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[Landon7001]

Ashley was my main LI and I found her story in me 3 satisying enough. Mainly I was just flabbergasted that shed never have a conversation with me once she got aboad the normandy. But I did find the whole mars injury-hospital thing satisfying and unexpexted, and it created yet another emotional bond/investment.

I think most would agree Liara had the best LI conclusion. So if she was your LI I bet you were happy with it.

As for the worst I think it has to be Miranda. Many say Thane or Jacob and thats true{ all the me 2 LIs got majorly, ridiculously shafted} but Miranda is more of a main character. She essentialy takes Ahs's place in me 2. Through me 2 exposure ans adverstiding its clear how main of a character she was intended to be. PLus she ended up being among the most popular. So taking into account all of this Id have to say its Miranda. Shes in ME 3 so little and the fact shes not recruitable even if shes your LI is mind boggling. I was SURE she would be. BUt theres not even a proper final love scene. Its very, very empty playing through ME 3 w/ Miranda as your mian girl....

[Most Definitely Sane]

Liara definitely had the best in Mass Effect 3, though even she had some problems. Despite her being one of my least favorites(though I still like her), she had some of the best scenes in the game.

Worst, was in mine and plenty others, Thane and Jacob. Miranda, while shafted, at the very least HAD a story. Thane and Jacob were put aside, and had their development from the romance thrown away.

[Landon7001]

I just thought if there was anyone from me 2 they were going to/ had to do right by, it was miranda.....but no not even her......i romanced thane w my femshep, but i always knew he was going to die, its part of his story. so i kinda liked how he ended, as a hero, he did get some prime spotlight at least....but if i was a huge thane fan i guess i too would be insatisfied

[Padt]

I'd say Garrus got the best conclusion, actually. His romance seems to be acknowledged in some way, shape or form in practically every conversation you have with him, and both the scene where he becomes locked in as your love interest and the goodbye on Earth are very heartfelt and moving. You can tell they really, really wanted to do something special with him. Liara would come after Garrus. She's one of the love interests that gets the largest volume of content (I think she may have fewer private conversations than Garrus, but only by a little), and it seems like her love and goodbye scenes were the ones that they put most effort in.

[Most Definitely Sane]

I don't mind his death, either, though I believe they should have had more content and had his death referenced at any other time than the fight with Kai Leng.

Padt, you have a good point.

[CptData]

Best? Well, Liara, Ashley, Kaidan.

Worst? Jacob.

But if you really want a ranking or something, besides of Liara and the VS, only Traynor and Cortez got some kind of satisfying conclusion.

[AmyMac]

I didn't actually mind Thane dying -- kind of expected it. I think if they'd magically cured his Kepral's Syndrome between ME2 and ME3 that would have just been one more thing that pissed me off. I wish they would have recorded more romance-specific conversations with him though -- hell, maybe even a Thane-romance line between Shep and Kolyat.
Garrus was cool -- the dynamic between them is the kind of romance I think my Shepard would want. Traynor made me lol with the absurdity of it all.

[Vlk3]

I' m a Thanemancer and honestly- I'm torn. I don't know if Jacob 's romance cocnlucison was worse or Thane's. Jacob, although I don't like him, was an honest man and what they have done to him in ME3 was just...stupid. I don't believe in his cheating. That was just forced so they didn't need to work on proper romance content.

And Thane... Shepard resurrected, space magic everywhere, Mordin cured plague on Omega without any problems, in ME3 genophage cured even if you destroyed Maelon' s data. Yet, there' s no way to cure Thane. He's dying, he must die, he's nothing more than his disease! Everyone suddenly forgot that he was more than that. Imagine him talking to Ashley or Javik- with his beliefs, eidetic memory, history of his species, his profession. There was so much potential and yet all BioWare wanted us to believe was that he must die and there is nothing interesting about him. And he was killed so early in order to let us go for Liara or VS or that Traynor. Great. Did i mention lung transplant and hanar working on cure? What? Magical cure? I don't think so..just laziness and lack of time perhaps.

All ME2 romances where shafted though, except Garrus and Tali. As for Ashley, well... both Thane and Ashley had the same writer. Clearly, in ME3, there was no one left who cared for them enough to write them proper stories in ME3.


