Ranchi use color to discibe sound I hope you know.Mobius-Silent wrote...
IndridColdx wrote...
they can easily, and REASONABLY, be described as oily shadows
Man you are far gone.
Bioware call them "smoke" the _art_ people labled the particle emitters as smoke. The only "oily" thing here is a bunch of people who really _really_ didn't "get" the Rachni
Question, if the Rachni are a reliable source for visual discriptions of indoctrination, where are the "yellow" and "sour" parts?
Mobius-Silent wrote...
IndridColdx wrote...
they can easily, and REASONABLY, be described as oily shadows
Man you are far gone.
Bioware call them "smoke" the _art_ people labled the particle emitters as smoke. The only "oily" thing here is a bunch of people who really _really_ didn't "get" the Rachni
Question, if the Rachni are a reliable source for visual discriptions of indoctrination, where are the "yellow" and "sour" parts?
squee365 wrote...
Whats the purpose of the dreams IF the IT is false?
Shallow guilt trips for shepard?
Modifié par jijeebo, 02 juin 2012 - 01:30 .
And that when I stop reading. You think anyone will take what you said serious they when you say want the game calls it is wrong......The game is the main score of everything. You can't say it's wrong.jijeebo wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Those even show that it was a hallucination aswell asthe star child. Whith TIM controling Shepared with indoctriantion and person has to be indoctrianted first for that to happen.... What let is a question of when the indoctriantion happened .jijeebo wrote...
I'm asking for proof and you're giving me assumptions based on in-game events that haven't even happened yet?
None of the ME3 contact counts because it hasn't happened yet, and ME1 & ME2 don't have much contact at all...
Try again.
- TIM indoctrinating is an assumption regardless of what the game file called the effects because it isn't covered in the game. It also isn't relevant to Shepard 3 months prior.
Do you understand that indocrtination first attacks and controls the limbic system, the part of the brain pdst comes from?jijeebo wrote...
squee365 wrote...
Whats the purpose of the dreams IF the IT is false?
Shallow guilt trips for shepard?
Yes.
Stress and survivors guilt. It's contrived and forced but it's part of the narrative that tries to show how Shepard is being affected by the war.
dreman9999 wrote...
And that when I stop reading. You think anyone will take what you said serious they when you say want the game calls it is wrong......The game is the main score of everything. You can't say it's wrong.jijeebo wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Those even show that it was a hallucination aswell asthe star child. Whith TIM controling Shepared with indoctriantion and person has to be indoctrianted first for that to happen.... What let is a question of when the indoctriantion happened .jijeebo wrote...
I'm asking for proof and you're giving me assumptions based on in-game events that haven't even happened yet?
None of the ME3 contact counts because it hasn't happened yet, and ME1 & ME2 don't have much contact at all...
Try again.
- TIM indoctrinating is an assumption regardless of what the game file called the effects because it isn't covered in the game. It also isn't relevant to Shepard 3 months prior.
No. Don't replace you being ignorant and unreasonable with me being far gone. If you showed a person who knows nothing about the ME universe and asked that person, could these be desribed as oily shadows? They would probably answer yes. As I'm sure some would call them smoke as well. That is completely REASONABLE.Mobius-Silent wrote...
IndridColdx wrote...
they can easily, and REASONABLY, be described as oily shadows
Man you are far gone.
Bioware call them "smoke" the _art_ people labled the particle emitters as smoke. The only "oily" thing here is a bunch of people who really _really_ didn't "get" the Rachni
Question, if the Rachni are a reliable source for visual discriptions of indoctrination, where are the "yellow" and "sour" parts?
dreman9999 wrote...
Yes, we do...It clear based on what stated in the cerberus base and sacturay.
Cerberus figures out how to us indoctriantion for themselves, they use it on there troops and to get more troops to fight for them, the study it more and learn to control husk, they find that what left to it full power is a power source and what the crucible to be used as that power sourse and then implant TIM with the tech from Sactuary.
And some how it's not indoctrination?...Even the games code calls what used in the scene reaper power.
Every symtom of indotrination comes up.
Even Shepard referse to it and say"You can control me but it doesn't mean you can control the reapers".
How on earth can it be something else when TIM was tring so hard to understand anjd us indoctrination.
The fact that Shepard is shown to be indoctrianted proves it. And the fact the child child apears in his image proves it.jijeebo wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
And that when I stop reading. You think anyone will take what you said serious they when you say want the game calls it is wrong......The game is the main score of everything. You can't say it's wrong.jijeebo wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Those even show that it was a hallucination aswell asthe star child. Whith TIM controling Shepared with indoctriantion and person has to be indoctrianted first for that to happen.... What let is a question of when the indoctriantion happened .jijeebo wrote...
I'm asking for proof and you're giving me assumptions based on in-game events that haven't even happened yet?
