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[Renmiri1]

ladyofpayne wrote...

I'd like to see BI warrior. There is no BI warrior active type. Intresting who it be- hot orlesian Warden or templar from Antiva.

Fenris ?

To all who balk at the 7 letters on your LI's profile "Bisexual" consider this: Your Hawke kills people. Murder. Assassinate. Your Hawke steals. Lies. Smuggles poison and drugs. The morality you use for your Hawke in Thedas is not the morality you use for your RL. You rationalize it, "it's just a game" and you would be right, it is just a game. And in the context of said game, killing enemies is commonplace. So is a more fluid sexuality. 

Life in Thedas is short and can usually end violently. In a place like that, people grab happinnes when / how they can. They don't have the luxury of waiting for Mr Perfect or Mrs Perfect, with a flawless past that doesn't gives you cooties. 

Editado por Renmiri1, 07 septiembre 2012 - 04:42 .

[Ryzaki]

To be fair Hawke doesn't have to murder or assassinate anyone.

Self defense is self defense.

[Fiacre]

draken-heart wrote...

Let's go back to origins for a bit. Leliana the only S/S female LI is technically bi, but in my mind she is gay to a female warden because besides the warden, who may or may not be male, her only REAL lover was her bard master, a WOMAN. (REAL as in she actually had feelings for)

now let's look at Merrill and Fenris. these two have no established sexual orientation. Since we do not know which way they would swing normally, It is up to the player's choice of gender to determine these two gay/lesbian or straight.

So? I'm bisexual. I've never actually been in love, but the only person I've ever really crushed on, as opposed to simply being very, very attracted to, was male. It doesn't make me any less bisexual, because I still like both sexes. Leliana's only two lovers having been female doesn't make her any less attracted to males, it's just not outright shown in game and the same goes for Fenris and Merrill.

[Todd23]

Renmiri1 wrote...

ladyofpayne wrote...

I'd like to see BI warrior. There is no BI warrior active type. Intresting who it be- hot orlesian Warden or templar from Antiva.

Fenris ?

To all who balk at the 7 letters on your LI's profile "Bisexual" consider this: Your Hawke kills people. Murder. Assassinate. Your Hawke steals. Lies. Smuggles poison and drugs. The morality you use for your Hawke in Thedas is not the morality you use for your RL. You rationalize it, "it's just a game" and you would be right, it is just a game. And in the context of said game, killing enemies is commonplace. So is a more fluid sexuality. 

Life in Thedas is short and can usually end violently. In a place like that, people grab happinnes when / how they can. They don't have the luxury of waiting for Mr Perfect or Mrs Perfect, with a flawless past that doesn't gives you cooties. 

And yet in the game you pick one romance and can never switch (unless it's a fling with Isabela).  Yet in real life people brake up and get together all the time.

[Todd23]

Double post.

Editado por Todd23, 07 septiembre 2012 - 09:48 .

[Renmiri1]

Todd23 wrote...

And yet in the game you pick one romance and can never switch (unless it's a fling with Isabela).  Yet in real life people brake up and get together all the time.

Huh ?

My LI is Anders 99.99% of the time. And he is so head over heels about Hawke that Hawke can date her Mabari and he will still be there for her 

My favorite romance is actually Fenris then Isabella, then Anders because the dialog gets full of win 

(If Hawke spent the night with Fenris)
Anders: I can't imagine what Hawke sees in you.
Fenris: It is done. Leave it be.
Anders: Well, good. I always knew she/he had some sense.
Fenris: Do not make light of this. Leaving was the hardest thing I've ever done.
(If Isabela is in the party)
Isabela: Oh, will you two get over yourselves? You're like two dogs around a **** in heat
Fenris: We were talking about Hawke. Not you.
(If Isabela is in the party and you slept with her as well)
Isabela: Oh, will you two get over yourselves? I did her/him too.

Editado por Renmiri1, 07 septiembre 2012 - 10:37 .

[CuriousArtemis]

Todd23 wrote...

And yet in the game you pick one romance and can never switch (unless it's a fling with Isabela).  Yet in real life people brake up and get together all the time.

You can sleep with any character and break up with him/her, then move on to another. If you can't, it's a bug.