Best story? I think it's Liara, but i don't really know, my choice 'was wrong'.

Modifié par Vlk3, 02 juin 2012 - 12:29 .

[Landon7001]

@ Vlk3 Ash was always my main li and i was satified with her me 3 story, Just wished she would have had a friegen conversation with me once on the normandy. And yes some thane convos w/ ash or javik wouldve been great. As would have Ash and miranda/jack convos

[flippedeclipse]

 Garrus had the best romance I think. Liara, though she had a ton of content, kept trying to friendzone you and it was super awkward. Garrus' was a lot more natural.
Worst award goes to Thane, poor baby =[ One conversation and a death scene <_<. Chose Thane over Jacob because Thane was designed to be an LI, from his looks to his personality; to shaft him like that is just counterintuitive.

In the end I guess they did damage control and made the fan favourites have good plots and pushed the others aside. Why Thane wasn't included in the former group though, I'll never know.

Modifié par flippedeclipse, 02 juin 2012 - 12:33 .

[Apathy1989]

Best: Liara, Kaiden, Garrus

Good: Tali, Ash, Traynor, Cortez

Meh: Miranda

Bad: Jack, Kelly

Worse: Jacob or Thane

Modifié par Apathy1989, 02 juin 2012 - 12:34 .

[LelianaHawke]

Apathy1989 wrote...

Bad: Jack, Kelly

Kelly's my Shepard's LI and I actually loved the Kelly romance... I actually enjoyed the realism of the whole 'not enough time to date, we're both lonely while the war is on'.

Not every romance needs teary love scenes and bedroom dates.

That said, there were some things that could have been done better.

Modifié par LelianaHawke, 02 juin 2012 - 12:44 .

[Vlk3]

Landon7001 wrote...

@ Vlk3 Ash was always my main li and i was satified with her me 3 story, Just wished she would have had a friegen conversation with me once on the normandy. And yes some thane convos w/ ash or javik wouldve been great. As would have Ash and miranda/jack convos

Well, perhaps I used wrong words, about Ashley I meant there should be just more dialogue, story was propably good. But it's not for me to judge.

[darthnick427]

Apathy1989 wrote...

Best: Liara, Kaiden, Garrus

Good: Tali, Ash, Traynor, Cortez

Meh: Miranda

Bad: Jack, Kelly

Worse: Jacob or Thane

This. Exactly what I was thinking. Tali would be up in the best section if they had made an actual face model in game. And Garrus and Tali should have gotten proper romance scenes like Kaidan, Liara and Ash.

But then again all the LI's should have gotten proper romance scenes...<_<

Modifié par darthnick427, 02 juin 2012 - 02:33 .

[Agent B406]

Jack's was pretty bad.

"Remember how I was vulnerable yet tough, paradoxically? Wasn't that awesome? And you actually caused a change in my character in the last game? Let's make out on a ship and then GO DANCING instead of doing all that tired stuff again."

[Hadeedak]

Garrus was spot on. Timing was perfect, most if not all conversations touched on it being a thing, lots of cute little touching, sentimental, a good way to tie in the relationship over 3 games... Wonderful little arch, period. And yeah, I'd say better than Liara. She had some real hiccups with timing.

On the other end of the spectrum, there's poor Thane (oops, he could be a love interest? QUICK, throw in a siha and a make-out scene to his TWO WHOLE CONVERSATIONS, one of which is his deathbed) and Jacob (sorry, Shepard. I know my whole draw was that I was Mr. Reliable, but I guess I'm shacking up with this chick. Still besties?).

[coldwetn0se]

@Hadeedak - haha <giggle/snort> .........ahem. Very well said.

[Han Shot First]

Though it isn't without issues, Liara had the best written romance arc throughout the entire series.

While I roll a Male Shep, I have heard that Jacob still gets Dr. Cole pregnant even when romancing Fem Shep. With that in mind, I don't think there is any debate over who had the worst romance.

As for Thane: I'm thankful that Bioware did not cave into pressure from some Thanemancers and cure him. This would have been a terrible example of fanservice ruining a character. And his death scene in ME3 was brilliant.

