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Bosses - No headshots, no weakspots, no tactics to fight them = NO FUN!


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Banshee has a head, Prime has a head, Atlas has a windshield that is suppose to be a weak spot (can be broken in SP)

Yet we can't score headshots against them. WHY? It's BS. They give us the Krysae that CAN'T score headshots and doesn't even need to be aimed on top of that. They nerf the Kishock too. What does Bioware tell us? You don't need skill to play this game? You are rewarded with AOE splash damage, yet careful aiming is discouraged. Tactics and steady aim against bosses are discouraged. Just unload whatever you have on them! 

Again I call BS. 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 01 juin 2012 - 04:19 .


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Lord Thornos

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Yup, bosses should obv take headshots. Many classes suffer as a result of not being able to get headshots on bosses.

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Mozts

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You think point-and-shoot is tactic?

Its quite the opposite my friend. Now, you can't kill the Prime with a Paladin so easily, so you HAVE to use real tactics.

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Mesonak

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Could've sworn you can get headshots against Primes (mainly because I've done it hundreds of times).

But your point stands regardless.

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Other than Infiltrator, no-one really "suffers" from not being able to headshot bosses.
Besides they wouldn't be bosses if they had weakpoints...

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Ziegrif

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I do agree that headshots for bosses are something that should be obvious.
Buuuuuut I do enjoy the fact that I don't have to think where I shoot anymore.
AIM FOR THE CROTCH PEOPLE!

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Mozts wrote...

You think point-and-shoot is tactic?

Its quite the opposite my friend. Now, you can't kill the Prime with a Paladin so easily, so you HAVE to use real tactics.


Yes.  Like Warp->Throw spamming.  Super hard tactic to master.

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Mesonak wrote...

Could've sworn you can get headshots against Primes (mainly because I've done it hundreds of times).

But your point stands regardless.


You can't anymore.

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codename2o2

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I'm surprised at how many people are up in arms about the kishock.. techincally the whole critical double damage thing it had going was a glitch. Albeit an awesome glitch but still a glitch that wasn't supposed to be a feature of the gun.

Other than that, I agree with the whole no headshot thing. 'Tis a bit of a silly way to "balance" out bosses.

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Hmm, as much as the OP's post sounds as a rage post, I do agree with his general point. Skill should be awarded. Just because this way it takes more effort to balance, doesn't mean it's the way to go. 'Every enemy has a weak spot' is one of the truest sayings, why go against common law?

If bioware can give me a logical reason for why they shouldn't have weak spots and some extra effort be put into balancing, I'd be a happy man.

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Mesonak wrote...

Could've sworn you can get headshots against Primes (mainly because I've done it hundreds of times).

But your point stands regardless.

You could get them until the patch.

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GGW KillerTiger

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Geth boss(es):
Prime -> no weak point

Reaper Boss(es):
Banshee -> no weak point
Brute -> shoot off stomach plate then weak point revealed
Ravanger -> No weak point

Cerberus boss(es):
Atlas -> Weak points are crotch plate, joints and some claim the back fan
Phantom -> Headshot

Seems fine and right to me.

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Get a QI to do a tacscan and someone else to fire a proxy.
There's your strategy.

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Agueybana

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Mesonak wrote...

Could've sworn you can get headshots against Primes (mainly because I've done it hundreds of times).

But your point stands regardless.


You probably have in the past. The new update stops them from having that weakness.

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Bosses should be bossy.

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Mozts wrote...

You think point-and-shoot is tactic?

Its quite the opposite my friend. Now, you can't kill the Prime with a Paladin so easily, so you HAVE to use real tactics.


There's NO tactics now. You DON'T need to aim. I would get if you had to go around Atlas and shoot if from the back into his generator thing. BUT NO!

Why does the Banshee has no weakspots? Why does the Prime has no weakspots? 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 31 mai 2012 - 08:01 .


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CrutchCricket

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Really from what I understand Atlases had the canopy as a weakspot and Primes had the head. Banshees were the only ones that didn't. So instead of giving them a weakspot, they removed the weakspot from the other two. Yeah that makes sense...

Also weakspot doesn't necessarily mean "does 30000% damage". You can still have weakspots without OHK. Either that or do a crit system like TF2. And add hats.

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With the new patch they made the game really boring in that sense. No more headshots to bosses but really they are so common they can't be called bosses.

Best way to kill them now is big colorful booms and no more guns.

Just another nail in the coffin I say. A lot of people gave Mp 6 months...guess that Bioware is speeding that up.

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When did they remove headshot bonuses on bosses? I've gotten headshots on primes before.

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Atlases still have damage spike points (groin plate, knee plates and shoulder plates can all be shot and when blown off, does a one time damage spike). Banshees have never had a weak spot so just aim for belly since it's hardest point to miss. Primes head were too easy to shoot anyways and since geth don't have an insta-kill unit, should have some other advantage against us.

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Crashingvanity wrote...

When did they remove headshot bonuses on bosses? I've gotten headshots on primes before.

Read patch notes sometime .....

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BeardyMcGoo

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Mandalore313 wrote...

Get a QI to do a tacscan and someone else to fire a proxy.
There's your strategy.

And a Justicar to bubble.

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"Tactics" involves more than just shooting and using powers, it also involves using terrain to your advantage, tactical retreat/fallback positions, clearing the flanking enemy so you can fall back, etc. It's not just one person with one gun and a few powers trying to knock the Barrier and Armor tiles off the enemy's status bar. Tactics is really about controlling the battlefield. The best tactic is to keep bosses busy while wiping out trash mobs and deadly middle-tier enemies like Ravagers, Guardians, and Geth Pyros. Once the crowd clears, the bosses are pretty easy to take down. The trick is to not let them kill the person distracting them.

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BioWare! Where's my easy button?! I want to win at everything forever!

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Crashingvanity

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GGW KillerTiger wrote...

Crashingvanity wrote...

When did they remove headshot bonuses on bosses? I've gotten headshots on primes before.

Read patch notes sometime .....

I did, I didn't see anything pertaining to the removal of a headshot multiplier. Can you link me and quote where it is?