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[DeathMotion-]

Yes,this should be rolled back immediately.I am SICK AND TIRED of playing FBWGG,I don't want to do FARMING I want to have fun with this game but with the new matchmaking system when I search for Reapers it doesn't find a god damn single match.WHY!? it usually just drops me off on an unknown/unknown/gold or unknown/reaper/gold. but it can't because it was usually the Low leveled ones (which I didn't mind) that had this but because of the matchmaking thing,Now I can't get any of THIS

bioware shouldn't 'discuss' with their staff about this.They should just remove it,plain and simple.IT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA.This is slowly making people not want to play this game at all because of waiting so long on lobbies,Sure you can play with friends but with if my friends aren't online? I go to a quick match and I get the same damn thing...FBWGG.

Modifié par DeathMotion-, 03 juin 2012 - 08:45 .

[Count Viceroy]

This needs to be removed. Now....

[Equidae]

I'm not surprised Bioware hasn't updated us on where this matchmaking thing stands, besides the one thread that says they're "considering on whether or not to roll it back". Just get rid of it!

[Bushido Effect]

^^^^^^ What many more people above me have been saying. This.

[IBYCFOTA]

DayusMakhina wrote...

I just absolutely love failing on Gold because my lowish N7 rating (270) means I get matched with people who quite frankly shouldn't even be playing gold (people using uncommons that aren't even maxed, wtf?). Jus come out of a game where we lost at wave 10 because it was the carry objective and my entire team died within 15 seconds.

This has been my exact experience since the matchmaking changes. Every lobby that I get into is filled with players with all sorts of goofy classes and loadouts that stand no chance in Gold. I usually leave and search for another match only to get another group of misfits. It's beyond frustrating. I'm not exactly a l337 player myself but I'm a solid Gold player despite my low N7 rating (rarely ever promote is why). If this isn't fixed ASAP I'm going to stop playing this game in public matches for good. There's absolutely no point.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Roll back this immediately. It has made matchmaking slow. It drops me into the middle of a match, and that takes a while for the lag to catch up. I usually die in the first spawn because I don't know where I spawned especially if on a new map or what wave. This also causes a lag spike for the team. I'll just bleed out and wait for next wave.

[Fisterbear]

Strict31 wrote...

 Today's experience was just...absurd.

I've got an N7 of 910. My buddy, who started playing around the same time as I did has an N7 of 2000+.

I open a room this morning and invite him in. He was my only friend online at the time, so we opened the room to the Public.

For ten minutes, nothing happened. Because our N7 scores are so different, it was like the system just couldn't decide which one to use. Then, we got a guy who was N71400 or so. That guy sat there for another five minutes waiting for a fourth. He got bored and jetted. We closed the room down and opened a new one on the offchance that computer-stuff-I-don't-understand needed to reboot or reset or something. And we spent another ten minutes waiting before the exact same guy showed back up in the room. And then left again.

And over the next ten to twenty minutes, he got sent back to the room three or four more times. He'd sit for a bit. Then get bored and leave, and the matchmaker would send him right back to our lobby.

My buddy and I got bored waiting for Silver to fill up, so we decided to do a two man Bronze and hoped players would be added to the match in progress.

And the SAME GUY SHOWED UP TO THE MATCH.

At 11:30 were there only 3 people playing on Silver or something?

Nope. You were not.

However that dude with the 1400 was the only one close to the 1460 (or so) average you and your friend work out to.

Last night at one time there was a lobby with me (597) and a friend (840) in a lobby with a 720 and a 722.

720 is 120 more than 600 (597) and 120 less than 840.

So if you and a friend make a lobby, expect almost always players exactly between your N7 ranks with like a error margin of 50 or so.


Dear Bioware. I appreciate what you tried to do catering to the whiners who were complaining about playing with bad players. However high N7 =/= high skill.

Please roll this back. Please.

Unless you really do want to kill your game.

Modifié par Fisterbear, 03 juin 2012 - 11:23 .

[Bushido Effect]

I'm forced to solo bronze more often now. Not very fun.