[draken-heart]

Fiacre wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

Let's go back to origins for a bit. Leliana the only S/S female LI is technically bi, but in my mind she is gay to a female warden because besides the warden, who may or may not be male, her only REAL lover was her bard master, a WOMAN. (REAL as in she actually had feelings for)

now let's look at Merrill and Fenris. these two have no established sexual orientation. Since we do not know which way they would swing normally, It is up to the player's choice of gender to determine these two gay/lesbian or straight.

So? I'm bisexual. I've never actually been in love, but the only person I've ever really crushed on, as opposed to simply being very, very attracted to, was male. It doesn't make me any less bisexual, because I still like both sexes. Leliana's only two lovers having been female doesn't make her any less attracted to males, it's just not outright shown in game and the same goes for Fenris and Merrill.

guess I should have said, is Bi-sexual, but predominantly ******-romantic if playing a female warden

[Fiacre]

I still don't see how the sex of your warden has anything to do with her inclinations. The two people she fell in love with just happens to be female. A far better argument in Leliana's case is that she, from what I've heard, actively pursues the warden in the hair conversation if they're female, while the male warden has to be flirtatious early one, which would indeed be a hint that while she's bisexual she has a preference for females. But simply falling for two females because two important people in her life happens to be female -- and in the Warden's case we definitely know they weren't sought out because of their sex -- doesn't really indicate anything.

BTW, Fenris's sexuality is established. A male Hawke can flirt with him and he will respond positively (and IIRC even flirt back) -- but if neither he nor Isabela are romanced, he'll still get together with her. The only DA2 LI who only ever shows interest in Hawke is Merrill, and even that isn't so much an indication of her sexuality as it shows that she doesn't talk about it usually (and a lot of people don't talk about their sexuality unless they've a reason to).

[draken-heart]

Fiacre wrote...

I still don't see how the sex of your warden has anything to do with her inclinations. The two people she fell in love with just happens to be female. A far better argument in Leliana's case is that she, from what I've heard, actively pursues the warden in the hair conversation if they're female, while the male warden has to be flirtatious early one, which would indeed be a hint that while she's bisexual she has a preference for females. But simply falling for two females because two important people in her life happens to be female -- and in the Warden's case we definitely know they weren't sought out because of their sex -- doesn't really indicate anything.

BTW, Fenris's sexuality is established. A male Hawke can flirt with him and he will respond positively (and IIRC even flirt back) -- but if neither he nor Isabela are romanced, he'll still get together with her. The only DA2 LI who only ever shows interest in Hawke is Merrill, and even that isn't so much an indication of her sexuality as it shows that she doesn't talk about it usually (and a lot of people don't talk about their sexuality unless they've a reason to).

I will concede that you have good point with Leliana, so I guess we could call her Bisexual/predominantly homosexual, since she seems to strongly prefer women. Merrill, however, could still be a lesbian if with a female Hawke and Maybe she had a thing with Marethari or something...

[sylvanaerie]

Fiacre wrote...

I still don't see how the sex of your warden has anything to do with her inclinations. The two people she fell in love with just happens to be female. A far better argument in Leliana's case is that she, from what I've heard, actively pursues the warden in the hair conversation if they're female, while the male warden has to be flirtatious early one, which would indeed be a hint that while she's bisexual she has a preference for females. But simply falling for two females because two important people in her life happens to be female -- and in the Warden's case we definitely know they weren't sought out because of their sex -- doesn't really indicate anything.

BTW, Fenris's sexuality is established. A male Hawke can flirt with him and he will respond positively (and IIRC even flirt back) -- but if neither he nor Isabela are romanced, he'll still get together with her. The only DA2 LI who only ever shows interest in Hawke is Merrill, and even that isn't so much an indication of her sexuality as it shows that she doesn't talk about it usually (and a lot of people don't talk about their sexuality unless they've a reason to).

Actually, she will flirt with Carver, though not overtly.  It can be interpreted she prefers males (or maybe even just male Hawke's), but she certainly didn't mind my LadyHawke cozying up to her after Fenris pulled his escape act.

[Fiacre]

Oh, she does? I thought that was unrequited from Carver's side. I'll have to have them both in my party more often.

Thanks for the correction

[CuriousArtemis]

Fiacre wrote...

BTW, Fenris's sexuality is established. A male Hawke can flirt with him and he will respond positively (and IIRC even flirt back) -- but if neither he nor Isabela are romanced, he'll still get together with her. The only DA2 LI who only ever shows interest in Hawke is Merrill, and even that isn't so much an indication of her sexuality as it shows that she doesn't talk about it usually (and a lot of people don't talk about their sexuality unless they've a reason to).

