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#76
Lionel Ou

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I_Jedi wrote...

Lionel Ou wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

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Ah sorry, got any MaleShep / Kaidan as well?
Just want to see if it's Kaidan surviving that does it, or some other combination.


Your suspicions are correct.


Even weirder then. That means that for two separate scenes (male / female with Kaidan surviving) they've added Ashley, yet for two other (Ashley surviving) they didn't add Kaidan. If they just wanted to fill the space, why not just use a generic character and have them in all the scenes?


As an aside, damn, Ashley's hard to get rid of. Not even nuking her keeps her from coming back and (presumably) whine to Shepard about Cerberus.
Atleast Kaidan has the grace to stay dead.


I suspect this guy had a hand in it:
Image IPB


If he can put someone back together again after they've been at the center of a nuclear explosion... I'd rather work for him, actually.

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M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Conveniently only using things that you can twist to fit your view.  Miranda clearly has a big bruise underneath her right eye and it's magically gone a few moments later.  Developers really do sometimes overlook things. 


You mean that shadow under her eye?  Also, you see how the blood appears less visible when at certain distances? It completely disappears at one point, becomes faintly visible a zoom closer, then comes clearly into view a second zoom closer.  

And I'm not twisting anything, sir.  I'm making observations and interpreting.

I'd appreciate it if the generalizations would stop, as I'm not making a single one about you.

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Someone flycam this ****.

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dreamgazer wrote...
You mean that shadow under her eye?  Also, you see how the blood appears less visible when at certain distances? It completely disappears at one point, becomes faintly visible a zoom closer, then comes clearly into view a second zoom closer.  

And I'm not twisting anything, sir.  I'm making observations and interpreting.

I'd appreciate it if the generalizations would stop, as I'm not making a single one about you.


I wouldn't really say it's a shadow.  You can still see it on 0:28.  Unless Miranda has a right eyebrow that is much larger than the rest of her face, I'm not sure what would cause such a shadow.  In any other angle, we never get this shadow. 

On topic: Has anyone figured out the circumstances to get ghost Ashley to appear?  Do you always get her there if she died on VS -- i.e. romance or not, male or female?

Modifié par M U P P 3 T Z, 01 juin 2012 - 12:31 .


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M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...
You mean that shadow under her eye?  Also, you see how the blood appears less visible when at certain distances? It completely disappears at one point, becomes faintly visible a zoom closer, then comes clearly into view a second zoom closer.  

And I'm not twisting anything, sir.  I'm making observations and interpreting.

I'd appreciate it if the generalizations would stop, as I'm not making a single one about you.


I wouldn't really say it's a shadow.  You can still see it on 0:28.  Unless Miranda has a right eyebrow that is much larger than the rest of her face, I'm not sure what would cause such a shadow.  In any other angle, we never get this shadow. 

On topic: Has anyone figured out the circumstances to get ghost Ashley to appear?  Do you always get her there if she died on VS -- i.e. romance or not, male or female?


So far on this thread I count two appearances of Ash (one male and one female shep), and two non-appearances, though one of them may have been looking for Kaiden.

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M U P P 3 T Z wrote...
On topic: Has anyone figured out the circumstances to get ghost Ashley to appear?  Do you always get her there if she died on VS -- i.e. romance or not, male or female?


Well, she appears with FemShep / Kaidan and MaleShep / Kaidan, so it seems to be that just her being dead is enough.

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I_Jedi wrote...

Lionel Ou wrote...

Ah sorry, got any MaleShep / Kaidan as well?
Just want to see if it's Kaidan surviving that does it, or some other combination.


Your suspicions are correct.

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source: at 4:44


I know this is off topic but MOTHER OF GOD your Shepard is ugly :blink:

Also there's an easy way to answer everything in this thread; flycam :lol:

Modifié par TSA_383, 01 juin 2012 - 12:41 .


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http://agentrhodeisl...moment-when-you



Looks like they're both there but when Ashley is standing Kaidan is....floating lol

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Well great it seems Shepard is being haunted by ghosts. What's next, demons?

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Gleeper wrote...

http://agentrhodeisl...moment-when-you



Looks like they're both there but when Ashley is standing Kaidan is....floating lol


And the weirdness factor increases a billion percent!