[Fade9wayz]

This NEEDS to be removed. Hosting has become such a chore! The lobbies take forever to fill up (when they do...). I find myself braving lags and glitches by joining other's match since I get so tired of waiting. This is killing the vanguard class more assuredly than any bug.

Besides, it is annoying even when playing other classes, everyone gets so fed up of waiting that the game is started before the lobby has a chance of being filled. So, no chance to adapt your class and gear with the eventual other players...

[tzu13]

I registered to use the forums just to post this. I am so tired of this ridiculous N7 matchmaking system. N7 rating is in no way connected to player skill, so why the hell would you use it for matchmaking? I can't imagine how such an idiotic notion was ever considered, let alone actually implemented. All it does is arbitrarily restrict the number of games you can join.

Bioware, please change it back without creating more bugs (which seems to happen every time you all do something anyway). Maybe then I'll consider returning to this game.

[Yosuke]

Perhaps this could be an option set to "off" by default and the ranges expanded somewhat. I've always been a proponent of N7 levels not meaning much, but if the option's there, why not give people the choice?

[Quxorda]

Yosuke wrote...

Perhaps this could be an option set to "off" by default and the ranges expanded somewhat. I've always been a proponent of N7 levels not meaning much, but if the option's there, why not give people the choice?

Whats the reason for the choice though. N7 measures absolutely nothing, and N7 20 could have more unlocks then an N7 2000. It's a solution with no problem, it wasn't needed and it's unneccisary. These things exist in match making based competetive titles to try and avoid stacked teams - that's completely irrelevant in multiple ways for this game.

It needs to be removed. I'm tired of soloing or duoing maps, I've had 2 or 3 matches with three or more people since it went live. I just got done soloing silver in the vain hope people would join midway.

[Yoshiyuki Ly]

Get rid of this feature immediately. Please.

[Yosuke]

Quxorda wrote...

Yosuke wrote...

Perhaps this could be an option set to "off" by default and the ranges expanded somewhat. I've always been a proponent of N7 levels not meaning much, but if the option's there, why not give people the choice?

Whats the reason for the choice though. N7 measures absolutely nothing, and N7 20 could have more unlocks then an N7 2000. It's a solution with no problem, it wasn't needed and it's unneccisary. These things exist in match making based competetive titles to try and avoid stacked teams - that's completely irrelevant in multiple ways for this game.

It needs to be removed. I'm tired of soloing or duoing maps, I've had 2 or 3 matches with three or more people since it went live. I just got done soloing silver in the vain hope people would join midway.

The reason would be so that I wouldn't have to sit in a lobby with the N7 1000+ who can't hit the side of a barn who tries to kick the sub-100 who can. I think overall it'd be an improvement, as I do want to avoid one set of people when matchmaking... the people who are overly picky. The easiest way to do this is to let those people separate themselves out from us on their own

Modifié par Yosuke, 04 juin 2012 - 01:36 .

[junkgypsy]

I stopped playing 3 days ago because of this matchmaking. I won't even try to play again until it is fixed. If they don't fix it, I will move on to another game and the money I spent for this game will have been a wasted.

[arrveetee]

Yoshiyuki Ly wrote...

Get rid of this feature immediately. Please.

Sat in a lobby for ~ 20 mins with her ^ and some poor guy kept repeatedly being assigned to us (about 6 times) when he didn't want to be.  It was entertaining the first three times, then it just got silly.  No one else joined. Very unhelpful and it became impossible for us to play together (unless we did a duo).  Ridiculous.  Remove feature please - it assists very few.

[digitalcraft]

Bioware is an interesting company in how they can make some amazing thing then one very stupid decision just undermines the entire thing. Great game, fail utterly at the ending ruining all their work. Fun multiplayer, hey lets make it unplayable with a fail matchmaking scheme. Its impressive how much work they can undo just with terrible decisions.

[Beastpwnguy7]

Yea I really hope they changed it back, hosting a game was pretty much impossible for me, at least 10 min just for 1 person to join, and much longer for a full lobby. And when I was random searching I was thrown into the same FBWGG lobby like 5 times in a row!! Please change it, I really don't mind playing with lower n7 levels, I never kick anyone anyways

[eddieoctane]

Equidae wrote...