None of the ME3 contact counts because it hasn't happened yet, and ME1 & ME2 don't have much contact at all...
Try again.
- TIM indoctrinating is an assumption regardless of what the game file called the effects because it isn't covered in the game. It also isn't relevant to Shepard 3 months prior.
Cute, stop reading because you know I was about to ask the same question I've asked you EIGHT times and you've yet to answer.
Try again, prove the kid isn't real on Earth. 9th time.
dreman9999 wrote...
Do you understand that indocrtination first attacks and controls the limbic system, the part of the brain pdst comes from?jijeebo wrote...
squee365 wrote...
Whats the purpose of the dreams IF the IT is false?
Shallow guilt trips for shepard?
Yes.
Stress and survivors guilt. It's contrived and forced but it's part of the narrative that tries to show how Shepard is being affected by the war.
dreman9999 wrote...
The fact that Shepard is shown to be indoctrianted proves it. And the fact the child child apears in his image proves it.jijeebo wrote...
Cute, stop reading because you know I was about to ask the same question I've asked you EIGHT times and you've yet to answer.
Try again, prove the kid isn't real on Earth. 9th time.
Modifié par jijeebo, 02 juin 2012 - 01:35 .
dreman9999 wrote...
*snup*
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Modifié par Tom Lehrer, 02 juin 2012 - 01:37 .
Erield wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Yes, we do...It clear based on what stated in the cerberus base and sacturay.
Cerberus figures out how to us indoctriantion for themselves, they use it on there troops and to get more troops to fight for them, the study it more and learn to control husk, they find that what left to it full power is a power source and what the crucible to be used as that power sourse and then implant TIM with the tech from Sactuary.
And some how it's not indoctrination?...Even the games code calls what used in the scene reaper power.
Every symtom of indotrination comes up.
Even Shepard referse to it and say"You can control me but it doesn't mean you can control the reapers".
How on earth can it be something else when TIM was tring so hard to understand anjd us indoctrination.
First off, Control does not equal Indoctrination. Yes, I'm arguing semantics with you, because you were arguing semantics about the husk/zombie analogy.
Second, if every symptom of Indoctrination comes up during the TIM scene--where does it go? They're still trying to Indoctrinate Shepard, right? SO, how come the symptoms are gone? Why are there no symptoms before that? According to the Sanctuary (or was it Cerberus base? Sorry, I forget now) data, the 'voices' appear to be the first symptom of Indoctrination. Why does Shepard never hear them, except during the TIM scene, if he's being Indoctrinated the entire time?
Finally, how does any of this have anything to do with whether or not the kid at the beginning of the game is an hallucination?
IndridColdx wrote...
No. Don't replace you being ignorant and unreasonable with me being far gone. If you showed a person who knows nothing about the ME universe and asked that person, could these be desribed as oily shadows? They would probably answer yes. As I'm sure some would call them smoke as well. That is completely REASONABLE.
.
Tom Lehrer wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
*snup*
In sacturay we learn that they learn how to control husks. Husks are full of Reaper tech Shepard and Anderson are reaper tech free. Indotrination controls the mind any way and TIM clearly has not influence over that.
In fact according to the game script TIM is using the power of his mojo to control them.
Modifié par IndridColdx, 02 juin 2012 - 01:44 .
Sal86 wrote...
Given the choice of any word to describe the 'dream figures', I would probably say shadowy, not oily or smoky. However, smoky does make more sense in the context of the dream with the blackened trees and the kid burning up. There's also the way they sort of 'flicker' like a flame.
Modifié par squee365, 02 juin 2012 - 01:42 .
Mobius-Silent wrote...
IndridColdx wrote...
they can easily, and REASONABLY, be described as oily shadows
Man you are far gone.
Bioware call them "smoke" the _art_ people labled the particle emitters as smoke. The only "oily" thing here is a bunch of people who really _really_ didn't "get" the Rachni
Question, if the Rachni are a reliable source for visual discriptions of indoctrination, where are the "yellow" and "sour" parts?
zomg you were right there was a fire there is no way they can be oily shadows
squee365 wrote...
Not only has the ending got people speculating stupidly (because its stupidly vague),
It has people going at each others throats. Is this what casey and mac wanted?
Its truly embarrassing. I'm about to go back to Dark Souls -.-
Ok then...Where was this ptsd when...jijeebo wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Do you understand that indocrtination first attacks and controls the limbic system, the part of the brain pdst comes from?jijeebo wrote...
squee365 wrote...
Whats the purpose of the dreams IF the IT is false?
Shallow guilt trips for shepard?
Yes.
Stress and survivors guilt. It's contrived and forced but it's part of the narrative that tries to show how Shepard is being affected by the war.
Y'know something else that causes ptsd? STRESS.
Good God stop throwing round the limbic system like any moment that involves it is automatic indoc.
Modifié par dreman9999, 02 juin 2012 - 01:48 .
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