's funny though, all the high N7 people that like it are saying they don't want to be grouped with lower N7s... but I've actually been having better overall games with the N7~200s that I'm getting grouped with now than I've ever had with high N7s. In fact, whenever I do happen to get a high N7 in the mix now, they're crappy players.

But it just takes way too damned long to find a full group that's not FBWGG. I don't even feel like looking for matches right now. I want to play, but I'm not willing to put up with the crappy match-finding anymore tonight. Probably will play for a bit tomorrow but definitely not as much as usual. I can see my interest in MP petering out already...