I'm not surprised Bioware hasn't updated us on where this matchmaking thing stands, besides the one thread that says they're "considering on whether or not to roll it back". Just get rid of it!

BioWare won't roll it back. Doing so would violate their "artistic integrity". Though continually meddling with the game does not. Isn't hypocrisy grand?

[xxrufus7xx]

Please roll back this change ASAP.

[Yoshiyuki Ly]

arrveetee wrote...

Yoshiyuki Ly wrote...

Get rid of this feature immediately. Please.

Sat in a lobby for ~ 20 mins with her ^ and some poor guy kept repeatedly being assigned to us (about 6 times) when he didn't want to be.  It was entertaining the first three times, then it just got silly.  No one else joined. Very unhelpful and it became impossible for us to play together (unless we did a duo).  Ridiculous.  Remove feature please - it assists very few.

Ahaha, hey

/bump

[Define Clarity]

Roll this back immediately. Being 1100+ it's near impossible to find players for certain preferences, and it's worse for higher levels. Don't tell me to join a game because I don't want to play R/R/G with some host that lives across the ocean. Friends aren't a problem but everybody isn't on at everytime nor do certain people want to play certain matchups. PLEASE undo this. I will not shutup until this is fixed, it's actually gamebreaking.

[Lord Thornos]

Anyone want to run gold? Add me on xbox gt = username

[Quxorda]

Yosuke wrote...

Quxorda wrote...

Yosuke wrote...

Perhaps this could be an option set to "off" by default and the ranges expanded somewhat. I've always been a proponent of N7 levels not meaning much, but if the option's there, why not give people the choice?

Whats the reason for the choice though. N7 measures absolutely nothing, and N7 20 could have more unlocks then an N7 2000. It's a solution with no problem, it wasn't needed and it's unneccisary. These things exist in match making based competetive titles to try and avoid stacked teams - that's completely irrelevant in multiple ways for this game.

It needs to be removed. I'm tired of soloing or duoing maps, I've had 2 or 3 matches with three or more people since it went live. I just got done soloing silver in the vain hope people would join midway.

The reason would be so that I wouldn't have to sit in a lobby with the N7 1000+ who can't hit the side of a barn who tries to kick the sub-100 who can. I think overall it'd be an improvement, as I do want to avoid one set of people when matchmaking... the people who are overly picky. The easiest way to do this is to let those people separate themselves out from us on their own

That reason is based on a completely faulty assumption though. It assumes that people with high N7 ratings are going to be the more annoying portion of the population and/or the more elitist portion. N7 rating doesn't measure anything but the combined levels of all your characters and an additional bonus for each promotion. You aren't segregated from more "hardcore" players or whatever you want to call them, just from people that for whatever reason have leveled up a lot of different characters or promoted many times.

The idea that someone with a high N7 rating is more likely to be some hardcore **** that talks down to others is as in-accurate as any other form of profiling (might seem silly, but that's exactly what it is). An N7 1 is no more likely to  be an **** then an N7 10,000, the numbers don't mean anything. 

The personality type you are trying to avoid with this isn't caused by the N7 rating, it just uses the N7 rating as some flimsy barometer by which they make themselves feel superior to others. This trait still exists with the absence of that ranking, they simply use other things to make themselves seem better. Ironically, many of the people that espose causal play is somehow more legitmate and fun then hardcore play are merely doing this exact thing. in reality, neither hardcore or casual are more valid as a source of enjoyment.

Normally I'm not against adding options to a game, but this is an option that accomplishes nothing and only harms the people who use it (another recent title, Diablo 3, has similar bone headed options that only serve to hurt the users).

[Define Clarity]

Lord Thornos wrote...

Anyone want to run gold? Add me on xbox gt = username

You joined and left my FBWGG game about 10 times. GT- Abnegates. I don't have a problem switching and im not a scrub. I'am however, looking for players.