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[Major Durza]

soulscore wrote...

Enhanced wrote...

It's not op for any class except infiltrators (like most weapons in the game). So, they should nerf infilrators not the weapon.

why just infiltrators? how about we nerf your prefered signature move also for balance?

How about make the cloak hide you instead of making it a mere damage buff?  Sounds like what a infiltrator should be.

[JGDD]

The more I use this weapon the more I realize there's really only one flaw with it. In general, it is not overpowered even when used by an infiltrator. The problem with it is the aerial bursts. It should not detonate the rounds just because it came within X meters of target. It should detonate on contact. That tweak right there would still make it useable for any class without being stupid easy way of taking down enemies. Like it is now.

It could retain the SR status, which makes sense, and be still useful for infiltrators and their perks. But also it wouldn't nerf it into the ground for other classes should they choose to wield it instead of something more traditional for those characters. As it is now I know it works almost as well on a Salarian engineer as it does on an infiltrator. The ED debuffs from the SE are pretty well suited to it. I'm sure the GE with sniper rifle perk would be about the same but have yet to test it that way.

This simple adjustment as a compromise would allow it fit many roles yet without being an over the top nerfwhack.

[Jackums]

Arkley wrote...

If you can use the Krysae on an Infiltrator and not see how it's overpowered, you're bad at using the Krysae.

[BooBooZX]

If this hasn't been brought up already

weight 2.5-2.0
BW1 514.1
BW10 642.6
Ultra rare

weight 2-1.4
Krysae1 531.2 +AoE
Krysae10 664  +AoE
Rare

Nothing strange here move along.

Modifié par BooBooZX, 02 juin 2012 - 12:31 .

[DeathMotion-]

InfamousResult wrote...

DeathMotion- wrote...

See where Im going here?

No, I see what you're saying.
I'm just saying you're really really wrong.

Seriously, anybody with eyes could tell you that you're wrong.

Krysae.
Striker.

I know how they both work,which again.You still don't see what Im saying.Assault rifle ALREADY has an explosive weapon.If you think about it ALL explosive weapons can be abused easily with the combination of proximity mines.This gun ISNT overpowered unless you use infiltrator or increase weapon damage.The user is the cause of that. 

It is NOT because I don't know how to use the krysae right,it's because people increase it's weapon damage in every way possible.

[SoulWeaver]

After toying around with the Krysae on my GI, I decided to try it with a a bunch of soldier and engineer classes. It wan't brilliant at all. In fact, it didn't even feel more powerful than the falcon.
It's the inflitrator that makes it godlike, so if something needs to be nerfed it's the infiltrator's bonus damage...

[molecularman]

Yeah, it's absolutely fine it has the same damage as BW


...except that it's AoE

[Biotic_Warlock]

So a weapon which does Mantis X damage in 1m is not overpowered?

Modifié par Biotic_Warlock, 02 juin 2012 - 06:03 .

[DeathMotion-]

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

So a weapon which does Mantis X damage in 1m is not overpowered?

I can rape the enemies with the javelin X (if I had the X,I only have the VI ) and it'll top this gun off like nothing.

[DeathMotion-]

SoulWeaver wrote...

After toying around with the Krysae on my GI, I decided to try it with a a bunch of soldier and engineer classes. It wan't brilliant at all. In fact, it didn't even feel more powerful than the falcon.
It's the inflitrator that makes it godlike, so if something needs to be nerfed it's the infiltrator's bonus damage...

Yes! At least some people understand what I mean.

[MaxShine]

I have the Krysae X, but I never tried it out, until everybody was screaming how overpowered it is. When I tried it I was a bit disappointed, without sniper rifle amps and ammo consumable it is not that great...

[Daforth]

DeathMotion- wrote...

 Trust me it's not,either that or it got nerfed.Try it without using the infiltrator,I went for the engineer Quarian Male.It takes 2 shots to kill an assault trooper for a sniper rifle.Takes FOREVER to kill an atlas but yes.It's not overpowered.

The infiltrator just gives it an extra boost and if THAT gets nerfed then sorry bioware but you'll have to fix their invisiblity to not be seen when you're solo or very close to the enemies.

Any so called sniper rifle (i.e. long range weapon with scope) that does not need careful aiming to do dmg IS overpovered. Period.

[DeathMotion-]

Daforth wrote...

DeathMotion- wrote...

 Trust me it's not,either that or it got nerfed.Try it without using the infiltrator,I went for the engineer Quarian Male.It takes 2 shots to kill an assault trooper for a sniper rifle.Takes FOREVER to kill an atlas but yes.It's not overpowered.

The infiltrator just gives it an extra boost and if THAT gets nerfed then sorry bioware but you'll have to fix their invisiblity to not be seen when you're solo or very close to the enemies.

Any so called sniper rifle (i.e. long range weapon with scope) that does not need careful aiming to do dmg IS overpovered. Period.

Exactly,People just make this gun overpowered.

[richcz3]

It's mind boggling how people use the Infiltrator class to gague if a weapon is overpowered. How many classes are there? Is the krysae OP on other classes? Not by a long shot.
People really need to stop using the Infiltrator class as a basis to Nerf weapons.

