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[Ogrinash]

+1 to "carrying" or helping new dudes. I found it fun.

[Lynx7725]

Gah I just had a nasty thought.

If high N7 level folks simply started to equip with the expectation that any quick game would be Silver or Gold, then for a short while things will be good. Sort of.

But eventually, the equipment would run down and require replenishment. Which means the high N7 folks will have to farm to get probably JEPs, and a good number of them. If the player is careless, he'll run out of equipment before he replenishes.

Which means he's stuck in a situation where he needs to play games to get credits to replenish his equipment, but he can't play the Silver/ Gold games that the system allocates to him because he doesn't have the equipment -- Catch-22.

Not good. It'll just frustrate gamers.

The other thing is again, it's a disincentive to promote. If a high N7 player is consistently pushed into Silver and Gold games, then any new characters of low level will just get hammered in games. It again leads to frustrated gamers, and disincentivize increasing your N7 rating. Instead of it being a "reward" for following the system, the N7 rating becomes a problem for the player.

Bioware: Look, I can appreciate why the matchmaking system was changed. But it's generating waaaay too many unintended behaviours. It should be rolled back, as soon as possible.

[Fisterbear]

Dresden867 wrote...

The thing that's driving me nuts right now is: I have been getting matched into -the same- group of angry guys shouting in Russian for about 15 minutes now, into their same lobby.

I am giving up and going to go do something else at this stage, but -argh-.

I had someone leave the lobby I was in, then join the game later when it was in progress.

3 times.

They could join the game in progress because the lobby would never fill.

I hope this gets fixed rikki tik.

Modifié par Fisterbear, 01 juin 2012 - 07:49 .

[A Wild Snorlax]

This is pretty ridiculous. Much harder to find and host games now, and when I do find players they're all within 10-20 ranks of me. Stupid!

Fix this asap please. not enough people playing this game to have this type of matchmaking.

Besides, a bigger spread of N7 ranks is fun. You never know what that N7 <120 is going to do

Modifié par A Wild Snorlax, 01 juin 2012 - 08:01 .

[Jriles123]

Really?  I thought it was tied to the patch.  Huh.[/quote]

PS3 and Xbox recieved the patch as well...

[gethinych]

Traim Eisenblut wrote...

Cid Revolution wrote...

Traim Eisenblut wrote...
They are still discussing. I bet the one who suggested that change now claims artistic integrity for it and Dr. Ray Muzyka will write us a letter where he says they can't rollback but will clarify the new system...

I sincerely doubt that will happen now that there's been such a devastating outcry from the community. If in the remote chance they do nothing at all but try to sell the new system, they'll lose many players. I don't think Bioware wants that to happen.

You sure where not on these forums in the release week of the game . I just made a sarcastic reference to what happened back than . And trust me, the outcry about the games ending was much bigger than this .

True!  It will probably be much much easier to fix this bogus matching system than that clusterflapdoodle of an ending, though.  At least I hope so.  If we need another patch, and PS3 folk need to wait on Sony...  Well, MP could be dead by then.

[gethinych]

Oops, double post.  I waited ages for it to appear, too.  Don't like the new post-matching system...

ROLLBACK!

Modifié par gethinych, 01 juin 2012 - 08:07 .

[MinatheBrat]

Is that what is going on with this? I thought I'd broke the game or something! This really stinks!

Tried to find a random gold match last night with a friend who has an N7 of 1400+ and mine is in the 500's and we waited like 10 minutes and nothing.
Then we tried FBWGG just to see if we could get a game thinking it was because of the random setting....and nothing.
We switched from me leading the lobby to him leading the lobby to see if maybe it was something on my end.... Nothing. Switched it to silver..... Nothing.

Finally just started playing silver with just us and the game eventually dumped some people in mid-game.
This system stinks!

Modifié par MinatheBrat, 01 juin 2012 - 08:10 .

[vware]

Ogrinash wrote...

+1 to "carrying" or helping new dudes. I found it fun.

Jep.

[UKillMeLongTime]

this is pathetc can't get anyone to play with because of this change

waited 20 minutes..............ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

ROLL IT BACK NAO

[Princess Rolf]

Yepp. Reverse this change BW.

[SVG223]

base it on latency.

[JimmyJr]

another one for rollback.

overall i just had more fun before.

[Quething]

Let's all not forget the ping issue. My N7 is in the 400s so my lobby wait is only ("only" <_<) 15-20 minutes, but I'm still finding the game completely and utterly unplayable 60% of the time because the lag is so incredibly bad. I would rather carry a dozen N7 1s within a hundred miles through Silver than try to play with the leetest Gold team in the world who're all on the other damn side of the planet because those are the only people in my range awake during my (off-hour) gaming time. This game is a whole hell of a lot more fun when you can actually *hit things.*

[AwesomeBabyLion]

SolidBeast wrote...