If you mean the first flirt option, Fenris does not flirt back. He gives an embarrassed cough and a chuckle, regardless of gender. No real indication that he returns Hawke's attraction.

He is awkward when Hawke flirts with him in the first act and even up through the second act. I've only romanced Fenris with male Hawke, so I can confirm that most of his responses to flirt options are embarrassment and awkwardness. He never really flirts back. If he didn't pop up one evening at Hawke's residence, one might think him a straight guy trying his best to dissuade his flirtatious male friend.

About Merrill, as I said either here or elsewhere, she makes remarks that clearly indicate she finds the male kossith interesting to look at. Otherwise, I don't really understand what you're saying about Merrill. 

FYI I think this thread has become pretty absurd, but I couldn't resist correcting some inaccuracies.

No one, if left unromanced, exhibits bisexual behavior in the game. At least I don't think so.

[draken-heart]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Fiacre wrote...

I still don't see how the sex of your warden has anything to do with her inclinations. The two people she fell in love with just happens to be female. A far better argument in Leliana's case is that she, from what I've heard, actively pursues the warden in the hair conversation if they're female, while the male warden has to be flirtatious early one, which would indeed be a hint that while she's bisexual she has a preference for females. But simply falling for two females because two important people in her life happens to be female -- and in the Warden's case we definitely know they weren't sought out because of their sex -- doesn't really indicate anything.

BTW, Fenris's sexuality is established. A male Hawke can flirt with him and he will respond positively (and IIRC even flirt back) -- but if neither he nor Isabela are romanced, he'll still get together with her. The only DA2 LI who only ever shows interest in Hawke is Merrill, and even that isn't so much an indication of her sexuality as it shows that she doesn't talk about it usually (and a lot of people don't talk about their sexuality unless they've a reason to).

Actually, she will flirt with Carver, though not overtly.  It can be interpreted she prefers males (or maybe even just male Hawke's), but she certainly didn't mind my LadyHawke cozying up to her after Fenris pulled his escape act.

I interpret the Merrill/Carver interaction as Merrill being overly friendly. Not everything needs to have a flirting tone to it. Honestly, I do not think she flirts at all.

@Motomotogirl, Interesting to look at=/=sexually pleasing.

Editado por draken-heart, 09 septiembre 2012 - 02:12 .

[Fiacre]

motomotogirl wrote...

Fiacre wrote...

BTW, Fenris's sexuality is established. A male Hawke can flirt with him and he will respond positively (and IIRC even flirt back) -- but if neither he nor Isabela are romanced, he'll still get together with her. The only DA2 LI who only ever shows interest in Hawke is Merrill, and even that isn't so much an indication of her sexuality as it shows that she doesn't talk about it usually (and a lot of people don't talk about their sexuality unless they've a reason to).

If you mean the first flirt option, Fenris does not flirt back. He gives an embarrassed cough and a chuckle, regardless of gender. No real indication that he returns Hawke's attraction.

He is awkward when Hawke flirts with him in the first act and even up through the second act. I've only romanced Fenris with male Hawke, so I can confirm that most of his responses to flirt options are embarrassment and awkwardness. He never really flirts back. If he didn't pop up one evening at Hawke's residence, one might think him a straight guy trying his best to dissuade his flirtatious male friend.

About Merrill, as I said either here or elsewhere, she makes remarks that clearly indicate she finds the male kossith interesting to look at. Otherwise, I don't really understand what you're saying about Merrill. 

FYI I think this thread has become pretty absurd, but I couldn't resist correcting some inaccuracies.

No one, if left unromanced, exhibits bisexual behavior in the game. At least I don't think so.

When you recruit him, it's indicated that his "I didn't think Anso would find me someone so... capable" is him trying to alwardly flirt back. Even so, IIRC you have to use the flirt option at the end of a Bitter Pill to trigger the romance scene, so if you flirt with him in Act 2 (where he definitely responds with some interest), he should still get together with Isabela if you never trigger his romance scene, right?

And what I meant about Merrill is that she doesn't talk about her sexuality a lot (though there are apparently some instances of her indicating interest in males that I'd forgotten about), and that someone doesn't have to go around telling people that they're bisexual to be so.

