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[Quackjack]

I can confirm this on PS3. Bioware please, if you keep this MP will be dead in a week.

[Chromatix]

I've friended 2 people because i got into 3 games with them in a row. (Separately)

[Quackjack]

/shameless bump

[Kuro_Fenikkusu]

Wow. I never thought that they'd slip in a matchmaking system with no notice. I was wondering why my games were taking much longer than usual to fill. I thought people had finally gotten bored.

[Delta095]

I see it as well-deserved punishment to all the whiny little elitist babies who wouldn't stop complaining that they kept getting paired with low N7 levels on gold because they MIGHT suck and aren't experienced enough to play gold.

Of course, I hate it, but still. Alot of people here deserve it.

[Taritu]

I'm at 300 and I'm having a hell of a time finding groups. Worse, it keeps throwing me back into the same lobby, over and over again. No, if I left the lobby it's because I don't want to play with those people or those mission settings. This NEVER happened before the patch. Never.

[MoeRayShep]

My guess is that when it isn't specifically matchmaking by looking for the same N7 level, it's trying to reach a "team average" N7 level.
Here are 3 consecutive lobbies I was in:




The first and third lobbies paired by similar N7 rank, while the second seemed to space each rank 400 apart so that my rank was roughly the average.

EDIT: It could also be that lobbies with a low N7 aggregate rating are prioritized for matchmaking, which might be why some of the higher N7's are taking forever to form. Sort of as if you were being nudged to go in with less than a full team.
Regardless N7 is an arbitrary measure because of optional promotion; if there were to be a skill-based matchmaking process based on more detailed statistics related to weapon accuracy, damage output, objective completion, % of matches won, total matches won, team revives, etc. I wouldn't mind as much-- but latency should be the first and foremost basis for matchmaking.

Modifié par MoeRayShep, 31 mai 2012 - 09:42 .

[Zero132132]

This morning, I thought it was probably bull****, since people complain all the time here, but I've definitely noticed it now. My N7 level is a bit over 900, so there's a fair population of people with comparable N7 rankings, but matches are still taking a long damned time to fill today. It seems like randoms are more likely to join up if the match is already under way, which is alright enough, since soloing wave 1 on bronze/silver isn't a huge deal, but on gold, I don't think I could pull that **** off.

This is definitely gonna kill a multiplayer mode that's already struggling. Maybe that's the goal.

[Ankarah]

Edalborez wrote...

I'm not seeing it. I'm getting plenty of matches with people in the 100s, 200,s double digits, 1000s and so on while being N7 689. The matchmaking seems a little slower, though.

that strangely makes your rating of 600ish right about the average between 1000's and 200s, don't you think?

[LeandroBraz]

SolidBeast wrote...

I haven't noticed this at all. N7 120 here, been getting into matches fairly quickly and with people of different N7 ratings, from as low as 4 to the 1000s.

 The quick match work sometimes, the biggest problem is if you try to create a lobby, nobody will join, if they do, they will have a level close to yours. It's a real problem for high levels, since people with high level are far more rare...

[Vhira]

While hosting, my brother and I cannot get a lobby to fill for gold. We're N7 810 and 1100. After 2-man gold runs, we switched to silver, and finally got a third. It took 4 matches of gameplay to finally get a 4th. Both randoms that joined had N7 ~930.

We're capable of 2 man gold, but it's not pleasant if something goes wrong. It shouldn't take this long (10 min+) just to get any two other people in my lobby while hosting. We don't care who joins, we'll take anyone.  I don't like having this matchmaking setting forced on us.

Modifié par Vhira, 31 mai 2012 - 09:47 .

[Lucius Aelius]

I have to add for me it's not universal, every now and then I get thrown in with a lobby of all higher/lower N7's than myself (only happened when using quick search), but 95-99% of my games now I'm getting all these similar N7's, sometimes by way of average, sometimes all of us within 50 points of one another.

That's not population loss, that's a change in the search system, undeniably for the worse. The idea of skilled and unskilled being paired together with those at a similar level, N7 does not represent anything worth basing a search upon and in no way achieves any of the things I would imagine they were going for.

Get rid of the changes, Bioware, and promptly. Either fix the search system properly (adding specific search for Unknown/Unknown instead of just Any/Any would be a good start.....) or leave it alone, just stop making stuff worse.

[MoeRayShep]

Heri wrote...

/signed

This matchmaking system is BEYOND RETARDED. Which we could have told BW ourselves before they decided to sneak this into the game with no warning and no notice.

