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Please nerf the Krysae and the Reegar Carbine before this game turns boring


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ol MISAKA lo wrote...

I don't think you realize how much of aslippery-slope that comment actually is.  If you look at it, there are guns in literally every category that render others in their cat. obsolete.  I mean seriously, who uses the Viper?  All I'm saying is that if nerfs were based off that assumption, we'd have a pretty watered-down gameplay experience.


And who uses something else than Krysae? Black Widow? +100 damage, harder to hit, + ton of weight, 10 times more rare. Regular Widow? + +300 damage, half-ton of weight, harder to hit. Snipers had to choose, now Krysae is an absolute win.

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I havent even got these guns yet but i know for a fact how overpowered they are. I really dont want this game to turn into something like CoD when you join and everyones using the same gun because its overpowered, The Reegar carbine isnt so bad because of its short range but the Krysae is frankly ridiculous. You dont even have to hit the target. Please nerf them a bit, so we see more variety.


Lol. HAHAHAHAAHA LMFAO.

BioWare... don't listen to this guy and this is why.

"I don't even have these guns yet but I know."

That statement right there invalidates ANYTHING he has to say on the matter.
He invalidated his own opinion with his opening statement.

Wow. Just wow.

Move along people! Nothing to see here...

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XxTaLoNxX wrote...

gigliani60 wrote...

I havent even got these guns yet but i know for a fact how overpowered they are. I really dont want this game to turn into something like CoD when you join and everyones using the same gun because its overpowered, The Reegar carbine isnt so bad because of its short range but the Krysae is frankly ridiculous. You dont even have to hit the target. Please nerf them a bit, so we see more variety.


Lol. HAHAHAHAAHA LMFAO.

BioWare... don't listen to this guy and this is why.

"I don't even have these guns yet but I know."

That statement right there invalidates ANYTHING he has to say on the matter.
He invalidated his own opinion with his opening statement.

Wow. Just wow.

Move along people! Nothing to see here...


I have both Guns X and agree with op. Move along.

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Please use other weapons and play with like minded people. Leave the rest of us alone.

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So when you say it is OP and should be nerfed. So when did I choose you to represent me and what I think? Right I never did.

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gigliani60 wrote...

I havent even got these guns yet but i know for a fact how overpowered they are. I really dont want this game to turn into something like CoD when you join and everyones using the same gun because its overpowered, The Reegar carbine isnt so bad because of its short range but the Krysae is frankly ridiculous. You dont even have to hit the target. Please nerf them a bit, so we see more variety.


Don´t know if trolling or just stupid :blink: 
Why would a COOP-Game turn into something like COD ?? :bandit:
Why do people complain if they get something, what makes everybodys life on GOLD easier ?? :pinched:
How can someone even complain about a weapon, when they don´t have that said weapon ?? :P

And the BIG SOLUTION at the end of the post is as follows "Please nerf them (??) a bit..." ??? Da Hell ?? :o

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I agree with OP. *points at signature* xD

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Please nerf the Krysae and the Reegar Carbine before this game turns boring


SHUT. THE. HELL. UP.

You have no idea what you're talking about. None. I am so GODDAMNED SICK of seeing every weapon remotely viable turned into uselessness because you feel it "makes the game boring" and "too easy." You don't even have a fraction of the weapons in the game going by your manifest, so you don't even have a basis for comparison.

You guys already killed the Kishock's viability, and that of the Falcon. What's next? You're gonna kill the Geth Plasma Shotgun next? How about the Avenger? People still use that.

If anything, guns in this game need to be brought in line so they're actually.... Y'know... Usable. I'd love to see the Eagle usable, the Geth Pulse Rifle actually brought in-line with other weapons, or automatics made so that they don't handle like the firer has Parkinson's Disease.

Lean over here so I can discipline you.

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Honestly, geth infiltrator with Krysae X is just kill stealing machine. I just played WGG match with one, and noone could get more than half of his points, because he just spammed with it around.

Modifié par Qror_pl, 02 juin 2012 - 02:18 .


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Chromatix wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Chromatix wrote...

Give noob a Krysae and he will win. This weapon takes no skill, brain or experience to win. I hate it.


Because being competitive in a cooperation multiplayer mode is so productive.


If i see Krysae in team i go make tea and suicide for easy credits. Because of what i said. And you know what? I always get credits this way. That's something.


Self centered much?

