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#351
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At least we got an official statement on this thread that they tinkered with the system.
The kind of ideas that get approved in the ME3 team continue to amaze me, though. Who would honestly think that forced rank-filters in matchmaking were a good idea?
EA obviously does have a lot of telemetry about matches played. How about using this data to evaluate an idea like this before rolling it out(without telling your community of course)?

Modifié par count_4, 01 juin 2012 - 11:51 .


#352
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i'm not a fan of the matchmaking. i got the game late and learned a lot from watching the people with more experience play. the ones getting it now wont get that help if they are always paired with low level players

#353
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I honestly didn't notice this before I read this thread but then I made a match last night, and imagine my surprise when I saw this:
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Good to see that it's been acknowledged, though it seems almost like they were hoping we wouldn't notice (?!).
I want to play qith n7 20s and 2500s again. And I have no plans to promote any time soon. Fix this. Now.

#354
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Recently I clicked the "quick match" button with all random and got thrown into FBWGG wave 3 (AV with reegar, LOL). Okay we extracted and I left (everyone was ~400 N7 as I do).
Then I tried that quick match button EIGHT times and everytime I ended up in that FBWGG lobby I just left from.
wtf is this sh*t?

Modifié par sareth_65536, 01 juin 2012 - 12:01 .


#355
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sareth_65536 wrote...

Recently I clicked the "quick match" button with all random and got thrown into FBWGG wave 3 (AV with reegar, LOL). Okay we extracted and I left (everyone was ~400 N7 as I do).
Then I tried that quick match button EIGHT times and everytime I ended up in that FBWGG lobby I just left from.
wtf is that sh*t?

That's been the worst part of this. I had one match yesterday that was just okay; the team didn't work well together, the infiltrator never cloaked or went for objectives--just wasn't a good fit. So after we finish, I leave...and keep getting put back in that lobby. It didn't matter what map or faction I set; I tried half a dozen different variants and kept getting tossed in with those same 3 guys. Not fun.

#356
YoMaNiTz420

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I agree with all the matchmaking haters! Normally I don't complain, but I really liked this game better when all ranks were mixed together. I find that I am waiting in the lobby for several minutes opposed to 30 seconds like it used to be. Then after waiting forever the same people you just played with 10 minutes ago come back. Please fix this!

#357
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Make it stop.
P.S. Worst patch \\ DLC ever, and just when I started to think they actually started working on this game.

#358
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So... this would be why I have always been dominating the ranks in MP recently... normally I am the third/second best in the team, but lately i've just been at the top every single match... My rank has been sitting steady at 240 or so... for the last month or so. I don't promote my characters and just play as the same class over and over again >.> No wonder I haven't succeeded in ANY (gold/silver) mission since earlier this week...

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King Gigglez wrote...

So... this would be why I have always been dominating the ranks in MP recently... normally I am the third/second best in the team, but lately i've just been at the top every single match... My rank has been sitting steady at 240 or so... for the last month or so. I don't promote my characters and just play as the same class over and over again >.> No wonder I haven't succeeded in ANY (gold/silver) mission since earlier this week...


Or maybe you've gotten better. That's also a possibility. N7 means nothing.

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Agreed

Seeeing as N7 Has nothin to represent skill or ability it is reuining the game. at present the game for me is almost unplayable outside of peak times

#361
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Last night I had the most successful pug (PC) gold runs ever. Not a single failure to report in a string of 6 consecutive games which is quite amazing since it does not always happen this way with friends (my friends list is 20-30 long). Lowest ever rocket & consumable use too.

Everyone knew what to do and did it well - not perfect but well. Almost everyone had microphones. Almost everyone said "Thank you" when revived. It was an amazing experience that resembled a private game. I could not believe it !!!

What was unique and striking about it? Well, whether it means anything or not to some, EVERYONE in the lobbies had high N7 ranks (1000+).

So, I would say this to Bioware: Please, PLEASE *DO NOT* bring back the old system as it was!!!!

If you make any changes, make it so that at least lobby leaders have a choice of setting the N7 ranking limits they wish to have in the team.


I do not mind playing silver with anyone regardless of N7 Ranking, but after experiencing what I have of the last few days I DEFINITELY do not want to go back for any gold game playing. And yes, the lobbies take longer to fill-up so please make that better. However, I would rather wait an extra 10-15 minutes that to waste 20-30 in a failed gold match. While not ideal, this math is indisputable to me.

