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[AaronEh]

Yes, please rollback this feature.

[Creighton72]

Bolo Xia wrote...

kadzier wrote...

I've noticed this new system since last night.  Throwing in my two cents, it is horrible.  Roll it back, please, and don't try again until you've come up with an algorithm that makes sense (and preferably has nothing to do with N7 ranking, which is almost meaningless when it comes to an evaluation of player skill).   

Personally I think the smartest route would be a system based on # of successful extractions on each difficulty, or even better, how many times you've passed the wave 3/6/10 barrier on each difficulty.  Obviously a player who has dozens of extractions on gold is much likelier to be better than one who only has extracted on bronze, N7 rating irrelevant. 

so the people that get disconnected due to bugs and crappy servers should be punished?
i dont get disconnected because i host mostly.

it needs to be a ping range or something, otherwise their will be a lot of people in certain brackets that cant play the game.

my N7 is over 3000 so should i not be able to play because the majority is in the 200 to 700 range?

basically right now me and my friend cant host a game because our retarded N7 number is too high.... we can host but nobody joins.
its fair right?

we host so we can play together without problems of getting lucky to find a lobby with room or get lucky and the 2nd person beats a random into the game, just so we can play together.

You basically are saying that you and your friend are more important than the majority? I don't think you should be punished, but how many guys were saying they are tired of seeing bad players in gold? Do you want this system gone or refined? Do want like N7 1000 or better to be one group? 800 or better, 700 or better etc... Instead of this complaining thread maybe someone should put down a ideas thread about this topic. Bioware clearly reads this stuff, start spit balling on a new thread. Why be negative when you can be proactive.

I like a match making system but I would like to see it refined.

[kadzier]

Adhok42 wrote...

kadzier wrote...

not saying my idea is perfect.  But ANY idea is better than what they have now.  Actually, the BEST thing to do would to be base it off of total XP, since it is directly correlated with both skill and time played.  Of course, XP doesn't accumulate after level 20, but they can change that or keep track of it internally or something.

Won't work. You can buy packs with real money and the character cards drop class XP. XP like N7 is not a result of time and skill.

fair enough then. 

But at least we're agreed that something has to be better than what they have now. 

[Pitznik]

Just adding one more vote for rolling back this change. I don't mind having N740, or N710101, they can be equally good or bad as other levels. I just want to have poeple to play with, and that suddenly became hard. I think majority of games I played tonight and yesterday were 3 people (or even 2 :/)

[Orange Sanguine]

started playing with a friend today, he's 400+, i'm 1200+. guess what, the first guy who gets dropped in after 10 minutes of waiting is 2 ranks from our average, 800+. Every other guy who got dropped in after that (we eventually then started a game with just the 3 of us, hoping we'd get another player dropped in, which didn't happen till right after the match when we came back to the lobby) was around 800.

on a later game with other 1200+ friends we had to do a gold with just the three of us after waiting for 10 minutes for someone to join.

Please Bioware, in the name of everything that is good in this game, revert this stupid system. it's idiotic and destroys the userbase. a few more days of this and no one with a higher rank will play this game anymore. unless this is your intention you need to listen to us.

[Raziel-Freya]

Nope, a few days and no one is going to play this anymore thinking there's no userbase because keep getting in lobbys of two peoplle D:

[Pressedcat]

I'm also not really a fan of this new match making system.

I play exclusively with randoms, have been playing since release, and have only ever promoted three times. It now takes me longer to find matches, particularly on gold, and when I do find a match, it is populated by people of around rank 200 or less. Obviously a fairly low rank is not a definitive indicator of skill or experience and some of the players in these matches are very good, but quite often they do turn out to have little experience and low level weapons. I'm a good enough player to hold my own in a decent team, but no where near good enough to carry a weak team. Since the patch I have therefore had far more failed matches in gold, and these games have been harder to find.

[Lord Thornos]

roll it back

[vanya1990]

Roll it back please! When I try to play with my friend (I have little more than 1000 N7, and he have near 1000) - It takes forever to find some one (around 30 minutes of waiting)! We can't using quick match, becouse how much we try, group is allways full before I or hi can join through friends list. We just can't play at all!

[Arhenok]

Yes! The same thing. Roll it back!

[Erendar88]

Please, roll it stupid new match making system back!

[Poulpor]

how long to realize that it is impossible to play now ? He will wait until everyone is gone ? It's been 30 minutes that I'm in my lobby, i'm level 1473, there is one who came in 1479, waited 5 minutes then go ! Then a 1463, same !

Whether to wait for someone the same level as ours N7, we can wait long!

[Melgrimm]

Matching by N7 ranking is a horrible idea. The amount of time people have happened to restart their characters is not a strong indication of their ability. I have promoted just a handful of times so my N7 rating has no reflection of my skill or the time I've put into the game. It doesn't make any sense to base a rank system on how many times someone has wanted to restart.

