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[zerozen00]

sareth_65536 wrote...

Glacier has 4 ammo boxes. All of them are spawning 1 grenade

^Glacier has 3.

/zen

Modifié par zerozen00, 01 juin 2012 - 02:34 .

[sareth_65536]

1: Just in front of the start zone
2: Left from the first one
3: Near extraction zone
4: Again near the extraction zone - near the building
oh wait it even has 5
5: near the wall while moving from 2 to 4

Modifié par sareth_65536, 01 juin 2012 - 02:36 .

[Catastrophy]

Good info, and while we're at it:

If I pick the two grenades from the ammo box, my teammate won't be able to get a refill until the ammo "respawns" right? How long does it take for the ammo to "respawn"?

[We Tigers]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Jade and goddess have 2 grenades in every box.

Sometimes they only have 1, probably if you or someone else took only 1 grenade from them on the previous visit.

Drell adept is a complete monster on the new maps. Especially with my newly aquired  +2 grenades

I've never gotten 2 from the box to the right of the LZ on Jade, and that's playing matches where I'm the only grenadier. I think OP is correct.

Great thread. Interesting that the 3 of the 4 grenade-friendly maps are DLC; perhaps that's how BW decided to address the requests for easier grenade refills. Still not great if you have more than one grenadier, but an improvement.

[zerozen00]

sareth_65536 wrote...

1: Just in front of the start zone
2: Left from the first one
3: Near extraction zone
4: Again near the extraction zone - near the building
oh wait it even has 5
5: near the wall while moving from 2 to 4

Sorry, but Glacier has only 3. Here, I highlighted them for you. You must have confused it with another map.

(Sorry, I'm in an arrow-spamming mood today )

/zen

Modifié par zerozen00, 01 juin 2012 - 02:49 .

[BjornDaDwarf]

sareth_65536 wrote...

1: Just in front of the start zone
2: Left from the first one
3: Near extraction zone
4: Again near the extraction zone - near the building
oh wait it even has 5
5: near the wall while moving from 2 to 4

I think you're describing Condor (large open map on moon of Palaven).  Glacier is the very small map in a Cerberus research facility.  There's one in the open area outside, one upstairs and one downstairs.  It's the only map with only 3 boxes.

[BjornDaDwarf]

dr_random wrote...

Good info, and while we're at it:

If I pick the two grenades from the ammo box, my teammate won't be able to get a refill until the ammo "respawns" right? How long does it take for the ammo to "respawn"?

Yes, that's right, if you pick up a Grenade from a box, then it will be empty for all other players until a respawn.  Pre-patch, ammo and grenades spawned at different times, grenades were always slower.  The refill rate on Gold was very slow, sometimes only once per Wave, depending on how long the Wave was.

However, I was only playing Grenade characters last night, and it really felt like the refill rate has increased.  When I was going through the rest of the maps post-patch last night, I could make one full circuit of a map, and on the second circuit they had already refilled (even the boxes with 2 grenades).  I never timed in pre-patch, so I don't have a way to verify if the time has changed though.  

Modifié par BjornDaDwarf, 01 juin 2012 - 03:14 .

[A Wild Snorlax]

We Tigers wrote...

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Jade and goddess have 2 grenades in every box.

Sometimes they only have 1, probably if you or someone else took only 1 grenade from them on the previous visit.

Drell adept is a complete monster on the new maps. Especially with my newly aquired  +2 grenades

I've never gotten 2 from the box to the right of the LZ on Jade, and that's playing matches where I'm the only grenadier. I think OP is correct.

I have. I was playing it as a drell earlier and was getting 2 grenades from every single box. Same thing when I was playing a soldier. yesterday.

Will pay closer attention next time I play it though. I could be wrong.

Modifié par A Wild Snorlax, 01 juin 2012 - 02:50 .

[Torguemada]

BjornDaDwarf wrote...

dr_random wrote...

Good info, and while we're at it:

If I pick the two grenades from the ammo box, my teammate won't be able to get a refill until the ammo "respawns" right? How long does it take for the ammo to "respawn"?

Yes, that's right, if you pick up a Grenade from a box, then it will be empty for all other players until a respawn.  Pre-patch, ammo and grenades spawned at different times, grenades were always slower.  The refill rate on Gold was very slow, sometimes only once per Wave, depending on how long the Wave was.