I honestly didn't notice this before I read this thread but then I made a match last night, and imagine my surprise when I saw this:

*Image removed*

Good to see that it's been acknowledged, though it seems almost like they were hoping we wouldn't notice (?!).
I want to play qith n7 20s and 2500s again. And I have no plans to promote any time soon. Fix this. Now.

I'm sorry, but are you saying that as a N7 120 rank, you don't want to play with other N7 120~ rank players, but rather play with N7 2500~ rank players? That's a bit hypocritical don't you think? Do you think the 2500~ rank players want to play with a 120 rank player?

Do some soul searching dude, that was an exceptionally lame argument to fix this matchmaking system.

That said, I agree with all other statements. Bring back the old system as soon as it's doable.

[Creakazoid]

Quething wrote...

Let's all not forget the ping issue. My N7 is in the 400s so my lobby wait is only ("only" <_<) 15-20 minutes, but I'm still finding the game completely and utterly unplayable 60% of the time because the lag is so incredibly bad. I would rather carry a dozen N7 1s within a hundred miles through Silver than try to play with the leetest Gold team in the world who're all on the other damn side of the planet because those are the only people in my range awake during my (off-hour) gaming time. This game is a whole hell of a lot more fun when you can actually *hit things.*

THANK YOU! I've been saying that same thing over and over. The primary determinant in game quality for ANY multiplayer game is the LAG. Rather than matchmake based on ping and geography, they decide to implement some arbitrary system based on their arbitrary "N7" rating.

I say the only change to matchmaking they should make from vanilla is to stop dropping you into games you just left. Maybe if I just left a game three times in a row, it might mean I DON'T want to play in it. Then add a ping meter for crying out loud. Let us decide the "match making" for ourselves if you don't want to match us based on ping.

[Habi33]

So if they don't roll it back today, does that mean we're going to have to put up with these horrible lobbies at least through the entire weekend then?

[AwesomeBabyLion]

Habi33 wrote...

So if they don't roll it back today, does that mean we're going to have to put up with these horrible lobbies at least through the entire weekend then?

This kind of stuff can take a lot of time. They can't just "roll-back" one thing, they will have to redo it. If you see it being done anytime this week, consider yourself exceptionally lucky.

[xX 7heGuy Xx]

Jade Elf wrote...

sw04ca wrote...

What does it matter? As soon as you get into a game you'll just lose your connection to the EA servers anyways.

Heh, tell me about it... <_<

And me : /

[DatFeel]

Can you imagine the thought process of Bioware when they decided to Implement this?

"Well our players are already having a hard time connecting to games, not getting disconnected from games, and creating games SO LETS MAKE IT EVEN HARDER TO START A GAME BY ADDING A STUPID ARBITRARY MATCHMAKING SYSTEM"

[AlexFili]

Forget "hell of a lot longer to fill up". My games are not getting filled up AT ALL.
Good work with fixing the bugs, but you have to roll back this N7 ranked matchmaking before it kills the online community of this game.

[Adhok42]

titusthelegendaryfox wrote...

I'm sorry, but are you saying that as a N7 120 rank, you don't want to play with other N7 120~ rank players, but rather play with N7 2500~ rank players? That's a bit hypocritical don't you think? Do you think the 2500~ rank players want to play with a 120 rank player?

...Yes.

Yes I would.

I would totally play with N7 120.

/sign for Rollback

[YoMaNiTz420]

Adhok42 wrote...

titusthelegendaryfox wrote...

I'm sorry, but are you saying that as a N7 120 rank, you don't want to play with other N7 120~ rank players, but rather play with N7 2500~ rank players? That's a bit hypocritical don't you think? Do you think the 2500~ rank players want to play with a 120 rank player?

...Yes.

Yes I would.

I would totally play with N7 120.

/sign for Rollback

Me too.  I'm at 600 and I would play with N7 1 and N7 50,000
/signed!

[khankar]

i only managed to play a few games today. most of the time i was sitting in the lobby waiting for people to join. very frustrating. bioware please undo your latest mess - including the reduction of time between waves. i barely have enough time to re-arm.

[spirosz]

Wait, weren't people just ****ing when they were paired up with N7 levels of 120 and lower, back before this new system...

If this system didn't cause the longer wait/disconnects... would people still be whining?

I understand N7 doesn't mean jack, but usually if you're a higher level, you probably should have good weapons/setup.