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[1337haxwtg]

Elijini wrote...

Honestly Americans crying about this is laughable.

Try the other side of the pond, the game now pairs me with similar N7 levels > local host, so more often than not I get paired up with some awful American host (awful for my gameplay experience at least) because we have similar levels, rather than you know, other Australians.

Good system Bioware -.-

Us night-owl Americans already had issues with ping in the early hours of the morning. I very much enjoy playing with Australians and the like, but the lag gets annoying.

Now, since my N7 is just under 2k, I find it nearly impossible to fill a gold lobby at night. I have ping and N7 working against me. So my complaining is far from laughable.

[Elijini]

Still. You arent being paired with the opposite side of the world during your region's peak times.

Because Im not talking about me olaying at odd hours and getting nothing, Im talking about playing at normal AU hours and getting American hosts =(


Then again, EA treating Aus like a backwater not worth their time isnt exactly news. I dont play a lot of EA games I love because maintaining a connections to them as an Australian is a joke (Dead Space, NFS, etc)

Modifié par Elijini, 02 juin 2012 - 11:09 .

[Rifneno]

Elijini wrote...

Still. You arent being paired with the opposite side of the world during your region's peak times.

Because Im not talking about me olaying at odd hours and getting nothing, Im talking about playing at normal AU hours and getting American hosts =(

It's hilarious how you write off a change that's crippling the game for 99% of the community and expect sympathy because you have some lag while at the same time dismissing Americans in the same situation whose real life schedule has them playing at odd hours.

I hope you never get a ping below 4 digits.

[Elijini]

I'll rephrase my comment, Its laughable Americans complaining that they're level x and dont want to play with other level x's, because they arent good enough etc.

People who have N7 rankings in the thousands, is a different story.

PS. using the typical 5 bar system, Aus usually gets 1-2 bars to most EA products, 3 is a great day.

[lord_deacis]

Lets look at this from another viewpoint. The appeal of promoting characters narrows down to:
- Resetting a skillbar without having a respec card left
- Meeting the Squad Goal / Contributing to the Community Goal if applicable
- Showing to the world, how much time you have invested in stupid grinding (not neccessarily how well you play or how valuable you are as an asset to your team)

So what's the point here? To find and stay in a public gold game with a character level below 15 is not an easy task and completely reasonable if the team wants to beat wave 10. So you have to play a lot of boring silver games with that character ... with less challenge and less reward. Yeah, sure ... promoting is soooo cool - as it is getting punished for NOT doing it with this damn patch.

[Ogrinash]

Lag is actually worst for me with this as there's not that many people with a relatively high N7 rating where I'm from.

[Poulpor]

The game i join yesterday was so laggy.. you change the parametre of the connexion ?

I had never been as bad parts before..

[TweedleDee66]

Is this why I keep getting dropped into more matches already in progress now instead of getting into a lobby?

Of course one of those matches I got dropped into was on a difficulty level that I was not looking for.

Why do something like this when the N7 rating means Jack and s***… and Jack left town weeks ago.

If BioWare is going to try and mess up the game at least do something smart and let us level up and promote individual characters in a class instead of leveling up and promoting the entire class. Or better yet, fix the stupid character card system where everyone gets for characters that they have everything unlocked for and leveled up to level 20.

[Koenig888]

I'm just under N7 800 and finding it next to impossible to find a Silver game. If this goes on, I will have to go back to Gold or Hello Kitty Island Adventure.

[D.Shepard]

Koenig888 wrote...

I'm just under N7 800 and finding it next to impossible to find a Silver game. If this goes on, I will have to go back to Gold or Hello Kitty Island Adventure.

I'm N7 570 (no a huge fan of promoting) and today  I was even unable to play a Gold match...So playing Gold instead of Silver won't make things easier.

[stjabr]

I've noticed the same, but I actually think it makes some sense to group people of similar rank sometimes. A broader range of ranks (even +-100 or more) would definitely be a lot better though.