And Isabela definitely does exhibit bisexual behaviour

[sylvanaerie]

draken-heart wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

Fiacre wrote...

I still don't see how the sex of your warden has anything to do with her inclinations. The two people she fell in love with just happens to be female. A far better argument in Leliana's case is that she, from what I've heard, actively pursues the warden in the hair conversation if they're female, while the male warden has to be flirtatious early one, which would indeed be a hint that while she's bisexual she has a preference for females. But simply falling for two females because two important people in her life happens to be female -- and in the Warden's case we definitely know they weren't sought out because of their sex -- doesn't really indicate anything.

BTW, Fenris's sexuality is established. A male Hawke can flirt with him and he will respond positively (and IIRC even flirt back) -- but if neither he nor Isabela are romanced, he'll still get together with her. The only DA2 LI who only ever shows interest in Hawke is Merrill, and even that isn't so much an indication of her sexuality as it shows that she doesn't talk about it usually (and a lot of people don't talk about their sexuality unless they've a reason to).

Actually, she will flirt with Carver, though not overtly.  It can be interpreted she prefers males (or maybe even just male Hawke's), but she certainly didn't mind my LadyHawke cozying up to her after Fenris pulled his escape act.

I interpret the Merrill/Carver interaction as Merrill being overly friendly. Not everything needs to have a flirting tone to it. Honestly, I do not think she flirts at all.

@Motomotogirl, Interesting to look at=/=sexually pleasing.

See, I totally took that as flirtation, it's all in the interpretation.  Not saying your interpretation is any less valid, just pointing out, not everyone sees the same conversation in the same way.  She had a very flirty tone to it, and it had sexual double entendres tossed out there.  At least that's how I saw it.  If you saw it more as Merrill just being friendly, that's an equally valid way to interpret it.

It doesn't even have to suggest she is interested in Carver sexually as many people just have a very 'friendly, flirty' tone by nature without inviting sexual advances.  While I find Merrill to be friendly, flirty isn't something I would ascribe to her character, which is what made the banter stand out in my mind as unusual.

[whykikyouwhy]

Fiacre wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Fiacre wrote...

BTW, Fenris's sexuality is established. A male Hawke can flirt with him and he will respond positively (and IIRC even flirt back) -- but if neither he nor Isabela are romanced, he'll still get together with her. The only DA2 LI who only ever shows interest in Hawke is Merrill, and even that isn't so much an indication of her sexuality as it shows that she doesn't talk about it usually (and a lot of people don't talk about their sexuality unless they've a reason to).

If you mean the first flirt option, Fenris does not flirt back. He gives an embarrassed cough and a chuckle, regardless of gender. No real indication that he returns Hawke's attraction.

He is awkward when Hawke flirts with him in the first act and even up through the second act. I've only romanced Fenris with male Hawke, so I can confirm that most of his responses to flirt options are embarrassment and awkwardness. He never really flirts back. If he didn't pop up one evening at Hawke's residence, one might think him a straight guy trying his best to dissuade his flirtatious male friend.

About Merrill, as I said either here or elsewhere, she makes remarks that clearly indicate she finds the male kossith interesting to look at. Otherwise, I don't really understand what you're saying about Merrill. 

FYI I think this thread has become pretty absurd, but I couldn't resist correcting some inaccuracies.

No one, if left unromanced, exhibits bisexual behavior in the game. At least I don't think so.

When you recruit him, it's indicated that his "I didn't think Anso would find me someone so... capable" is him trying to alwardly flirt back. Even so, IIRC you have to use the flirt option at the end of a Bitter Pill to trigger the romance scene, so if you flirt with him in Act 2 (where he definitely responds with some interest), he should still get together with Isabela if you never trigger his romance scene, right?

And what I meant about Merrill is that she doesn't talk about her sexuality a lot (though there are apparently some instances of her indicating interest in males that I'd forgotten about), and that someone doesn't have to go around telling people that they're bisexual to be so.

And Isabela definitely does exhibit bisexual behaviour

I figure this - an individual's sexuality/sexual identity is not "established" to anyone outside of that individual until said individual says something to indicate how he/she perceives his/herself. Anything else is speculation and interpretation - it's someone else using circumstantial evidence, and assumptions, to identify someone (a very human tendency, but yet, not flawless in its outcome). Someone acts in manner X, therefore they are X-esque, or what have you.

