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[Nissun]

I'm desperately trying to figure out how to use the Vorcha sentinel. I die a lot when I play him, because I can't kill fast enough at short range. So, the other day I saw a thread proposing a 6/0/6/6/6 build with no flamethrower, thus relying on grenades, bloodlust and weapons, without having to worry about cooldown.

Since I have the Widow at level 10 and I haven't used it much, I was thinking about trying it on the Vorcha. The thing is: Is a Widow capable of killing at a decent rate?

I don't want to shoot at something only to leave them with two bars of health and have someone else finish them while I reload. That's my main concern.

Has anybody tried it? What weapons work well for killing fast at mid to long range without having a soldier bonus, powers to soften the targets, or tactical cloak?

[Tangster]

Shotguns are what you want. The Reegar, Claymore, Graal, Eviscerator are all excellent choices and kill rapidly.

I'd probably use a Paladin or a Carnifex for non infiltrator sniping.

[jfruelas521]

I have a 6/0/6/6/6 build with the vorcha sentinel. This allows you to carry any weapons you want without having to worry about a cooldown. Then I carry a heavy sniper rile and heavy shotgun. I switch off between widow X and javelin 3. I also have claymore X as a backup for close range combat, though I must say reegar carbine is also a very good choice for close range combat.

[Stardusk]

Tangster wrote...

Shotguns are what you want. The ReegarWraith, Claymore, Graal, Eviscerator are all excellent choices and kill rapidly.

I'd probably use a Paladin or a Carnifex for non infiltrator sniping.

Fixed.

[Tangster]

Stardusk wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Shotguns are what you want. The ReegarWraith, Claymore, Graal, Eviscerator are all excellent choices and kill rapidly.

I'd probably use a Paladin or a Carnifex for non infiltrator sniping.

Fixed.

Why? I would also thought you'd mention I forgot the Talon. 

[Stardusk]

Tangster wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Shotguns are what you want. The ReegarWraith, Claymore, Graal, Eviscerator are all excellent choices and kill rapidly.

I'd probably use a Paladin or a Carnifex for non infiltrator sniping.

Fixed.

Why? I would also thought you'd mention I forgot the Talon. 

Talon is good too. Reegar is a broken, cheat weapon that no self-respecting player would use.

[vivanto]

Tangster wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Shotguns are what you want. The ReegarWraith, Claymore, Graal, Eviscerator are all excellent choices and kill rapidly.

I'd probably use a Paladin or a Carnifex for non infiltrator sniping.

Fixed.

Why? I would also thought you'd mention I forgot the Talon. 

Probably in relation to the OP, you can't snipe with the Reegar. That said, it's the most bestest gun for the sentinel, and you really should just use it for CQC. The vorcha soldier is better for ranged.

[jfruelas521]

Stardusk wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Shotguns are what you want. The ReegarWraith, Claymore, Graal, Eviscerator are all excellent choices and kill rapidly.

I'd probably use a Paladin or a Carnifex for non infiltrator sniping.

Fixed.

Why? I would also thought you'd mention I forgot the Talon. 

Talon is good too. Reegar is a broken, cheat weapon that no self-respecting player would use.

Better use it now before Bioware nerfs it like they did the Kishock and it goes into the garbage bin forever.

[Tangster]

Stardusk wrote...

Talon is good too. Reegar is a broken, cheat weapon that no self-respecting player would use.

Fun, but certainly overpowered, being able to clear out 3-4 hunters with one extended clip just feels...wrong.

[BjornDaDwarf]

I posted a thread like that the other day, might have been mine.

For giggles, it's awfully fun to take the Reegar and Krysae in together. Ignore the haters, unless you're as good as some the best on these boards (like Stardust), you're still going to get killed using it occasionally. Fighting a majority of a match within 7 meters of your enemies is tough. The few waves I've pulled it off well, it was a blast though.

In the end, I respecced back to a Flamer build after someone in that thread suggested I had been doing the Flamer-thing wrong.

Turns out you can carry two heavy weapons and still use the Flamer pretty effectively! Because Flamer's CD is based on how long you use it, you just don't want to hose something down for the full time. Which, given your limited mobility when using it, you probably don't want to anyways. I found myself kicking off Flamer for a second or two to start a DOT on someone, hopping (literally, the side jump will break it) out of the flamer animation, then opening fire.

[Mandolin]

Claymore is the best vorcha weapon

[SeijiTataki]

Tangster wrote...

Fun, but certainly overpowered, being able to clear out 3-4 hunters with one extended clip just feels...wrong.

That's not how the shotgun clip mod works; it gives you additional backup clips, not additional rounds into the clip. Reegar always has 22 rounds in a clip.

[mpompeo27]

I recommend avoiding snipers on Vorcha because if you happen to be aiming down scope when the Bloodlust stack animation occurs it will throw off your aim. If you must use one, make sure it's a single shot (so basically just the Widow or Javelin).

Modifié par mpompeo27, 01 juin 2012 - 07:55 .

[Horacio Zhao]

Nissun wrote...

I'm desperately trying to figure out how to use the Vorcha sentinel. I die a lot when I play him, because I can't kill fast enough at short range. So, the other day I saw a thread proposing a 6/0/6/6/6 build with no flamethrower, thus relying on grenades, bloodlust and weapons, without having to worry about cooldown.

Since I have the Widow at level 10 and I haven't used it much, I was thinking about trying it on the Vorcha. The thing is: Is a Widow capable of killing at a decent rate?