Either that or possibly give the player the option to set their own settings on things like n7 rank restrictions or class restrictions, similar to selecting locations/enemy now. That way the user can control how broad or specific their matchmaking is, loosening requirements if they're not finding any matches.

[TweedleDee66]

Koenig888 wrote...

I'm just under N7 800 and finding it next to impossible to find a Silver game. If this goes on, I will have to go back to Gold or Hello Kitty Island Adventure.

You can have the ones I’m getting into while looking for a bronze match. I just got out of a silver (finished it) one after posting my post above.

I have a feeling more people are getting chucked into a difficulty level that they don’t want to be in. The match a got chucked into only had a single other player and it was just the 2 of us for about a wave or 2. The other 2 showed up about the same time and one died almost immediately. Even with all that I still got the most points and I don’t do silver that often, usually when I get chucked into them and that’s it.

[PlatonicWaffles]

Signed. It literally took about 11 minutes to get a full Silver match hosted by me.

Koenig888 wrote...

I'm just under N7 800 and finding it next to impossible to find a Silver game. If this goes on, I will have to go back to Gold or Hello Kitty Island Adventure.

Given how BioWare are treating multiplayer at the moment, you're going to be saying hi to Butters again real soon.

[Halmine]

I've noticed that too. My N7 level is about 850 and all my team mates are around 800. The lowest ranking team mate I've had in a long time was around 500. I do understand the point of doing that on Gold because I don't want team mates on gold who are going to be dead-weight but on silver or bronze it doesn't make any sense to wait for 10 minutes to get the lobby full.

[MGakaMoogie]

Well for me and my friends on the pc the matchmakings borken, we wait for 10 minutes on gold and got a N7 level 1, N7 level 17 and N7 level 20 for a gold match my one friend is 220+, then me and another are 1200+...eventually we gave up and let some level 20 play and that match was pretty fail v.v

[normandy1]

is that why it takes me so long to host a game orto find one. i was starting to think people were stoped. playing

[JC_aka_fps_john]

I just do not understand how BioWare thought this system was a good idea... N7 ranking doesn't necessarily have any bearing on how good somebody is, all it tells you is how much they like to promote. Hence the only consequence of this system is that it takes everybody longer to find games. When people can't find games they get annoyed / bored and stop playing.

"I don't care that your N7 rank is lower/higher than mine, I only care that you can do the job"

[xcaliz0rz]

Your game doesn't have the population to support a system like this.

[Fawar]

Please stop considering a fix and just fix it. This matchmaking system is terrible, can't even get a game anymore.

[AsheraII]

Edalborez wrote...

I'm not seeing it. I'm getting plenty of matches with people in the 100s, 200,s double digits, 1000s and so on while being N7 689. The matchmaking seems a little slower, though.

You're probably entering a game with, for example, a 100 and a 1300 already present, and those two would most probably be friends playing together through one inviting the other.

The matchmaking also may "stretch out" over time, while seeking more players: in the 100 + 1300 example, the avarage of those two would be 700. So it starts matching players in the 680-720 range. After a minute, it increases the range to 670-730. After another minute, it gets stretched again to 660-740. But over all, it takes too long for this search to scale up, and not only that: players will constantly get pulled into other games as well! There's this lobby for 680-720, but right next to it there could be another lobby looking for players in the 650-690 range. What happens to a player in the 680-690 range then? One lobby might be happy, the other won't. But, there may also be a 620 player around who could fill a spot, but unable to even find a lobby because of the system.

In addition, I don't think it's a good idea to seperate the new players (N 1 - N 40) from the experienced ones. Yes, some experienced players act like jerks and initiate a votekick as soon as they see a player below 20 in a lobby, or make the game too easy (but that can be circumvented by being invited by a high ranked friend anyway), but the inexperienced players also won't learn things like tricks or tactics from the more experienced players, resulting in things like Asari Adepts carrying a shotgun and a sniper but no clue about their biotics. They won't run into an AA that could give a good example of carrying only a pistol and chaining explosions for weeks, and by the time they do, they'll probably accuse that more experienced AA of hacks, simply from their own inexperience.

