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[Critical Exception]

What is the real world country associated to Antiva? Some people say Italy, others say Spain. If I were to judge only according to the accent I would say that certainly is not Italy.

[Razh2211]

Accent is not important. I think it's the closest to medieval Venice. It was a separate state for a time, with highly developed commerce.
Assassinations weren't anything strange for Venice of that time either.

Modifié par Razh2211, 11 décembre 2009 - 03:12 .

[Fleapants]

A merchant nation with a weak goverment heavily influenced by powergroups screams Italy to me, also, Master Ignacio mentions a place called Rialto, which is a part of modern day Venice.
The names of some antivians seems a bit more spanish than italian though, so it's probably influenced by both.

Modifié par Fleapants, 11 décembre 2009 - 03:21 .

[IndomitusRex]

Zevran sprinkles a bit of Italian into his responses, especially when you have high influence with him. The descriptions he gave of Antiva always made it seem a Middle-Eastern city.

[Forsakerr]

i think David Gaider mentioned once it was based on Venice so Razh and Fleapants are right

[OutsiderSubtype]

Yeah definitely medieval/renaissance Venice.

[kevinwastaken]

Can't wait until we meet the Anderfels.



"Orlais surrenders!"

[marioflag]

Antiva is highly inspirated from Italian region Calabria. Calabria inspired Bioware because this land has a really strong criminal organization or mafia called "n'drangheta" with weak institutions....Bioware even decided to call this region Calabria but later made up their mind.



In other words Antiva resemble some sort of failed country where mafia take over responsibilities which are often proper of central institutions.



Even if there is still a strong mafia in Calabria clearly in this Italian region things are not so bad as in Antiva

[LunSei Sleidee]

WHAT so Zevran is actually italian like me??? Then why didn't they give him an italian accent?? When I speak english, I sound nothing like him!

I always thought Antiva was Spain. :/

Wait... but then... if Antiva is Italy, then where is the Tevinter Imperium???

[David Gaider]

Yes, Antiva is a fictionalized version of a medieval Italian city-state like Venice. It's not a perfect comparison by any means, but then none of the Thedas nations are meant to be. They're inspired by real-world history, but that's where it remains.

No, we did not use an Italian accent for Antiva.

And marioflag is half-right in that the original name for Antiva was Calabria. But only because we liked the sound of it. If there are any further similarities between the real Calabria and the Antiva that we have now it's purely coincidental.

Modifié par David Gaider, 11 décembre 2009 - 04:26 .

[Gracknug]

LunSei Sleidee wrote...

WHAT so Zevran is actually italian like me??? Then why didn't they give him an italian accent?? When I speak english, I sound nothing like him!

I always thought Antiva was Spain. :/

Wait... but then... if Antiva is Italy, then where is the Tevinter Imperium???

Tevinter is suposed to be like Byzantine Empire as far as i know

[Andronic0s]

The Tevinter are based on the Eastern Roman Empire during the middle Ages aka Byzantine Empire, as for spanish in DA perhaps Navarrans are based of spain? after all there is a region on spain called Navarra and since all is mentioned of them is that they killed a lot of dragons it could be possible

Modifié par Andronic0s, 11 décembre 2009 - 04:31 .

[Bibdy]

Italians with Spanish accents? THIS IS MADNESS!

[Loregothe]

I would have gone with the "or what?" option.



It is a fantasy land. Let's not over-analyze fiction.

[LunSei Sleidee]

Shame though. If Leliana's accent is correctly french, and Ferelden's accent is correctly english.... why can't Antiva's accent be correctly italian, too? I like to make comparisons between the fictional countries of Dragon Age and the real countries, but I just will never be able to picture Antivans as italians if they have the "wrong" accent.



Is the Tevinter Imperium spread through many countries? I always thought it sounded much more italian-ish (as in the roman empire) than Antiva. Or maybe it's because its name sounds like latin.



Are Par Vollen and Seheron inspired by which areas?

[David Gaider]

LunSei Sleidee wrote...
Shame though. If Leliana's accent is correctly french, and Ferelden's accent is correctly english.... why can't Antiva's accent be correctly italian, too?

Ferelden is roughly inspired by Scotland. Are you suggesting that they should all be speaking with a Scottish accent?

It's not our intention for you to think "Antiva is Italy", "Orlais is France", etc. Many of the Thedas countries have a blend of influences... if you insist on putting them into strict categories, you're going to be disappointed.

Are Par Vollen and Seheron inspired by which areas?

