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[SSCAlphaleader]

BlackoutOmega wrote...

 If I see another "NERF IT" thread, I think I am going to explode.

Please, for the sake of the people who have not tried it out. Shut. UP.

[Zeroth Angel]

BlackoutOmega wrote...

afb2271 wrote...

I have tried it. It is way overpowered.

It's a co-op game, who cares? This isn't PVP. 
Just because somebody is using a gun is no reason to kick them, and if it's that big of a deal for you, go play Gold and stop flooding the forum with these pointless threads, go vent somewhere else.

This.

[Aryck the One]

X Alastar X wrote...

Its an ANTI MATERIAL RIFLE that fires EXPLOSIVE ROUNDS. It is not OP it functions as one would expect it to. Cobras kill everything in what a 5-10 meter radius? Its OP nerf it. But its a missile launcher thats what missile launchers do. Exactly.

For the record, the Krysae is only overpower when equipped on the Infiltrator; they get that massive sneak attack damage bonus from Tactical Cloak that no other class has, which more than doubles the amount of damage the Krysae does.

In the hands of any other class, the Krysae is about half as useful, give it takes 3 shot to kill most enemies and it has no headshot capability. I'd say nerf the Infiltrator, but... well, that would pi** off 10x as many people, I imagine.

[Chealec]

*sighs* can I get this thread locked as an exact duplicate like on StackOverflow?

[Crypticqa]

Lets face it, you want it to be nerfed because you are not scoring first place right?

Leave it as it is .

[InfamousResult]

CaptainTeabag wrote...

Just because other guns suck does not mean this one is OP.

"Other guns suck."

Every day, more and more people are finding even Gold to be too easy; Gold, being the highest difficulty possible. The one difficulty that should not be easy to beat. They were finding Gold easy long before Krysae came out. They had speed runs of Gold maps on teams, solo Gold runs, using a plethora of the weapons we have available to us- Sniper Rifles, Shotguns, Assault Rifles, Pistols, etc. Not just one gun from every category, but several.

Then comes the Krysae, which required considerably less aim and thought process than most of the other guns- and any of the other guns that it was on-par with in thought process, it had vastly superior stopping power / damage over. Immediately, same-day, people were coming out with record-breaking speed runs using this gun; they beat the times of every other player who attempted the fastest speed, using only the Krysae. If you want to argue that the Krysae is NOT stronger than other guns or biotic classes, then find a speedrun where a team does better than the Krysae teams.

The gun is ridiculous.

If the game is too hard for you without using this gun, I suggest a lower difficulty level.

[InfamousResult]

Crypticqa wrote...
Lets face it, you want it to be nerfed because you are not scoring first place right?

Most people complaining about this gun own it, and at high levels, and have used it. When they used it, they realized it was a ridiculous Cruise Control Cannon. All you have to do is look at the OP's Manifest and you'd see they have the Krysae at X.

But shhh. It's okay. We all make mistakes.

[Hyperion II]

zephyrsky wrote...

BlackoutOmega wrote...

afb2271 wrote...

I have tried it. It is way overpowered.

It's a co-op game, who cares? This isn't PVP. 
Just because somebody is using a gun is no reason to kick them, and if it's that big of a deal for you, go play Gold and stop flooding the forum with these pointless threads, go vent somewhere else.

Agreed!!! 

+1. Leave the Carnage-gun as it is.

[SSCAlphaleader]

Hyperion II wrote...

zephyrsky wrote...

BlackoutOmega wrote...

afb2271 wrote...

I have tried it. It is way overpowered.

It's a co-op game, who cares? This isn't PVP. 
Just because somebody is using a gun is no reason to kick them, and if it's that big of a deal for you, go play Gold and stop flooding the forum with these pointless threads, go vent somewhere else.

Agreed!!! 

+1. Leave the Carnage-gun as it is.

[ShdwPlayer]

SO people still winning games and using legit classes and characters feel they're gimped when their teammate does well? In a coop game? Really?

It's a powerful gun admittedly but it's not going to cause everyone to run only that and kick everyone else who's not using it. Everything is practically viable even in gold in the the hands of a skilled player. So sucky players now have the capacity to be at least decent and contribute? Fine by me, less weight to carry in gold matches when it's a public game. I'm not gonna get mad because the gun clears "everything except two guys" wave. Score is only useful for the XP. Seeing as most everyone has max chars. It's pointless

Modifié par ShdwPlayer, 01 juin 2012 - 03:09 .