If they REALLY want some matchmaking system, I'd rather suggest matching people like:  lowest level in the lobby minus 100 upto highest level plus 100. For someone starting a completely empty lobby, make it lobby owners' level plus or minus 200 even. The difference in experience between a rating 500 and rating 700 isn't that big. Actually, anyone above a rating of 20 will have found the proper keys to play this game already, and just needs to finetune his or her playstyle. People will improve overtime, but after that initial "learning the ropes", it doesn't improve that much anymore, it'll simply depend on the player. I've seen rank 200 players perform better than rank 1000 players for example. So it doesn't mean a thing anymore other than show your personal progress.

Modifié par AsheraII, 02 juin 2012 - 02:21 .

[Quackjack]

How long do you thing this will take to fix?

[palker]

my bets experience with new matchmaking was staring at Searching for games screen for 5 minutes only to get Connection to your game has been lost message at the end. FAIL system.

[RydeCrash]

I attempted to get a few Bronze games in before I had to work. I am 900+ from Promoting for the Single Play Experience. I could only enter one room the player was 900+ as well.

He was asleep. He had his Mic on and snoring, it must have been a Blue Tooth and not in his ear.

It was the only room I was able to enter in five (5) Quick Match Bronze selections.

Ryde…

[kadzier]

AsheraII wrote...

Edalborez wrote...

I'm not seeing it. I'm getting plenty of matches with people in the 100s, 200,s double digits, 1000s and so on while being N7 689. The matchmaking seems a little slower, though.

You're probably entering a game with, for example, a 100 and a 1300 already present, and those two would most probably be friends playing together through one inviting the other.

The matchmaking also may "stretch out" over time, while seeking more players: in the 100 + 1300 example, the avarage of those two would be 700. So it starts matching players in the 680-720 range. After a minute, it increases the range to 670-730. After another minute, it gets stretched again to 660-740. But over all, it takes too long for this search to scale up, and not only that: players will constantly get pulled into other games as well! There's this lobby for 680-720, but right next to it there could be another lobby looking for players in the 650-690 range. What happens to a player in the 680-690 range then? One lobby might be happy, the other won't. But, there may also be a 620 player around who could fill a spot, but unable to even find a lobby because of the system.

In addition, I don't think it's a good idea to seperate the new players (N 1 - N 40) from the experienced ones. Yes, some experienced players act like jerks and initiate a votekick as soon as they see a player below 20 in a lobby, or make the game too easy (but that can be circumvented by being invited by a high ranked friend anyway), but the inexperienced players also won't learn things like tricks or tactics from the more experienced players, resulting in things like Asari Adepts carrying a shotgun and a sniper but no clue about their biotics. They won't run into an AA that could give a good example of carrying only a pistol and chaining explosions for weeks, and by the time they do, they'll probably accuse that more experienced AA of hacks, simply from their own inexperience.

If they REALLY want some matchmaking system, I'd rather suggest matching people like:  lowest level in the lobby minus 100 upto highest level plus 100. For someone starting a completely empty lobby, make it lobby owners' level plus or minus 200 even. The difference in experience between a rating 500 and rating 700 isn't that big. Actually, anyone above a rating of 20 will have found the proper keys to play this game already, and just needs to finetune his or her playstyle. People will improve overtime, but after that initial "learning the ropes", it doesn't improve that much anymore, it'll simply depend on the player. I've seen rank 200 players perform better than rank 1000 players for example. So it doesn't mean a thing anymore other than show your personal progress.

amen, brah

[Bigjosh951]

I have never been tossed into the middle or end of games like i have the past few weeks. It is getting ridiculous. I do not want to join a match on wave 10 with the whole team wiped. I do not want to spawn and get grabbed by a phantom from across the map and instakilled before the game even loads up on my screen. I do not want to join a bronze game when I am searching for gold or vice versa. Wtf did they do to the matchmaking?