[Leones Maneres]

DeathMotion- wrote...

 Trust me it's not,either that or it got nerfed.Try it without using the infiltrator,I went for the engineer Quarian Male.It takes 2 shots to kill an assault trooper for a sniper rifle.Takes FOREVER to kill an atlas but yes.It's not overpowered.

The infiltrator just gives it an extra boost and if THAT gets nerfed then sorry bioware but you'll have to fix their invisiblity to not be seen when you're solo or very close to the enemies.

I concur.

The "fans" who argue for more nerfing of this gun just hate that some players can make this weapon equal or superior to an Ultra Rare or even Promo level weapon if they use an approriately built character (Turian Soldier, Geth/Salarian Infiltrator, etc).

[DeathMotion-]

I concur.

The "fans" who argue for more nerfing of this gun just hate that some players can make this weapon equal or superior to an Ultra Rare or even Promo level weapon if they use an approriately built character (Turian Soldier, Geth/Salarian Infiltrator, etc).

It's people crying,next thing you know they could say "striker assault rifle needs to get nerfed because it kills enemies faster then the krysae" (it does because I maxed out my damage and raped with it more then the krysae) Or they could say "scorpion needs nerfing because it can be spammed with proximity mine" (ever looked at the Geth Infiltrator with the scorpion and hurricane defeated Cerebrus in Firebase Glacier in 13:42? That.)

So again,This gun isn't overpowered.The user just makes it overpowered when they increase the damage of their charactrs or equip it with the infiltrator.

[N7-RedFox]

Krysae fails miserably with any other character but infiltrator. Other characters are better with other guns. Adepts need quick recharge so they are more suited to pistols. Vanguards are best matched with shotguns for after they use biotic charge. The others, probably assault rifles/pistols combo

[Gordo Schumway]

Guns don't kill people; people kill people. Where is the NRA when you really need it?

[Tankcommander]

Arkley wrote...

If you can use the Krysae on an Infiltrator and not see how it's overpowered, you're bad at using the Krysae.

Not that I want to see it changed or anything, it's just very clearly overpowered and your own inability to use the weapon to its maximum nerf-baiting potential doesn't alter that fact.

I like the thread voting to make it an assault rifle. Course, it would still be much better than all of the ARs and hence be overpowered somewhat, but it wouldn't be stupid powerful like it is now.

[O______O]

It's overpowered. Not so much in the damage (and this was with a sentinel) but in the fact that it does pretty well with damage, has three shots in one clip, and those shots explode. So while i'm sitting back here my Javelin II, i'm getting out performed by guys not because they're better at sniping but because they get more shots off and do AOE damage and have a faster reload.

On Gold there's no shield bleed through meaning the Javelin takes at least two shots to kill anything with shields. The reload is relatively long; by the time i have almost finished reloading my cloak is back again and I use it to cancel.

In the time period it takes me to fire one shot and reload a person with a Krysae will have gotten off at least six shots, and the AoE will have enabled him to get triple the kills I can get with two shots of the Javelin. It's overpowered.

Do I want it nerfed, no. I have the gun. Don't use it but I have it. I'm just saying there's no denying its overpowered.

Modifié par O______O, 03 juin 2012 - 03:52 .

[Draining Dragon]

It three shots Phantoms and stunlocks them.

[MAXinsanity409]

Guys.

The Reegar Carbine is infinitely more overpowered.

Guys.

Seriously, guys.

[PinkysPain]

MAXinsanity409 wrote...
The Reegar Carbine is infinitely more overpowered.

It's less rage inducing though ... it just doesn't have the sustained DPS and ability to clean up mooks at range as the cloak/mine/Krysae combo. A good Reagar player will dominate but leave some targets for everyone else, same with a good sniper with an actual sniper rifle ... a good GI+Krysae just mops up.

PS. the GI was a mistake to begin with, glass cannons almost always end up OP.

Modifié par PinkysPain, 03 juin 2012 - 04:07 .

[Zyrlux]

Geth Infiltrator + Pure Sniper build (Forgo proxi mine, you won't even have time to use it.) + Krysae = The reason it needs to be nerfed.

1 shot on Trash, 2 shots on shielded trash, 3 shots on phantoms and similar trash, roughly 2 bars to atlas shields and 3 to atlas armor per round. This gun, in the hands of someone who can effectively use it's AoE, makes it comparitive to a REGULAR Widow in terms of damage, with the clip size of a black widow. It's AoE is the entire reason it's over powered.

[Immortal Strife]

BooBooZX wrote...

If this hasn't been brought up already

weight 2.5-2.0
BW1 514.1
BW10 642.6
Ultra rare

weight 2-1.4
Krysae1 531.2 +AoE
Krysae10 664  +AoE
Rare

Nothing strange here move along.

Damn...That Krysae is nice! 

*The Black Widow has 100% damage penetration, making the Black Widow better against armor than the Krysae.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 03 juin 2012 - 04:18 .