No one needs to declare who they are, or share such aspects of themselves with anyone else. But as such, anything we decide, even by careful observation, is really a guess as we don't know the true heart of a person until he/she chooses to make that known.

[Fiacre]

Indeed. We might decide that evidence suggests that x is bisexual, but in the end only x knows. I just find the idea of Hawke's sex deciding their friends' sexuality kind of silly, even if it's just video game.

[whykikyouwhy]

Fiacre wrote...

Indeed. We might decide that evidence suggests that x is bisexual, but in the end only x knows. I just find the idea of Hawke's sex deciding their friends' sexuality kind of silly, even if it's just video game.

But Hawke's gender doesn't decide or define the sexuality/sexual identity of the companions. From a mechanics perspective, you have 5 LIs, 4 of whom are available to Hawke regardless of gender. Two companions make comments to Hawke that could be interpreted as flirtation - Isabela and Anders. With the former, the comment is in a cut scene and the player does not get to react/respond. In the latter, the player can respond (I don't want to go tangential with how Anders was handled however). Going back to what other posters have said, Fenris's comment, while you are allowed a heart-icon reply, doesn't really ring as flirtation, but this can be open to interpretation.

It takes the action of the player to initiate and follow through on a romance. Those afore-mentioned 4 companions, while always available as LIs to the player across multiple playthroughs, are not necessarily bi-, straight, or gay. They are subject to the interpretation of the player, and how he/she wishes to play Hawke. They don't really mention former lovers (save Isabela and Anders), but that doesn't mean that they didn't have previous relationships, nor does the Hawke they are with determine or somehow create a default for who-came-before. I always saw the companions as responding to who Hawke is - the sum total - not just Hawke's gender. While we could get into the psychology, physiology, and biology of how attraction is measured, when it comes down to it, love is a mysterious thing - and we don't always know beforehand, like some checklist, who it is that we may feel love for, and to what degree. I think the companions were written in that light - Hawke just happens to be that one person that all the lights and bells go off for. But only if Hawke (and the player) puts forth the effort.

[Fiacre]

I don't think we really disagree, because I don't actually think Hawke defines the LIs' sexuality, it's an idea I've seen quite a few times that I do disagree with, which is why I actually argue against it.

I'm actually do think that Hawke just happens to be a person the four main LIs can fall in love with regardless of Hawke's sex and whatever sexuality the LIs identify with in the end, as well.

[Crimson Moon]

Fiacre wrote...

I don't think we really disagree, because I don't actually think Hawke defines the LIs' sexuality, it's an idea I've seen quite a few times that I do disagree with, which is why I actually argue against it.

I'm actually do think that Hawke just happens to be a person the four main LIs can fall in love with regardless of Hawke's sex and whatever sexuality the LIs identify with in the end, as well.

I agree with this. Most of the LI hate each other. Anders and Fenris can't stand one another, both of them hate Merrill. Merrill and Isabela are like sisters to each other. Anders has treated Isabela's many diseases that I doubt he would want to get into that. The only combination that works is Fenris and Isabela and they do lick each other's lampost if you don't romance either of them.

[Renmiri1]

Merril is quite the little perv!

Carver: So, you're not like a lot of other girls.
Merrill: No, I'm an elf.
Carver: Right, alright then.
Merrill: Oh, did I miss something dirty?
Carver: What? No! It wasn't dirty. It wasn't anything.
Merrill: Oh? Right, because I miss a lot of dirty things and sometimes I wouldn't mind hearing them.
Carver: Would you now?

...

Carver: Oh, well, that must have been unpleasant.
Merrill: It was. Did I miss something dirty again?
Carver: No.

...

Merrill: Why are you smiling?
Isabela: No reason.
Merrill: Ooh, ooh! It's something dirty, isn't it? Tell me, tell me!
Isabela: It... it isn't anything dirty. I'm just... happy.
Merrill: Oh. That's good, too, but I was hoping for something dirty.
Isabela: Come by the tavern later. I've got stories that will make your toes curl.

...
Merrill: I have to say, this is a nice break from the templars giving me the hairy eyeball all the time.
Hawke: Carver...
(If Hawke is in a romance with Merrill and Carver is a templar)
Carver: Don't you worry, it wasn't and won't be me. Have your fun.
(Otherwise)
Carver: Don't look at me. I haven't given her a hairy anything. Not that it's your business.
...

