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Antiva - Spain or what?


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ToJKa1

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When talking to master Ignacio (who is an Antivan too, right?), i got a very strong russian impression from the way he talked. Maybe it's because i live next to the border of Russia that causes me think all shady men as russian  :D

Still, Zevran gave no such impression.

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I'm wondering about Nevarra - the name and the Dragon Hunters ring a Spanish vibe (Navarre and the Conquistadors), but the Codex describes elaborate tomb complexes, with vast gardens and burial rituals. This reminds me both of the ancient Egyptians and the Thracians.



Can't wait to see Khal Sharok, though. :)

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David Gaider wrote...

LunSei Sleidee wrote...
Shame though. If Leliana's accent is correctly french, and Ferelden's accent is correctly english.... why can't Antiva's accent be correctly italian, too?

Ferelden is roughly inspired by Scotland. Are you suggesting that they should all be speaking with a Scottish accent?

It's not our intention for you to think "Antiva is Italy", "Orlais is France", etc. Many of the Thedas countries have a blend of influences... if you insist on putting them into strict categories, you're going to be disappointed.

Are Par Vollen and Seheron inspired by which areas?

It's not. The qunari as a people are one part Middle Eastern culture (as they compared to medieval European cultures), one part Mongol horde and one part Borg. Par Vollen is where they live.


That's very surprising. I was assumed that Ferelden was inspired by Medieval England, not Scotland specifically (especially after having been invaded by the French/Normans... uh, I mean the Orlesians :P )

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Is it only I that think Cesar and Master Ignacio have more of a russian accent?

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Ferelden always gave off a Scottish/Irish/Welsh vibe to me, especially in terms of the artwork, names, and the dogs (this is especially Welsh). The elves work into this as well as the fall of the empire to the humans kinda parallels the defeat of the Tuatha Dé Danann by the sons of Mil in Irish mythology, though their current status is more reminiscent of that of the Jewish Ghettos of the Middle Ages.

I kinda like DAO's take on the dwarves more than anything else...never really saw them portrayed as master politicians before but I like it.

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David Gaider wrote...

The qunari as a people are one part Middle Eastern culture (as they compared to medieval European cultures), one part Mongol horde and one part Borg. Par Vollen is where they live.


Realy? hmm i allways thought sten where a Viking (of some sort) Being that Sten is a scandinavian name and hes biger then the rest of the charachters.

And he says that the land he comes from is allways trying to kill them also a link to what used to be scandinaivan.
And becuse he sayd its up north and well the more north you go the colder it gets.....so is the Dao world upside down?

Allways thought it was wierd he was black ....so that kinda bursts the idea of him being scandinavian
And a dev says that hes from a midle easters culture allso does it so :lol:

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Gliese wrote...

Is it only I that think Cesar and Master Ignacio have more of a russian accent?

Nope, they do have Russian accents. I found that odd as well since they claim to be Antivan, really confused me.

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hietala95 wrote...




And he says that the land he comes from is allways trying to kill them also a link to what used to be scandinaivan.
And becuse he sayd its up north and well the more north you go the colder it gets.....so is the Dao world upside down?



Actually, yes. :P The DAO world is, in fact, upside down. Iif I recall, there was a topic showing how the DAO world is basically Europe, turned upside down.




vocalemuse wrote...

Gliese wrote...

Is it only I that think Cesar and Master Ignacio have more of a russian accent?

Nope, they do have Russian accents. I found that odd as well since they claim to be Antivan, really confused me.



Oh good, I was afraid to mention that because I thought "I must be stupid to hear them having russian accents, they can't have them...". But I'm not the only one!

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It's Spitaly :)

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I hope to see one day a country of elves in the serie.

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Damar Stiehl

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I found the name "Niall" an amusing nod, but only because I am playing Space Wolves right now.



Njall the Stormcaller is a major character in the army (a really awesome Rune Priest), and the name Njall in general pertains to Njáll Þorgeirsson of an Icelandic saga.

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Lucy Glitter

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Ignacio doesn't have a russian accent... it's a spanish dialect imho... in no way does that sound russian to me.

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 12 décembre 2009 - 11:19 .


