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[Shatterhand1701]

What I'm curious about now is the extent of his and Jennifer Hale's contributions to the EC.

[Kunari801]

Han Shot First wrote...

The Angry One wrote...
Clarification. There's that word again.

I hate it.

It drips with arrogance. To be clear I'm not accusing Meer of that, but rather Bioware/EA.

"Oh, our fans don't like the amazing ending we crafted? They clearly don't understand the level of genius writing and artistic integrity involved. Lets create DLC that explains it to these simpletons."

According to the article, Meer hasn't played ME3 yet, "...he has yet to play Mass Effect 3 and experience its original ending from a player's perspective..." so he knows what they are from the VO work, but hasn't seen it as a player yet.   

[M0keys]

Versidious wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

M0keys wrote...

shepard is a good guy.

No. Replay ME1 as a Renagde and then say "ohh he's just Han Solo"

Absolutely. ME1 Renegade was hard going sometimes. The fatal double crossing of Gianna on Noveria; Gunning down all the Feros colonists; Committing genocide by bathing a sentient being in acid whilst it's still alive and screaming. Telling Tali to stick it up her arse, she's not getting the data to help her people; Shooting Wrex in his face/Getting Ash to shoot Wrex in the back...  ME2 Renegade was really easy to play, comparatively.

And that's what happens when you take renegade all the way. You can make him pretty close to evil, but you have to really do it all the time. BTW, how many people actually go entirely one way or another? that'd be an interesting poll

[bleetman]

Versidious wrote...

Telling Tali to stick it up her arse, she's not getting the data to help her people

It's ok. By ME2, she spontaneously loves you anyway.

And then steals the Normandy's stealth tech.

[Kunari801]

Shatterhand1701 wrote...

What I'm curious about now is the extent of his and Jennifer Hale's contributions to the EC.

He couldn't say, but at least some news is starting to dribble out.  

[Taboo]

I was right again.

Thank God.

I only hope I'm right about more or even the rest.

[Kunari801]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I was right again.

Thank God.

I only hope I'm right about more or even the rest.

Which "right" was this one again?  

[N7L4D]

The Angry One wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

I'd actually be interested on his and Hale's thoughts on being made to voice the dialogue of the worst genocidal maniac of all history and possibly any fictional setting ever as it pathetically tries to justify it's psychotic and murderous acts.

So you will ask her about all the genocidal maniac stuff FemShep could do in the entire trilogy? Sniff sniff, I smell some Paragon bias here.

Yes, because killing a few people is directly analagous to being responsible for a quintilion deaths then lying about it and claiming you're not killing anyone and doing them all a huge favour.

Really Isaac I know you'll just argue about anything but seriously?

Wow then you two have something in common:whistle:

[dreamgazer]

 

M0keys wrote...
dude, the world would've rejected poor jake lloyd if episode 1 was a radio serial

I know this is almost like lobbing a tennis ball to be smacked, and I anticipate the response it's going to get, but the catalyst's voice didn't ruin the early integrity of one of cinema's most recognizable villains.  

Jake Lloyd gave a face to hate in terms of how poorly Episode I was executed (him and Jar-Jar).  His visage was ruined, which wrecks the career of a standard actor.  

A better example would actually be Jar-Jar Binks' voice actor, Ahmed Best, who went on to do much more work after Episode 1.  He was put on the radar, even though he was maligned.  He hasn't soared, but he's doing just fine in the outer-Star Wars content he apparently participates in. 

Modifié par dreamgazer, 31 mai 2012 - 09:55 .

[Shallyah]

We should have kidnapped the VA that was in charge of dubbing the Catalyst while we were in time.

Modifié par Shallyah, 31 mai 2012 - 09:59 .

[M0keys]

dreamgazer wrote...

 

M0keys wrote...
dude, the world would've rejected poor jake lloyd if episode 1 was a radio serial

I know this is almost like lobbing a tennis ball to be smacked, and I anticipate the response it's going to get, but the catalyst's voice didn't ruin the integrity of one of cinema's most recognizable villains.  

Jake Lloyd gave a face to hate in terms of how poorly Episode I was executed (him and Jar-Jar).  His visage was ruined, which wrecks the career of a standard actor.  

A better example would actually be Jar-Jar Binks' voice actor, Ahmed Best, who went on to do much more work after Episode 1.  He was put on the radar, even though he was maligned.  He hasn't soared, but he's doing just fine in the outer-Star Wars content he apparently participates in. 

wow, what? really? I thought Admed Best disappeared too! what's he done?

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

bleetman wrote...

And then steals the Normandy's stealth tech.

I'm pretty sure that was confirmed by Weekes to be false; I don't have a source though, because it was in the middle of some really big thread of which name I can't remember. And I apparently can't even go on his Twitter profile without having Twitter myself; don't know what's up with that...

Modifié par Mr. Big Pimpin, 31 mai 2012 - 09:56 .

[Mcfly616]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Clarification. There's that word again.

makes me remember the words a movie fan never wants to hear what to expect from a sequel "dark" and "edgy"

these kind of words are like alarm signs for me

The Empire Strikes Back was "dark" and "edgy" compared to its predecessor.....turned out to be the best in the Star Wars saga......

The Dark Knight was "dark" and "edgy" compared to its predecessor......it turned out to be arguably the best superhero movie ever made.....


I do agree with you however.....such terms also alarm me when I hear them.....but that doesnt mean they cant work......they obviously didn't work for ME3, but there's a vast amount of reasons why ME3's ending doesn't work.....