I don't want to shoot at something only to leave them with two bars of health and have someone else finish them while I reload. That's my main concern.

Has anybody tried it? What weapons work well for killing fast at mid to long range without having a soldier bonus, powers to soften the targets, or tactical cloak?

Use Claymore, widow is hard on gold coz the shield gate

[GenericEnemy]

Just for lulz, I tried a Vorcha Sentinel with a Valiant. It was hilariously fun, and actually not that bad.

[molecularman]

Claymore is a pseudo-sniper so you might wanna use that

[Nissun]

Horacio Zhao wrote...

Use Claymore, widow is hard on gold coz the shield gate

Yeah, but to use the Claymore well, you need to stay close to the enemy. And staying alive at that range with a Vorcha is also hard on Gold.

molecularman wrote...

Claymore is a pseudo-sniper so you might wanna use that

Why would you call the Claymore a "pseudo-sniper"? That's ridiculous. Even with the choke, the range is not long enough to be considered a "pseudo-sniper."

I have experience with the Claymore. You need to get close and aim for the head. I like the Claymore. But it's not suited for long range combat.

The Crusader, on the other hand, is a pseudo-sniper. I use it a lot because I like being able to snipe without a scope.

I might try Crusader + Harrier to have both long and mid-close range firepower. Or Claymore+Widow. Or Javelin+Talon.

I'm guess it's going to be hard to find something that works for me with a sentinel.

[BlackDahlia424]

Stardusk wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Shotguns are what you want. The ReegarWraith, Claymore, Graal, Eviscerator are all excellent choices and kill rapidly.

I'd probably use a Paladin or a Carnifex for non infiltrator sniping.

Fixed.

Why? I would also thought you'd mention I forgot the Talon. 

Talon is good too. Reegar is a broken, cheat weapon that no self-respecting player would use.

The Reegar is fine. With a crap range and small clip, it 's far more balanced than a certain new sniper rifle. It certainly doesn't take enemies down any faster than a geth pyro can kill you on gold.

[SeijiTataki]

Claymore is actually decent at long ranges if you have some sort of additional accuracy bonus on top of the smart coke; but that leaves you limited to Geth with hunter mode evolved in such a way, or Turian Soldiers.

Not saying that it's still even close to being a 'sniper', but it has a reliable enough pellet spread with its damage you can still score a decent number of long range head shots.

[Farmtech-Ru]

Vorcha sniper is like an amerikan ninja by Dudikoff - awe inspiring. I suggest having a long range gun for cases when short range ones can't reach. In that case Indra, Incisor, valiant and the new sniper rifles seem ok. But main fun is using reegar, then your ability flamer.. and having enough regen to live with it.

Edit: maxed graal is okay for ranges, even extreme ones.

Modifié par Farmtech-Ru, 01 juin 2012 - 08:24 .

[Amftron]

Farmtech-Ru wrote...
 In that case Indra, Incisor, valiant and the new sniper rifles seem ok.

I think he wants to kill stuff, not tickle it.

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

On my Vorcha Sentinel, I'm packing a Saber I with the piercing mod and extended barrel along with the Reegar Carbine with spare ammo and high caliber barrel. I use the saber for ranged stuff and the Reegar for cqc. I just love melting enemies with it and seeing their bodies melt into a pile of electric ash. Especially on phantoms and pyros.

[ShdwPlayer]

Flamer builds work quite well actually even on gold. All you really need is something to deal with shields and barriers (N7 Hurricane does it for me - also gives me an excuse to use those stacks of SMG amps I have laying around). Flamer vorchas are particularly effective against Reapers.

I've also found survivability isn't really an issue for me, spec bloodlust for health (over melee). You'll have to get used to playing without shields though, but as is already apparent (here on the forums) vorchas are pretty tanky.

6/6/3/5/6

[mpompeo27]

ShdwPlayer wrote...

Flamer builds work quite well actually even on gold. All you really need is something to deal with shields and barriers (N7 Hurricane does it for me - also gives me an excuse to use those stacks of SMG amps I have laying around). Flamer vorchas are particularly effective against Reapers.

I've also found survivability isn't really an issue for me, spec bloodlust for health (over melee). You'll have to get used to playing without shields though, but as is already apparent (here on the forums) vorchas are pretty tanky.

6/6/3/5/6

When a good (and that word is key here) Flamer Vorcha sees Reapers, they put on their Trollerskates and go to town. For me that's my Vorcha Soldier specced 6/6/0/6/6. Banshee space magic?? LOLZ

The Krauser wrote...

On my Vorcha Sentinel, I'm packing a Saber I with the piercing mod and extended barrel along with the Reegar Carbine with spare ammo and high caliber barrel. I use the saber for ranged stuff and the Reegar for cqc. I just love melting enemies with it and seeing their bodies melt into a pile of electric ash. Especially on phantoms and pyros.

 

Love the Saber on my Vorcha Sent (my pure weapon Vorcha w/ no Flamer). I hate the Reegar though. I simply can't stand that range limitation. I prefer my shotguns to have at least some mid-rage ability. My favorite gun to combo w/ the Saber currently is the Talon. Claymore and GPS I find are also great choices.

Modifié par mpompeo27, 01 juin 2012 - 09:21 .

[owenbeast]

yeah it could work because on bronze you could snipe enemies and not really have to worry about being shot at so much because of health regen, so you can take your time to line up shots.
also because only one power needs cooldown you could carry a light shotgun as secondary.