EDIT - ah, wait. Kaiden is floating because that's where he was in the cutscene. (I think) If you look at the video of it, when the docs are walking away he's not actually on the stretcher.

Modifié par SS2Dante, 01 juin 2012 - 12:50 .


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The floating probably has to do with the fact that they're supposed to be on one of those hospital cart things

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I don't know how to react to this... so I'm not going to.

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Lionel Ou

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SS2Dante wrote...

Gleeper wrote...

http://agentrhodeisl...moment-when-you



Looks like they're both there but when Ashley is standing Kaidan is....floating lol


And the weirdness factor increases a billion percent!


They even used the wounded model of the character!

So, I'm guessing Kaidan is supposed to show? and It's just a bug that makes him not show.
Or none of them are supposed to show and Ashley showing up is a bug... but then why even load the models?

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TheClonesLegacy

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Hey I just Met you and this crazy
But you saw Ashley
I think you might be Crazy.

...That's all I need to say
(also I can't write songs man hence the Rhyming of Crazy with Crazy)

Modifié par TheClonesLegacy, 01 juin 2012 - 12:55 .


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Lionel Ou wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Gleeper wrote...

http://agentrhodeisl...moment-when-you



Looks like they're both there but when Ashley is standing Kaidan is....floating lol


And the weirdness factor increases a billion percent!


They even used the wounded model of the character!

So, I'm guessing Kaidan is supposed to show? and It's just a bug that makes him not show.
Or none of them are supposed to show and Ashley showing up is a bug... but then why even load the models?


Edited my post above, realised his being there is probably a result of the cutscene, it's where the model was when we see him on the stretcher. They use angles and stuff very cleverly, you wouldn't believe what the garden planet in the end cutscene is actually like!

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I guess for some reason it's easier to load both of them up and keep the unused one stashed somewhere out of the way, but they made a mistake and stashed Ash somewhere visible?

Modifié par Wulfram, 01 juin 2012 - 12:56 .


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Lionel Ou

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SS2Dante wrote...

Lionel Ou wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Gleeper wrote...

http://agentrhodeisl...moment-when-you



Looks like they're both there but when Ashley is standing Kaidan is....floating lol


And the weirdness factor increases a billion percent!


They even used the wounded model of the character!

So, I'm guessing Kaidan is supposed to show? and It's just a bug that makes him not show.
Or none of them are supposed to show and Ashley showing up is a bug... but then why even load the models?


Edited my post above, realised his being there is probably a result of the cutscene, it's where the model was when we see him on the stretcher. They use angles and stuff very cleverly, you wouldn't believe what the garden planet in the end cutscene is actually like!


Now I just want to see fly cams pictures from the scene with Ashley surviving <.<
Seems like such a waste of resources to load Ashleys model though.

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I shall test with flycam and get back to yall.

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Gleeper wrote...

http://agentrhodeisl...moment-when-you

Looks like they're both there but when Ashley is standing Kaidan is....floating lol


Actually.. I believe the technical term of what Kaidan is doing is a barrel roll.

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Noblewolf wrote...

I shall test with flycam and get back to yall.

thanks man

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Here is some flycam footage for your viewing pleasure, while we await the flycam results for the Huerta Memorial Ghost.

Edit: To the person below me.  Yes.  Scroll up a few posts.

Modifié par M U P P 3 T Z, 01 juin 2012 - 01:05 .


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Nice catch, too bad it glitched with Kaiden.

Modifié par ManUnderMask, 01 juin 2012 - 01:08 .


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M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Here is some flycam footage for your viewing pleasure, while we await the flycam results for the Huerta Memorial Ghost.


So they had no intention of revealing Tali's face in that scene, even to flycam inspectors.  Got it.

Now, we await inspection of something that actually is in viewing range.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 01 juin 2012 - 01:07 .


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I don't think they ever did have any intention to reveal Tali's face. The hash job with the Getty image was probably a: "OH CRAP THE REVEAL YOU GUYS!" moment. Lulz.

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If Ash is in this scene when she's supposed to be dead, maybe Kaidan is in another scene when he's supposed to be dead? This is creepy. I couldn't really say if this does anything specifically for IT, viewed objectively, but I will say this is a bit too odd to be a simple asset reuse. This looks intentional.