You go make tea and you get kicked after 2 minutes, which is fitting as you don't contribute jack to the team and all because "he has a krysae!, waaah!".

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Funny how people yell for usable weapons, then get some and yell again because they are supposed to be "too strong"... How about all we get is a BB gun and a pea shooter to use while they buff all enemies to be able to instakill you. The game gets to boring when you actually win, so we need to loose more... Jeez people, unbelievable...

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not sure if OP is trolling or...

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No OP, just no.

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Again, there's like seven threads about this gun. Yet another one is made...

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Leland Gaunt wrote...

Funny how people yell for usable weapons, then get some and yell again because they are supposed to be "too strong"... How about all we get is a BB gun and a pea shooter to use while they buff all enemies to be able to instakill you. The game gets to boring when you actually win, so we need to loose more... Jeez people, unbelievable...


We need to do something to beat hardest level. With Krysae, Claymore and Reegar you just have to close eyes and shoot random directions - you will win.

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I DON'T ENJOY THIS WEAPON SO NOBODY ELSE CAN EITHER

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I don't understand why people are crying about this gun.

First of all, it's a co-op game, so it's not like the gun gives someone a competitive advantage. Someone might use it and end up on top of the scoreboard, but that means nothing. Everyone gets the same amount of XP and credits.

Second of all, if you think it's boring, then don't use it. But you like a ***** when try to decide how other people should play the game. Other people will get bored with it on their own.

Third, why do all guns have to be on par with each other? There's always going to be a gun that's considered better than others. Not all guns are equal. May as well cry about biotic combos too because of how powerful they are. Or make the crappy guns more powerful. Or make Krysae an Ultra-rare, which would be hilarious for the people who complained for a nerf without having it.

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Chromatix wrote...
With Krysae, Claymore and Reegar you just have to close eyes and shoot random directions - you will win. 


No. Just no. Otherwise you don't even have to shoot with GPS or Wraith. Enemies die when they spot either weapon. :whistle:

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I got lvl1 Reegar and I waste Atlases on gold in 3 clips.

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Joukahainen wrote...

Well dont know about overpowered, both weapons have low ammo count and you have to get more ammo after few shots. Also both weapons are good against weaker enemys, but reegar isnt so effective against bigger enemys like atlas/brute etc. Krsya is little bit better against armor but if enemys are too close it doesnt do full damage against enemy. And also have noticed that when trying to kill Ravager with Krysae, you have to shoot all sacks before you can make any damage against Ravager with Krysae.


This statement isn't true, I've seen people solo these enemies on gold with the reeger X, just depends on what you use for attachments. I believe someone already mentioned it, max shredder and spare clip will help that. Again though, it's not something anyone can do, you have to be better than average to do well consistantly with the gun, but it does explain why so many people will think it's OP. Especially if you put it in a vorcha's hands, run the flamer then the reeger = dead everything ROFL.

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LMAO..........Just before the Reegar and Krysae came out everyone was like NERF the Geth Infilitrator with a GPS....well Geth doesn't get the little extra Geth bonus on these weapons, so this balances out the Geth class.

Honestly the Krysae is an excellent weapon. I think the only thing I would like better is a Valiant X, but seeing as how a Vlaiant X would take at least 10 weekend operations if you were lucky enough to get a Valaint each time, then the Krysae is the next best thing. Failing those two I think the Viper X is a viable weapon if you want a semi-auto sniper. Of course a Sbaer w/scope isn't a bad option either, but no sniper rifle bonuses, and it seems less accurate than most SRs.

But seriously it's the players not the weapon that make it seem overpowered. Just like the Geth Infiltrator w/ GPS argument. Personally I sucked at that build because the Hunter Mode cuts shields 50% and Tactical Cloak doesn't always hide you. The AI can sometimes see you the same way you can kind of see Hunters.

And with a Krysae I i was scoring higher than players that were using Krysae X.

I also carried a few matches using the Reegar I, but it wasn't easy.

I will admit though that of all the Gold weapons, the Krysae is probably one of the best, and since it's much easier to get a gold weapon to X than it is to get a black one to X, then yes, it's quite an easy gun to dominate with. However I am willing to bet that I could dominate just as well with a number of other weapons if I could get them to X.

I would be willing to bet that if i had any black weapon, besides the Indra, at X I could probably out perform a Krysae X.

I have place top of the board plenty of times in the past with any of the black weapons, and also many of the gold weapons such as the m98 Widow, Graal Spike Thrower, Claymore, GPS.