I think this is sort of the insult added to the injury of a solid chunk of bugs surviving the patch.

[failsure]

It's bizarre to go into a lobby and see all similar N7s almost all of the time. Once the game (finally) gets started it's nice in a way as they tend to be experienced and play well. But I honestly miss the more...energetic games with a mix of experienced and inexperienced players. Seriously seeing too many "10 waves survived" awards ;-p And the lobbies take a while to fill. I figured getting dumped into an in-progress game would circumvent this, but on extraction everybody is 900ish the last three or so times.

I still see mixed lobbies but it's getting to be unusual rather than the norm. I find it annoying as I only play bronze/silver and especially on bronze there's not a ton of high N7.

Please revert to original behavior or something weighted a bit less heavily to an arbitrary number.

[drmoose00]

Quackjack wrote...

 if you keep this MP will be dead in a week.

this

[wharone]

Dear god, please revert it back. It's near impossible to find a full room now, not to mention that N7 score wasn't exactly a good indicator of who's good and who's not. I'd rather let their actual skill show through rather than just a bland number.

[LeandroBraz]

lemon00 wrote...

Quackjack wrote...

 if you keep this MP will be dead in a week.

this

a week? It die today if we don't get a answer. I won't sit in a lobby for one hour just to get a match...

[Clayless]

Haven't noticed, N7 level 148 I think, because what's the point in promoting more than once?

[LeandroBraz]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Haven't noticed, N7 level 148 I think, because what's the point in promoting more than once?

I like to change my builds all the time, try new stuffs, and I like to level up, win a gold match with a level 10, that kind of thing...

[Miclotov]

Xbox with rather high rank (1200+) here. This "matchmaking" is highly annoying. Tried to find a close to full lobby, but after 30 minutes of trying I just turned off the console. In that 30 minutes I just got thrown into lobbies which where hosted by someone else with a similar rank. These lobbies where just the host and me. Even after staying 5 minutes no one else joined.

So please Bioware, whatever you have done to the matchmaking or however you call it in a co-op game, undo it asap. Thank you.

[RequiemPrime]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Haven't noticed, N7 level 148 I think, because what's the point in promoting more than once?

I think that's why most of us with lower ranks are having an easier time with it, because there are more us available to each other.

[Adhok42]

/sign once more

[D.Shepard]

LeandroBraz wrote...

lemon00 wrote...

Quackjack wrote...

 if you keep this MP will be dead in a week.

this

a week? It die today if we don't get a answer. I won't sit in a lobby for one hour just to get a match...

I haven't waited for one hour yet but finding players is getting longer. I nearly spend more time in lobbies than playing.
Several players join the lobby and we they see only one other player they leave after several minutes if no one else joins.

Beside I don't see the point in "N7 matchmaking". N7 ranks mean nothing. It just prove you promoted a lot of characters (via play, pack acquired with real money or even leeching. Leechers get a lot of credits and XP)

I'm N7 567 ( or 568, by they way it's not so important) because I rarely promote characters.
There are N7 2000 and above who ruins game due to their lack of skill.
I'm proud to state my skills does not come from my N7 level but from how I play the game.
I need a capable team and I don't care about N7 rank.

If they introduce a "skill system" (number of completed matches, awards and Xp earned) I may welcome it but N7 matchmaking is less than useful. In fact it may be the very opposite.

[wharone]

D.Shepard wrote...

I haven't waited for one hour yet but finding players is getting longer. I nearly spend more time in lobbies than playing.
Several players join the lobby and we they see only one other player they leave after several minutes if no one else joins.

Beside I don't see the point in "N7 matchmaking". N7 ranks mean nothing. It just prove you promoted a lot of characters (via play, pack acquired with real money or even leeching. Leechers get a lot of credits and XP)

I'm N7 567 ( or 568, by they way it's not so important) because I rarely promote characters.
There are N7 2000 and above who ruins game due to their lack of skill.
I'm proud to state my skills does not come from my N7 level but from how I play the game.
I need a capable team and I don't care about N7 rank.

If they introduce a "skill system" (number of completed matches, awards and Xp earned) I may welcome it but N7 matchmaking is less than useful. In fact it may be the very opposite.

I agree. For the most part, N7 is more of an indicator of if you've bought alot of packs or promoted characters like crazy. I'm a pretty low N7 rank myself, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm absolutely less skilled than someone with a higher score. 

Currently, I'm in the silver queue and it's taking forever to find a match, and even when it does, there's virtually no one in the room. Ugh, talk about a pain.