They record the amount of points we earn in the matches (not that points are necessarily a good indicator, either) so why not have a ranking system based on those? I'd honeslty rather not see matching via a ranking system, however: some players are bad, sure, but its just a game. If everyone is at the same level all the time where are the nuances or difficulties? Matching is only good for allowing skilled players to farm.

Modifié par Melgrimm, 02 juin 2012 - 01:35 .

[Credit2team]

If BW wants n7 to actually mean something add a 1% credit bonus for every 100 n7 you get

[Coela]

I vote for a rollback.

[Hiero Glyph]

thewalrusx wrote...

If BW wants n7 to actually mean something add a 1% credit bonus for every 100 n7 you get

N7 still wouldn't mean anything though, some players would just earn more credits than others.

[Manton-X2]

Wow ... who thought this was a good idea and what team didn't think this through? I just started building my soldier up after promotion ... sat in a Bronze room with one other guy (Level 9/N7 389) and myself (Level 4/N7 332). We sat there for 10 minutes without a single person dropping in. I quit, re-matched and got dropped into a Silver match that had 1 guy playing in it and he was on Round 7. By Round 10 there were finally 4 of us. What?

[Knight3000]

The whole game is ****ed up... they brought out a patch that did nothing, servers constantly screwed, no communication from any1. its like they are intentionally ****ing up the game so that we will give up and not have to bother with it.

that said, they bring out dlc that we cant play becuz its all ****ed up!



i waited for an hour in a created lobby (N7 1972), with only having 1 person (N7 1948) drop in for like 60 sec.

and to add to it now only 2day for some bloody reason i am being kicked every match on round 10 whether im there at the start or i enter mid match

[scheherazade]

Roll Back please.

Me and my GF only play Random/Random/Gold.

Neither of us like promoting, so we're in the 200's N7.

We went from being 'average' skill teammates, to having to do most the work.

The typical N7 200 player is barely started off... whereas we've been at end-game for a while...

Match making should be based on "total time played @ the given difficulty setting" or "gear level".
N7 just isn't a good measure...

Games like this were never happening before, and it should not be happening :


It's fun to get a big score time to time, but it's a friggin' chore to do it all the time.

And it's a lot more expensive.
I went form using 2-5 rockets + 1-2 omnigel + 1-2 ops survivals per map...
to using 5 rockets + 5 omnigel + 3-5 ops survivals per map.

It used to be enough to just do non-farming gold, and on average you'd have 2-3 good players per match.
With match making, I just sit and wait for people to join, and when they finally join most of their gear is in the single digits and they have goofy setups - like they're just getting their feet wet.

You know the high N7's that are complaining about long wait times? ... well the low N7's are in the same situation.
We used to PUG together and have a lot of good matches.
Now it's all fractured, and people are waiting for no reason.
Seasoned low N7's are waiting, and seasoned high N7's are waiting, when we could be playing together.

-scheherazade

Modifié par scheherazade, 02 juin 2012 - 06:32 .

[hotpocketgimme]

my gripes:

1 if everyone hosts, then this is no longer multiplayer.
2 if you do no host but rather pug, YOU CANNOT ESCAPE A HOST WITH BAD PING. You leave the host, rejoin, and presto, back to the same laggy host, as the only people within 5 points of your n7 is that freaking laggy host and the other 2 dudes unlucky enough to be within 5 points of him/her.

add those 2 up, and pugging is 100% dead.

The one and only criteria that should be used for matchmaking, is PING and PING ALONE.

Modifié par hotpocketgimme, 02 juin 2012 - 02:47 .

[Liefglinde]

I'm begging for this to be rolled back. I'm rank 2090. Know what that means? I can't Find a game or get people to join me at all. I have one friend that I play with. He's rank 500. When we're both in a lobby the game tries to find the average of our ranks to put in. We've had about 4 rank 1250 join us in the span of like 6 hours. My point is I can't even play now.

[SparkeeLecaro]

Wait, this is why it took ten minutes for me to get one person in my game? What the hell were they thinking?

[Quackjack]

Well Chris Priestly messaged me back and said they are investigating this. I thought this was a team effort? Whatever, as long as they can fix this i'll play.

[jaydee114]

SparkeeLecaro wrote...

Wait, this is why it took ten minutes for me to get one person in my game? What the hell were they thinking?

going on about a half hour now... all FBWG. left and got dropped in the same FBWG match 3x. tried to start my own PUG game.. another half hour.. no one. this "new feature" stinks

[jaydee114]

Quackjack wrote...

Well Chris Priestly messaged me back and said they are investigating this. I thought this was a team effort? Whatever, as long as they can fix this i'll play.

all they needed to investigate were the responses on this thread. can't have a team effort when you can't even find teammates anymore.