However, I was only playing Grenade characters last night, and it really felt like the refill rate has increased.  When I was going through the rest of the maps post-patch last night, I could make one full circuit of a map, and on the second circuit that had already refilled (even the boxes with 2 grenades).  I never timed in pre-patch, so I don't have a way to verify if the time has changed though.  

I definedly have to argee with this, I'm pretty sure  i was picking a up 2 grenades from the same box more then once a wave while playing my batarian soldier on Goddess, i'm prettty sure i used someting like 60 grenades in that match.

[landylan]

so....this means that only one of the teammates with a maxed grenade mod can max his grenades every round? i dont like the idea of thermal clip pack using but i guess i might have to

[Bhatair]

Yep sounds about right. I love firebase Ghost because of the ample supply crates. you can easily hit the two just off the main 'camp area' and the third in the back building if you really need to between waves without messing up enemy spawn points.

[BjornDaDwarf]

landylan wrote...

so....this means that only one of the teammates with a maxed grenade mod can max his grenades every round? i dont like the idea of thermal clip pack using but i guess i might have to

But the crates do seem to be spawning more frequently.  Multiple of us have found re-supplying multiple times in a wave to be pretty easy.  While you may not be able to stock up to 8 or 9 grenades every wave, I think that getting up to 6-7 every wave is going to be pretty doable on the good maps.  

[SkreeMalicious]

they could easily put an ammo box in glacier in the little control room that nobody ever goes in that sometimes contains objectives and is at the top right of the stairs

[astheoceansblue]

Bookmarked. Cheers op!

[BjornDaDwarf]

I'm sure that some other people are already doing this, but I'll point it out for those who may not have thought of it.

When running grenade classes, I have begun leaving the mop-up work at the end of a wave to my teammates. Once I'm quite confident that we are down to just a few enemies left (but before that "Last Enemy" marker gets put up), I will run around to the ammo boxes that are most distant from my team's preferred camp/starting point. If there are other grenade users, they can restock on the closest ammo boxes, and if not, a full run of all ammo boxes will usually fill me up, or really close. Getting refilled on grenades is a lot more valuable to my team than helping kill those last 2-4 enemies.

With the reduced in-between wave time since the patch, this is about the safest way to refill from boxes.

[Hyunsai]

Why the discrimination between the maps Bioware ?

[Ektogamut]

I wish they would modify more of the old maps to be more like the new i.e. more ammo boxes with two grenades. Ghost is the only one that has a decent supply.

[Satirist]

nice thread. good to know.

also a good place to urge bioware to upgrade all ammo boxes to spawn 2 grenades. or at least 2 boxes on each map.

[Beerfish]

Yup, need two at least regardless of the # of grenade users.

Modifié par Beerfish, 18 juin 2012 - 03:09 .

[Trav-O]

I missed the update about the ammo crates restocking faster. And on Gold too, no less! Good times!

[himegoto]

Thanks. But why the discrimination? I feel like similar maps have different nade count its probably not a design feat?

[BjornDaDwarf]

Okay, I've updated with the Earth maps and with info about Platinum. The important thing to note about Plat is that it appears to have the exact same Grenade supply as Gold, which is a huge bonus and not something I expected. I figured all Plat boxes would give only 1, particularly after seeing that they give less ammo.

The new maps are a little surprising. Rio has 8 boxes, two of which give 3 grenades. And Vancouver is terrible for Grenade users. It's a huge map that only has 4 boxes (unless I missed one), and 3 of those only give 1 grenade.

[BjornDaDwarf]

Bump to give a few more people a chance to see the updated info.

[Michael Sammler]

I started playing with a grenade character and am so grateful for these maps and ideas.
Love the discussions on this forum on how to become a better player. These maps started me thinking more about spawn points as well.
Cheers,
Michael

[Denali21]

soulstriker09 wrote...

BjornDaDwarf wrote...
5. beside the uphill path going to the highest point of the map (near the L-shaped pipe area)

Of all the times I've played Condor, I don't think I've ever noticed that one.  You would think after a couple of dozen times running around a map, you'd know all the ammo boxes. 

Okay, let me know if I missed anymore.  I'm obviously not as familiar with Jade or Goddess yet, but I *was* pretty confident I had found them all as much as I played them the night they came out.

as a sniper who regularly camps that highest point, I'm a regular customer of that (poorly placed) ammo box.

I feel ya its a pain to hold the top, but such great sniper lines