And if all they plan to do is "clarify" it.....then there will be many new reasons why it doesnt work, along with the current reasons

[dreamgazer]

M0keys wrote...

wow, what? really? I thought Admed Best disappeared too! what's he done?

Bit parts here and there, both TV and film.  And, of course, a recurring presence in the Star Wars universe.

Nothing spectacular, and he's not a robust "counter-example", but he definitely worked/works plenty after all was said and done---and listing Episode 1 assuredly helped in that.

[Heather Cline]

We don't want clarification. We want the endings we were promised. Again with this stupid clarification crap.

[seltaeb]

Well, knowing that we will hear more lines from Shepard is definitely a good thing. When we only knew that we're going to get more dialogue from EDI and Hackett, we could still expect just few additional scenes at the end of the game. Now it's either different ending (Shepard speaking even after 'perfect destroy ending' is unlikely) or more lines during the final scenes, which can mean everything or nothing.

[Taboo]

I support....trickling down of information.

Also, if they were just clarifying...we would have had the info by now. Like, on paper.

[Versidious]

bleetman wrote...

Versidious wrote...

Telling Tali to stick it up her arse, she's not getting the data to help her people

It's ok. By ME2, she spontaneously loves you anyway.

And then steals the Normandy's stealth tech.

"So, you refused to help me before, you're working for the organisation that attacked my entire home fleet and hates aliens, and gave the person I was supposed to rescue over to aforementioned organisation, where he is further traumatised...   Did I mention that I really want your dick?"

[Baa Baa]

selphiegirl wrote...

Maybe he should've just stayed quiet like the other VA's and just say he recorded dialogue for EC. Didn't he also say in a previous interview that he liked the ending?

I don't think there's an interview where he said that. I've seen about two articles where he talks about it and one video where he's asked a question about it by a fan. In both he pretty much avoids giving an answer.

[dreamgazer]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I was right again.

Thank God.

I only hope I'm right about more or even the rest.

Oh, brother.

You were right about what, exactly?  The lead VA coming back to voice work for an extension of the content?

[Versidious]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I support....trickling down of information.

Also, if they were just clarifying...we would have had the info by now. Like, on paper.

The silence is actually really interesting. I think they're still not sure exactly what they're doing, even now. As you say, if all they were doing was clarifying, they'd have at least given us a bit more of a general idea, to see the reactions to it.

[Taboo]

dreamgazer wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I was right again.

Thank God.

I only hope I'm right about more or even the rest.

Oh, brother.

You were right about what, exactly?  The lead VA coming back to voice work for an extension of the content?

I say this only because I was given a great deal of flak, both on the forums and in Private messages.

Bioware taking it seriously.
Bioware not simply doing epilouge slides.
Bioware creating something more than just "cinematics"
Voice Actors returning.
Slow trickling down of information.

All were predictable, but I was the only one who pressed the issue weeks and weeks ago. I suffered I great deal of hate for it. But I was right. What right do you have to take that from me?

[dreamgazer]

Taboo-XX wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I was right again.

Thank God.

I only hope I'm right about more or even the rest.

Oh, brother.

You were right about what, exactly?  The lead VA coming back to voice work for an extension of the content?

I say this only because I was given a great deal of flak, both on the forums and in Private messages.

Bioware taking it seriously.
Bioware not simply doing epilouge slides.
Bioware creating something more than just "cinematics"
Voice Actors returning.
Slow trickling down of information.

All were predictable, but I was the only one who pressed the issue weeks and weeks ago. I suffered I great deal of hate for it. But I was right. What right do you have to take that from me?

Right, right.  Enjoy basking in the ... uh, victory, I suppose.  

Just know that MANY more people were thinking the same thing, and they voiced faith in the EC's quality "alongside" you. 

[Versidious]

Taboo-XX wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I was right again.

Thank God.

I only hope I'm right about more or even the rest.

Oh, brother.

You were right about what, exactly?  The lead VA coming back to voice work for an extension of the content?

I say this only because I was given a great deal of flak, both on the forums and in Private messages.

Bioware taking it seriously.
Bioware not simply doing epilouge slides.
Bioware creating something more than just "cinematics"
Voice Actors returning.
Slow trickling down of information.

All were predictable, but I was the only one who pressed the issue weeks and weeks ago. I suffered I great deal of hate for it. But I was right. What right do you have to take that from me?

In all fairness, anyone who'd read the EC FAQ would know most of those things...  :-P

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

The thing is that playing as a renegade in ME1 is harder than in ME2... unless you go full out psycho. Because you pick up paragon points right and left for just doing nothing special, and don't get renegade points unless you really try hard.

Renegade points:
* gun in conrad's face
* shooting Jeong
* you could kill the rachni queen, but if you've got Wrex with you it's more fun to paragon this. Wrex gets really pissed.
* shooting Wrex and dumping his body -- well did this last night, and Garrus says "You did the right thing with Wrex."
* shooting Rana Thanoptis for playing Dr. Mengele.
* you could shoot Shiala on Feros but I don't see the point... unless you want to go full psycho.
* killing the council? again that's almost full psycho. you're pissed at one or two members of the council, the Asari is pretty reasonable, the Salarian is on the fence, it's the Turian who is the ass. So you let 10,000 Asari die for one Turian.

I usually end up 55P/45R at the end of ME1. ME2 I go full out badass renegon.