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vocalemuse

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

Ignacio doesn't have a russian accent... it's a spanish dialect imho... in no way does that sound russian to me.

Huh, really? Well maybe it is then... it sounded really Russian to me though. xD

As for Ferelden being based on Scotland, that explains the awesome Braveheart like speech by Alistair. Loved it! <3

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johngaltjr

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So is orzammar the United States?

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Andronic0s wrote...

The Tevinter are based on the Eastern Roman Empire during the middle Ages aka Byzantine Empire, as for spanish in DA perhaps Navarrans are based of spain? after all there is a region on spain called Navarra and since all is mentioned of them is that they killed a lot of dragons it could be possible


Navarra was an independent reign not spain neither france, with its own language (basque) and culture, right now it is divided, the high navarra is in spain and the low navarra in france.
Spain didn´t exist in that time. Other independent reigns (Castilla and aragon) military conquered navarra and other nations of europe, asia and america and formed spain imposing Castilla`s language aka spanish). Google: Basque Country.

Modifié par izariluneh, 12 décembre 2009 - 05:23 .


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izariluneh

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izariluneh wrote...

Andronic0s wrote...

The Tevinter are based on the Eastern Roman Empire during the middle Ages aka Byzantine Empire, as for spanish in DA perhaps Navarrans are based of spain? after all there is a region on spain called Navarra and since all is mentioned of them is that they killed a lot of dragons it could be possible


Navarra was an independent reign not spain neither france, with its own language (basque) and culture, right now it is divided, the high navarra is in spain and the low navarra in france.
Spain didn´t exist in that time. Other independent reigns (Castilla and aragon) military conquered navarra and other nations of europe, asia and america and formed spain imposing Castilla`s language aka spanish), france did their part conquering north navarre. Google: Basque Country.



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It bothers me when people read deeply into names, try to find influences, and all that. Just seems like making fantasy and reality/history the same thing, and I don't think that's the point. Some even criticise the more creative bits; elven adaptive genes, for example. It also bothers me when people look at fantasy settings as all being the same, just because there are similarities. I'm reasonably sure that less people would have complained about there being no half-elves, if it wasn't for other settings like Forgotten Realms including them...

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El Codge wrote...

...You could have had Sean Connery as Duncan, Ewan Macgregor as Alistair...


Holy ****.

That would have been awesome.

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Zev reminds me mostly of Spain. The way he talks, the embroideries on his gala uniform. Though the description of the Antivan civilization matches Venice a little more.



Orlais is very clearly inspired by France, no doubt there.



Ferelden gives me more of a Germanic than an Anglo or Gaelic feel, though I can't put my finger on it just yet. But I'd say Germanic with a hint of Scandinavian to it.



Orzamar feels more Anglo and Gaelic, though also not exactly so.

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Antiva is based on Italy? Well, nice job Bioware... Castillo and Velasco (dragon age II) are spanish surnames, their characters look like and speak like spaniards... but now you tell me they are supposed to be "italian-based"?

If Antiva is supposed to be based on Venice, please use italian surnames and accents, like you do on Orlais and Ferelden, THAT would make sense.

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Ignacio definitely speaks with a Russian inflection/cadence if not an outright accent. I also heard traces of a Russian accent in the first conversation with Zev and was quite surprised by "Si amore" and "bellisimo." lol.

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eltiojul have you read anything that has been said? They are *loosely* based, even *inspired* by countries, and to quote the dev David Gaider "It's not our intention for you to think "Antiva is Italy", "Orlais is France", etc. Many of the Thedas countries have a blend of influences... if you insist on putting them into strict categories, you're going to be disappointed."

Nice necro btw, havent read this before and it was interesting.

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SRY BOSS BEING A KNOB

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Antiva definitely represents Spain, at least linguistically.

I noticed that the accent of the Antivans in DA:O sounded very Spanish (as it is spoken in Spain and not Latin America)

I am currently playing DA2 and at one point the merchant Vincento says the Spanish word "maldición" where the "c" is pronounced like an English "th". Additionally, the "ó" was displayed as well in the subtitles so it doesn't get more Spanish than this.