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[HellishFiend]

DarthSpot wrote...

SpiffyNova wrote...

DarthSpot wrote...

here we go

www.youtube.com/watch

Holy crap. Your armor is made of marshmellows and your sheilds are powered by a coulple of AA batteries.

its called Fitness 6 + cyclonic modulator 3

Even without seeing a comparison video, you can plainly see that he isnt able to take as much punishment as he should with 
Fitness 6 + cyclonic modulator 3.  

[UKStory135]

The Phoenixes are really squishy.

[underm1nd]

Yeah the phoenix characters have alot less health and shields than what the game says. Right now the phoenix adept dies easier than geth infiltrators. I guess phoenixs fitness is bugged and they dont benefit from points in the fitness tree.....

[mistervirginia]

yep, i spec'd out a Melee build. i think i'm a lvl 16 now. difficult to stay alive. i'll keep an eye on balance changes and leave this particular guy alone. hopefully i'll get someone else new soon.

[SpiffyNova]

HellishFiend wrote...

DarthSpot wrote...

SpiffyNova wrote...

DarthSpot wrote...

here we go

www.youtube.com/watch

Holy crap. Your armor is made of marshmellows and your sheilds are powered by a coulple of AA batteries.

its called Fitness 6 + cyclonic modulator 3

Even without seeing a comparison video, you can plainly see that he isnt able to take as much punishment as he should with 
Fitness 6 + cyclonic modulator 3.  

Yea. My Asari Adept can take more punishment than that in gold and she only has 4 points in fitness.
I think at full health (700\\700) I can take the full 3 shot from the prime and still have that last sliver of health. No equiptment.

[Ender1221]

mistervirginia wrote...

yep, i spec'd out a Melee build. i think i'm a lvl 16 now. difficult to stay alive. i'll keep an eye on balance changes and leave this particular guy alone. hopefully i'll get someone else new soon.

This is my problem.  The PV is the only new character I unlocked after 1.5 million credits.  I really want to try out something new, but the Vanguard is so squishy that I have to play him like an adept.  *Sigh*

[Aaron360]

I just got the adept last night in a psp right before I was shutting down. Well I decided to play a round, my Justicar was level 17 at the time so I added powers to him and popped into a silver...I did pretty good until I started getting closer to enemies and immediately noticed his shield was being ripped away pretty fast. I don't have the vanguard yet so I can't compare, but it seems the adepts shields are screwy too. Oh and I need to mention I had a Cyclonic II and the Stronghold 1 equipped. First the Justicar doesn't get fixed in the latest update and now this? bah!

[david_demos484]

HellishFiend wrote...

Hmm, this would be very discouraging if true. I like the ex-cerb vanguard, and judging by the fact that Justicar's offensive passive rank 5 is still bugged, this would probably take forever to get fixed.

The AJ is bugged? Which one the headshot or the power damage increase? This is one of my favorite classes; this is heart breaking if true. Do we have confirmation on this???

Modifié par david_demos484, 01 juin 2012 - 04:20 .

[IndigoVitare]

I thought it was just all that Vorcha I'd been playing making me lose perspective...

[Ender1221]

david_demos484 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Hmm, this would be very discouraging if true. I like the ex-cerb vanguard, and judging by the fact that Justicar's offensive passive rank 5 is still bugged, this would probably take forever to get fixed.

The AJ is bugged? Which one the headshot or the power damage increase? This is one of my favorite classes; this is heart breaking if true. Do we have confirmation on this???

The power damage doesn't work on Rank 5.  It breaks my heart too.

[Dashmundo]

This would explain a lot, with the Adept counterpart as well. Is fitness bugged for both new humans?

[HellishFiend]

david_demos484 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Hmm, this would be very discouraging if true. I like the ex-cerb vanguard, and judging by the fact that Justicar's offensive passive rank 5 is still bugged, this would probably take forever to get fixed.

The AJ is bugged? Which one the headshot or the power damage increase? This is one of my favorite classes; this is heart breaking if true. Do we have confirmation on this???

The +15% power damage and force is bugged. You can confirm it yourself by doing a comparison of your power damage and force before and after taking the evolution. And yes, it's sad.

[david_demos484]

HellishFiend wrote...

david_demos484 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Hmm, this would be very discouraging if true. I like the ex-cerb vanguard, and judging by the fact that Justicar's offensive passive rank 5 is still bugged, this would probably take forever to get fixed.

The AJ is bugged? Which one the headshot or the power damage increase? This is one of my favorite classes; this is heart breaking if true. Do we have confirmation on this???

The +15% power damage and force is bugged. You can confirm it yourself by doing a comparison of your power damage and force before and after taking the evolution. And yes, it's sad.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! dangit now I have to respec. Do we know why this was not fixed in the patch?

[Elecbender]

IndigoVitare wrote...

I thought it was just all that Vorcha I'd been playing making me lose perspective...

Yeah.

I didn't notice a sharp decrease in survivability just because I assumed every character that has average health/shields took this much damage and quite frankly I really didn't see that much of a difference.

Here's how I look at the class: kill or be killed.  No middle ground.

[Ender1221]

david_demos484 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

david_demos484 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Hmm, this would be very discouraging if true. I like the ex-cerb vanguard, and judging by the fact that Justicar's offensive passive rank 5 is still bugged, this would probably take forever to get fixed.