For that matter I have placed top of the board with blue and silver such as the Mantis X (still one of my favorites), Phaeston, Mattock, Phalanx (on a Biotic), Scimitar (on a Vanguard)

But as it is with me in life as well as class based video games, I am a Jack of All Trades, Master of None, meaning that I can effectively use almost all the different builds, but I am never that guy that specializes in the Geth Infilitrator (for example) and just dominates consistantly.

Here are some of my opinions.

Bronze or Silver:
Vanguard with Talon X or Wraith X or Claymore X or Paladin X or Carnifex X > than Krysae X

Gold:
Geth Infilitrator w/GPS X or Claymore X > Krysae X
Black Widow X > Krysae X
Asari Adept w/ Talon X or Paladin X > Krysae X

Straight up Weapon vs Weapon no bonuses or class builds considered than by itself the Krysae X is in the top 3 sniper rifles, but not necessarily in the top 3 over all. It really depends on your playstyle.

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Moses6533 wrote...
But as it is with me in life as well as class based video games, I am a Jack of All Trades, Master of None, meaning that I can effectively use almost all the different builds, but I am never that guy that specializes in the Geth Infilitrator (for example) and just dominates consistantly.


I'm proud of you, but this isn't really the issue.  The problem is with average to slightly-above-average players dominating games based on the weapon alone, and not their skill level.

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On the Reegar: I have the Reegar III, and I was using it on my GI on FBDCG. It was kitted with AP Mod V and E-Barrel V, and my character was specced for maximum weapon damage. No, Iwas not using a Shotgun Rail Amp III, but bar that, I was on a pretty optimized character. So along comes an Atlas, I cloak and open up at point-blank range, and I strip most of its shields. I prox mine, go at it again, and eat maybe a third of the armor bar.

On Reegar vs Phantoms: I can nom their shield in one clip from point blank, and maybe kill them in one cloak if they don't powerflip or if I fire right from cloak. Generally, I was having about as much luck with them as my friend in the same match was with Claymore and Disruptor Ammo. We can both oneshot if it goes well, but generally not.

In short, in the hands of the average or even above average player, running a pretty optimized build, the Reegar is not the all powerful one-shot machine that people sometimes make it out to be. I got smacked down pretty quick once my cloak ran out, and in the hands of someone without Charge or TC, it's hell getting close enough to use it. It's pretty fine as it is, I think. Works well enough for the masses, and the elitists that hate it and think that Hunter Mode 6 Cloak 6 Passive 6 Shotgun Rail Amp III Berserker Pack V AP Ammo III E-Barrel V AP Mod V makes the game easy can stop powerstacking every possible advantage and use something else.

/rant. As for the Krysae, can't say, I haven't unlocked it. The Harrier is fine as it is, a great weapon that is useful and actually worth carrying. I would only say perhaps increase the base reserve ammo a bit, but I have yet to see what the count looks like above level I.

Edit: I derped. There are 3 levels of Rail Amp consumable, not 5. Carry on.

Modifié par Adragalus, 04 juin 2012 - 02:21 .


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mrcanada wrote...

OMG I DON"T EVEN HAVE ONE BUT THEY OP!!! BLAH BLAH.  Shut up.


This.  God, can you imagine the ocean of tears if these weapons had been in the game this whole time and Rebellion instead added novaguards?

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gigliani60 wrote...

I havent even got these guns yet but i know for a fact how overpowered they are. I really dont want this game to turn into something like CoD when you join and everyones using the same gun because its overpowered, The Reegar carbine isnt so bad because of its short range but the Krysae is frankly ridiculous. You dont even have to hit the target. Please nerf them a bit, so we see more variety.


You don't even have the guns yet, and you already formed an opinion.

Here's my experience with the Reeger:

Its powerful, but not like how its described.  A of people describe it as melting enemies.  It sounds like you can charge in to a group of enemies, spin 360, and kill everything in site.  Not true.   Many teammates using this weapon, IME, die a lot in Gold matches.   

The Krysea, IMO, its the effect that makes it look OP'ed IMO.  You can't single shot and kill pyros in Gold.  At least I can't.   People make it out to be a Cobra Missle with a scope.  Its not.  Its the effect of the enemy liquifing using a sniper rifle that makes it look OPed.

IMO, the strongest argument is that both weapons are rare, and prior to the DLC, if a player had all rares to X, it was pretty easy to get these weapons to X.