Anders: Were you trying to look at my grimoire the other day?
Merrill: Me? What? No! When?
Anders: At my clinic, while I was talking to Hawke. I saw you looking in one of my books. You know, those are private.
Merrill: I know that's why—oh, fine, I admit it. I was hoping you'd have um... dirty spells.
Anders: Dirty spells?
Merrill: You know to um, make things more exciting. Oh, I shouldn't have said anything.
(If Isabela is in the party)
Isabela: That's my girl.

[sylvanaerie]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Merril is quite the little perv!

Carver: So, you're not like a lot of other girls.
Merrill: No, I'm an elf.
Carver: Right, alright then.
Merrill: Oh, did I miss something dirty?
Carver: What? No! It wasn't dirty. It wasn't anything.
Merrill: Oh? Right, because I miss a lot of dirty things and sometimes I wouldn't mind hearing them.
Carver: Would you now?

...

Carver: Oh, well, that must have been unpleasant.
Merrill: It was. Did I miss something dirty again?
Carver: No.

...

Merrill: Why are you smiling?
Isabela: No reason.
Merrill: Ooh, ooh! It's something dirty, isn't it? Tell me, tell me!
Isabela: It... it isn't anything dirty. I'm just... happy.
Merrill: Oh. That's good, too, but I was hoping for something dirty.
Isabela: Come by the tavern later. I've got stories that will make your toes curl.

...
Merrill: I have to say, this is a nice break from the templars giving me the hairy eyeball all the time.
Hawke: Carver...
(If Hawke is in a romance with Merrill and Carver is a templar)
Carver: Don't you worry, it wasn't and won't be me. Have your fun.
(Otherwise)
Carver: Don't look at me. I haven't given her a hairy anything. Not that it's your business.
...

Anders: Were you trying to look at my grimoire the other day?
Merrill: Me? What? No! When?
Anders: At my clinic, while I was talking to Hawke. I saw you looking in one of my books. You know, those are private.
Merrill: I know that's why—oh, fine, I admit it. I was hoping you'd have um... dirty spells.
Anders: Dirty spells?
Merrill: You know to um, make things more exciting. Oh, I shouldn't have said anything.
(If Isabela is in the party)
Isabela: That's my girl.

LOL well this post taught me that I totally need to take Merrill around more with other companions...

[draken-heart]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Merril is quite the little perv!

Carver: So, you're not like a lot of other girls.
Merrill: No, I'm an elf.
Carver: Right, alright then.
Merrill: Oh, did I miss something dirty?
Carver: What? No! It wasn't dirty. It wasn't anything.
Merrill: Oh? Right, because I miss a lot of dirty things and sometimes I wouldn't mind hearing them.
Carver: Would you now?

...

Carver: Oh, well, that must have been unpleasant.
Merrill: It was. Did I miss something dirty again?
Carver: No.

...

Merrill: Why are you smiling?
Isabela: No reason.
Merrill: Ooh, ooh! It's something dirty, isn't it? Tell me, tell me!
Isabela: It... it isn't anything dirty. I'm just... happy.
Merrill: Oh. That's good, too, but I was hoping for something dirty.
Isabela: Come by the tavern later. I've got stories that will make your toes curl.

...
Merrill: I have to say, this is a nice break from the templars giving me the hairy eyeball all the time.
Hawke: Carver...
(If Hawke is in a romance with Merrill and Carver is a templar)
Carver: Don't you worry, it wasn't and won't be me. Have your fun.
(Otherwise)
Carver: Don't look at me. I haven't given her a hairy anything. Not that it's your business.
...

Anders: Were you trying to look at my grimoire the other day?
Merrill: Me? What? No! When?
Anders: At my clinic, while I was talking to Hawke. I saw you looking in one of my books. You know, those are private.
Merrill: I know that's why—oh, fine, I admit it. I was hoping you'd have um... dirty spells.
Anders: Dirty spells?
Merrill: You know to um, make things more exciting. Oh, I shouldn't have said anything.
(If Isabela is in the party)
Isabela: That's my girl.

Bolded is a lot funnier if you are in a rivalry romance with Merrill. Imagine the DIRTY spells Merrill may have used on hawke to get back at him/her for keeping the arulin'holm or however you spell the name of that carving tool.