The AJ is bugged? Which one the headshot or the power damage increase? This is one of my favorite classes; this is heart breaking if true. Do we have confirmation on this???

The +15% power damage and force is bugged. You can confirm it yourself by doing a comparison of your power damage and force before and after taking the evolution. And yes, it's sad.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! dangit now I have to respec. Do we know why this was not fixed in the patch?

Who knows.  Why didn't they fix the ULM like they said they would?  Why didn't they fix the Vanguard glitch?  Why didn't they fix the Op pack glitch?  Who is John Galt?  (+10 Literary Snobbery Points if you get the reference.LOL)

[Mozts]

Oohh great, another broken thing. I'm downloading BF3 again. They actually patched that game you know.

[inko1nsiderate]

xslick504x wrote...

all of this.....

the playstyle of the phoenix vanguard mixed with these issues made me just put the all melee for fitness with the berserker mode III.

if i'm going out i'm going to @ least do some damage first.

the lack of heavy melee after charge really sets him back anyway.

I am not sure what you are talking about.  On any difficulty besides gold you can charge, heavy melee, then smash and kill even shielded badguys.  As long as your cooldown is near 200%.  If not, you can get a weapon that staggers (like Carnifax) and do the same rundown with a tap of the trigger in between heavy melee and smash.  It is a pretty effetive combo, even on Gold, the problem is on gold you die half way through smash because your shields magically disappeared. But it works great if you aren't taking fire from anywhere (so not that often in gold).

Modifié par inko1nsiderate, 01 juin 2012 - 04:55 .

[mandalorian sun]

Atlas shrugged. A well written but completely unrealistic take on life and business. It was a good reference though. I also have noticed the squishiness of these characters, i die all the time on SILVER before i can even finish a smash animation, and i'm talking with full points in fitness and shield gate still up. I know the animation is long, but if i have half my shields and all my health, and i'm dead before i can roll to cover from the animation, that's a problem, especially when i didn't want to take him into gold until i have his build structure down. This is mad disappointing if it is true, i really really want to like the ex-cerb, they look so cool

[ElectroNeonPanda]

Are people noticing this across all enemy ranges? I ask because the geth are considerably overtuned since their recent buff. My shields on SE with maxed shield and ED shield bonus choices are dropping as fast as the guy's in the video.

[kyles3]

Ender1221 wrote...

Who knows.  Why didn't they fix the ULM like they said they would?  Why didn't they fix the Vanguard glitch?  Why didn't they fix the Op pack glitch?  Who is John Galt?  (+10 Literary Snobbery Points if you get the reference.LOL)

Most literary snobs would give the reference -10 points, I'm afraid; poor Ayn Rand isn't particularly well-liked by your average literary type--and that's putting it mildly. If there's such a thing as Liberterian Literary Snobs, then you'd get like +100 points and they'd bake you a cake.

[inko1nsiderate]

Ender1221 wrote...



Who knows.  Why didn't they fix the ULM like they said they would?  Why didn't they fix the Vanguard glitch?  Why didn't they fix the Op pack glitch?  Who is John Galt?  (+10 Literary Snobbery Points if you get the reference.LOL)

Literrary Snobbery points for John Galt?  It isn't exactly an obscure book.  A ton of people I know read it in High School.

Anyway, this bug sucks.

[Ender1221]

inko1nsiderate wrote...

Ender1221 wrote...



Who knows.  Why didn't they fix the ULM like they said they would?  Why didn't they fix the Vanguard glitch?  Why didn't they fix the Op pack glitch?  Who is John Galt?  (+10 Literary Snobbery Points if you get the reference.LOL)

Literrary Snobbery points for John Galt?  It isn't exactly an obscure book.  A ton of people I know read it in High School.

Anyway, this bug sucks.

Wow!  I wish I had gone to your High School.  I've never seen it on a required reading list for anything other than college.  Anyway....  Fix the bug!

[Bhatair]

Well I'll be damned. I thought it seemed like I was dropping kind of fast playing the vanguard. I've been trying to learn the class since the RNG 'blessed' me with three of the same card. I do really like the style, the whips are just awesome and smash is really a high risk high reward skill (just high reward if you can put a wall or something between you and your target, using it on a brute with full health in silver and detonating someones reave took him to 3-4 bars of health, awesome).

I thought I had been doing something wrong, maybe it's time to just spec full melee damage if this is true since charge -> heavy melee is pretty much this classes bread and butter.

[kr3g]

I notice it as well. On bronze single swarmer take out 20% of shields. Even with cyclonic modulator 3, he die extremly quick. Human novaguard laugh at my phoenix.

And melee damage is bugged as well, not to mention its very weak. I can't even kill a husk with melee, wtf is this?

[Amftron]

I had a quick run out on Bronze with the Vanguard earlier, Solo in a public lobby cause i couldn't be bothered to wait for other people (it tends to fill up by the end of wave 3, and if not, hey, i'm a Vanguard, and it's Bronze)....

Full fitness spec.....

I didn't make it past wave one. His shields are paper thin.

And before anyone says it, i know i'm not the best player in the world, but i can solo bronze. He shouldn't be squishy.