Modifié par msantos, 01 juin 2012 - 12:27 .


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Just thought I'd add my name to this list... I didn't realise this feature was requested pre-patch but as far as I can tell, all it's done is made it 10 times more difficult to find a match, with no discernible change to my chances of winning the match.

#363
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Bioware, I undertand you were trying to limit level 1 N7 rating people from being pair with higher level people in gold but this match making isn't working. One lobby took ten minutes to fill yesterday and when I exit out I get thrown back into lobbies I left in some cases. Also, cloak on my human infiltrator is angering me. I cloak, shotgun an enemy close to an objective then go to re-cloak and capture. The issue is the enemies can all still see me through the cloak so the main power for this class is semi pointless now.

#364
YoMaNiTz420

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If possible they should make matchmaking optional for gold only and that's it. I find playing bronze/silver with newbies to be quite a challenge and plenty of fun. If bronze and silver matches are optional and too many people use it, then it will cut into our fast lobby filling experience and I know I don't want that.  I know for sure waiting for 10+ minutes before every match will kill MP for me.

Modifié par YoMaNiTz420, 01 juin 2012 - 12:42 .


#365
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Agentcormac wrote...

Agreed

Seeeing as N7 Has nothin to represent skill or ability it is reuining the game. at present the game for me is almost unplayable outside of peak times


EXACTLY. This is not a skill matchmaking system. It's a system based on some arbitrary number. I can't get anyone under N7 500 into my games anymore, which is making me have to launch gold runs with duos or trios. Much harder and less fun.

#366
brian_breed

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I think the N7 matchmaking has its uses, and would be a welcome matchmaking parameter, if it were optional - I'd like it more if I could turn it off.

#367
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Waiting for a full lobby for 10 or more minutes isn't fun when you have a time limit. Please implement options....like turning off that horrible auto aim for consoles.

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While I would welcome more matchmaking options in general, I would like to see this change rolled back. It's taking far too long to get a game going when I don't have friends online/available.

I spent nearly an hour, early this morning, trying to either join a R/R/G or get a R/R/G game going. Ended up going with just 2 and hoping for people to join mid game.

#369
KiraTsukasa

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I played the day the DLC came out and I completed one silver match out of a handful of silver AND bronze matches. I left the game full of terrible players to find another one to keep getting thrown into the SAME lobby full of terrible players. When I tried to host, it took 20 minutes to find ONE person, and they left because they didn't want to wait for more.

Basing matchmaking on N7 rank doesn't help anything. To fix matchmaking, you need to base it off country or ping, and usually those go hand in hand.

#370
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Kelaris wrote...

While I would welcome more matchmaking options in general, I would like to see this change rolled back. It's taking far too long to get a game going when I don't have friends online/available.

I spent nearly an hour, early this morning, trying to either join a R/R/G or get a R/R/G game going. Ended up going with just 2 and hoping for people to join mid game.


Seconded.

In general I think that, even if N7 level was a good indicator of skill (it is not), restricting matches to similar N7 ranges limits the chances new players get to learn, especially on bronze.

#371
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Please stop this matchmaking. My N7 level is very high and it takes for ever to gather a team... Sometimes it feels like I'm the only one still playing this game (I know it is not the case).

#372
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No wonder I got dumped into the same lobby twice in a row, and had to wait waaaaay longer than normal to find matchmaking players. 

Yeah, I don't like this.  <_<

#373
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That is simple, I can not play in public game, that is a pitty, because 90% of my game are in public,
Indeed, even if I have a big friends list, they are not availaible at the same time as me, that means I will have to stop playing ME3 MP.

So Bioware please theses changes must be rolled back. Or increase the tolerance of 100 for N7 note.
I heard that there would have N7 Pack in the Store, that is like that you want us to pay for theses Packs to have N7 note ?
That is just amazing, I am disapointed and now I am disgusted.

#374
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I've been joining and re-joining Angel-Lightning's game for more than 20 minutes now. No one else was joining. I have been trying to join a public silver game and keep getting sent back to the same lobby. We sit and wait and nothing happens.

#375
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I am not a fan of the new system either. I was in a lobby (around 530 or so) that wasn't moving. I got out of it, looked for a new game, and ended up in the same lobby. This happened three times. After the third time, I decided to play something else.