[humes spork]

Heri wrote...

And not only that, it takes NO SKILL TO USE...blah blah blah...It's the ultimate noob cannon, and will do nothing except ruin this game.

...really?

Sincerely,
A graal user who gets asked at least once every other game why I don't use the GPS.

[Crypticqa]

InfamousResult wrote...

Crypticqa wrote...
Lets face it, you want it to be nerfed because you are not scoring first place right?

Most people complaining about this gun own it, and at high levels, and have used it. When they used it, they realized it was a ridiculous Cruise Control Cannon. All you have to do is look at the OP's Manifest and you'd see they have the Krysae at X.

But shhh. It's okay. We all make mistakes.

Shh? I am not the one who is crying here for nerf, thank you None is forcing you to use that weapon so where is the problem? Some guns are better then others, deal with it?

[suprhomre]

nerf all the nerfes

[Ogrinash]

Shield gate isn't much of a problem with a BW [or Valiant], nor with any of the powerful shotguns.

The BW can kill most things in two shots, plus hitting stuff behind them with equal power without the AP mod on.

Krysae is a lot better against Phantoms than the other rifles (but then, so is GPS and Graal), but apart from that, it's just as easy, or easier, to do better against most stuff with a BW [on Gold] with an Infiltrator.

[GGW KillerTiger]

I say it needs a huge buff

[InfamousResult]

Crypticqa wrote...

None is forcing you to use that weapon so where is the problem? Some guns are better then others, deal with it?

The problem is an unbalanced game. That's why we have Buffs and Nerfs in the first place.

By your logic, they should never Buff any guns or powers or classes in this game ever again, either.

[tallinn]

Seeing that the krysae can OHK groups of shielded enemies even on gold, I eventually get an understanding what "overpowered" means. I tried it to solo bronze and found that it is very forgiving with my bad aiming skills. But I did not believe that it could be that crushing on gold. Now "overpowered" means to me: making the game too easy.

[ShdwPlayer]

It's fun though as it is. I'm not going to be taking it on each and everyone of my characters. It's not an essential gun.

Fun doesn't count for anything anymore? In a coop game at that. If you're not having fun then don't use it (or taken to the extreme kick people for using it? Kinda stupid though). If it's nerfed into the ground then everyone has to deal with it. But look at me beating an already dead horse. The community has probably decided already, they'd rather have fun.

[Ogrinash]

It can OHK shielded enemies?

It always takes two from cloak to kill a Centurion [on Gold] for me (sometimes three too, but that could be due to losing the cloak bonus if you aren't fast enough). The same with the rest of the shielded enemies on a similar tier.

[InfamousResult]

ShdwPlayer wrote...

If you're not having fun then don't use it (or taken to the extreme kick people for using it? Kinda stupid though).

We want it BALANCED.

We don't want it driven into the ground. We want it to be equal to other guns ( or really a LITTLE bit weaker, to make up for lack of aim ), so it's a good alternate choice. We don't want to HAVE to find other games or kick people for using the gun, but we want to have a balanced game that continues to be challenging. That's not a ridiculous request.

A ridiculous request would be "I want Gold to be as easy as possible so keep this Cruise Control Cannon as powerful as you can".

[John123453242]

What do people even mean by balancing a coop game? Balancing is for PVP. You can't give one side OPed guns and give the other side pea shooters. Do you mean that you want all guns to be the exact same?

[Creakazoid]

tallinn wrote...
Seeing that the krysae can OHK groups of shielded enemies even on gold, I eventually get an understanding what "overpowered" means. I tried it to solo bronze and found that it is very forgiving with my bad aiming skills.

What you just said embodies 100% the only reasons I think it is overpowered. It is a sniper that does not take aiming skills. That, in and of itself, is an oxymoron. Conceptually, I think the slow projectile speed needs to effectually be the fulcrum of balance for the weapon. They should make it only explode on impact with a target. That leaves all the damage and AOE quality of it intact, but it prevents it from being randomly spammed.

[Crypticqa]

InfamousResult wrote...

Crypticqa wrote...

None is forcing you to use that weapon so where is the problem? Some guns are better then others, deal with it?

The problem is an unbalanced game. That's why we have Buffs and Nerfs in the first place.

By your logic, they should never Buff any guns or powers or classes in this game ever again, either.

How is it unbalanced? I could say same thing about BW, NERF it because it is better than Raptor ! Again, if you think the game is too easy with it,dont use it? What is the point of having so many weapons if they are all same...