It's not. The qunari as a people are one part Middle Eastern culture (as they compared to medieval European cultures), one part Mongol horde and one part Borg. Par Vollen is where they live.

[KariTR]

IndomitusRex wrote...

Zevran sprinkles a bit of Italian into his responses, especially when you have high influence with him. The descriptions he gave of Antiva always made it seem a Middle-Eastern city.

*Nods* I went just a little bit dizzy when he called my PC "bellissimo"

[El Codge]

David Gaider wrote...

Ferelden is roughly inspired by Scotland. Are you suggesting that they should all be speaking with a Scottish accent?

Loghain speaking like Rab C, Nesbitt would have been awesome.

You could have had Sean Connery as Duncan, Ewan Macgregor as Alistair etc.

You've clearly missed a trick there.

[LunSei Sleidee]

David Gaider wrote...


Ferelden is roughly inspired by Scotland. Are you suggesting that they should all be speaking with a Scottish accent?

It's not our intention for you to think "Antiva is Italy", "Orlais is France", etc. Many of the Thedas countries have a blend of influences... if you insist on putting them into strict categories, you're going to be disappointed.

Yes, I know. I guess I was just very surprised that there have been italian influences in the invention of Antiva (wasn't it initially going to be called Calabria? Can't get any more obvious than that!), and that I didn't even notice it, and thus slightly disappointed that I couldn't get to hear an italian accent as a consequence.

Are Par Vollen and Seheron inspired by which areas?

David Gaider wrote...
It's not. The qunari as a people are one part Middle Eastern culture (as they compared to medieval European cultures), one part Mongol horde and one part Borg. Par Vollen is where they live.

I see!
This may sound a little offtopic, but may I ask something that, as a student of linguistics, has been bothering me for quite a while: how was the qunari language invented? I can assure you that phonetically it sounds really.... plausible. I keep wondering how it was created or if it was inspired by an existing idiom that I don't know.

[TheGreenLion]

From the extremely small description of Antiva and Zev's accent, he makes it sound more middle-eastern. I may be mistaken but there's a part where he says "Antiva is a jewel in the sand." or something like that. Everybody who was anybody back then so to speak, had spies and assassins but if it points to Calabria, they had even more of that going on. I look and listen to Zev, and his over-all character screams "Assassin's Creed" kinda guy.



The Imperium could be considered Roman-esque maybe? They had no problems with slavery for one and it is labeled like it is a great empire...perhaps it could even point to the Byzantine empire which I think evolved from the Roman empire when they had floods of barbarians hammering them left and right (Atila the Hun for one) and basically forced them eastward, cutting their previous empire in half or maybe more.

[TheMufflon]

David Gaider wrote...

It's not. The qunari as a people are one part Middle Eastern culture (as they compared to medieval European cultures), one part Mongol horde and one part Borg. Par Vollen is where they live.

I wonder if that means Par Vollen is a huge, cubic yurt with minarets.

[LunSei Sleidee]

TheMufflon wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

It's not. The qunari as a people are one part Middle Eastern culture (as they compared to medieval European cultures), one part Mongol horde and one part Borg. Par Vollen is where they live.

I wonder if that means Par Vollen is a huge, cubic yurt with minarets.

Yeah, somehow this is how I imagine the place, too....

[Jayce]

David Gaider wrote...

LunSei Sleidee wrote...
Shame though. If Leliana's accent is correctly french, and Ferelden's accent is correctly english.... why can't Antiva's accent be correctly italian, too?

Ferelden is roughly inspired by Scotland. Are you suggesting that they should all be speaking with a Scottish accent?

It's not our intention for you to think "Antiva is Italy", "Orlais is France", etc. Many of the Thedas countries have a blend of influences... if you insist on putting them into strict categories, you're going to be disappointed.

Are Par Vollen and Seheron inspired by which areas?

It's not. The qunari as a people are one part Middle Eastern culture (as they compared to medieval European cultures), one part Mongol horde and one part Borg. Par Vollen is where they live.

David, that leads me to ask, was some of the pronunciations of the names deliberately skewed from normal? I'm thinking particularly of the Irish names Like Eamon and Niall...

[kevinwastaken]

I like to think that Ferelden has its own accent, independent of any real world comparisons. Sure it sounds English, but it's not- it's Ferelden.

[andybuiadh]

David Gaider wrote...


Ferelden is roughly inspired by Scotland. Are you suggesting that they should all be speaking with a Scottish accent?

I'm now insulted that Sten thinks Ferelden smells like wet dog!

'Mon the Scots!