That being said, Thane lacked for romance specific content before he gets killed. So I do think Thanemancers have a legitimate gripe there, just not in regards to his death.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 02 juin 2012 - 03:31 .

[mnomaha]

Oh Liara definitely had the best romance available. I doubt anyone could argue that.

Worst...it's a tie between Thane and Jacob. I can't even describe how much I detest bioware for what they've done, but there's that tiny (really really tiny) sliver of hope that they will finally 'fess up to it and fix it. All the ME2 squad got hosed in ME3 and all the excuses just sound hollow, well, when we actually get an excuse it will.

[Padt]

Jacob definitely got the short (well, shortest) end of the stick. I mean, the way Thane's romance played out was pretty bad (and as someone who loves Thane, I believe I've gone on record stating that I don't necessarily have an issue with him dying, but even with that...), but Jacob's? Man...Jacob's romance has technically ended even before Mass Effect 3 starts. Worse, it's ended with him cheating on Shepard. And then the insurmountable awkwardness and tone-deafness of the conversations that follow, where Jacob talks to Shepard as if they'd never been involved at all. I can only imagine the outrage if they'd done something like that with any of the other love interests, let alone one of the popular ones.

Far as Thane goes, well...like I said, I don't necessarily have an issue with him dying, or even with the fact that his death is unavoidable, unlike Mordin's. But it's just...a little more content and a little more differentiation between the dynamic of Shepard and a romanced and unromanced Thane would have been good. Also, this may sound a bit strange, but I think it would have been good if they'd also given you the option to lock into Thane as your love interest and remain locked in to him even if he dies. So that at the very least, you don't have the horrible awkwardness of having your squad and crew hitting on you right after Thane's death. And if you do this, Shepard could be roleplayed as a sort of grieving lover, maybe including a few references to Thane's death and Shepard's resulting state of mind in conversation with other characters, and so forth. I don't know, it's an idea that occurred to me just now.

But anyway. End of the day, I guess it was sort of inevitable that Garrus and Liara would wound up being the two with the better turnout. They seem one of the few (maybe the only) characters that exist at the center of the Venn diagram of "fan-favorite and developer-favorite", so inertia alone dictates that more work and effort will probably go into them.

[Han Shot First]

Padt wrote...

Jacob definitely got the short (well, shortest) end of the stick. I mean, the way Thane's romance played out was pretty bad (and as someone who loves Thane, I believe I've gone on record stating that I don't necessarily have an issue with him dying, but even with that...), but Jacob's? Man...Jacob's romance has technically ended even before Mass Effect 3 starts. Worse, it's ended with him cheating on Shepard. And then the insurmountable awkwardness and tone-deafness of the conversations that follow, where Jacob talks to Shepard as if they'd never been involved at all.  I can only imagine the outrage if they'd done something like that with any of the other love interests, let alone one of the popular ones.

I think Jacob not being popular is what got his romance arc axed. Bioware had all these characters to account for and too many variables, and figured they could get away with dropping his romance all together, because he had comparatively few fans. They'd have never tried it with Tali, Liara, or Garrus. The boards would have been flooded with rage. Jacob's fans got the shaft by virture of there being so few of them.

Far as Thane goes, well...like I said, I don't necessarily have an issue with him dying, or even with the fact that his death is unavoidable, unlike Mordin's. But it's just...a little more content and a little more differentiation between the dynamic of Shepard and a romanced and unromanced Thane would have been good. Also, this may sound a bit strange, but I think it would have been good if they'd also given you the option to lock into Thane as your love interest and remain locked in to him even if he dies. So that at the very least, you don't have the horrible awkwardness of having your squad and crew hitting on you right after Thane's death. And if you do this, Shepard could be roleplayed as a sort of grieving lover, maybe including a few references to Thane's death and Shepard's resulting state of mind in conversation with other characters, and so forth. I don't know, it's an idea that occurred to me just now.

I think your suggestions would have been a good way to handle Thane in Mass Effect 3. He'd still have the death scene but more romance content, and the grieving lover angle would give the death a lot more meaning beyond just that scene.

But anyway. End of the day, I guess it was sort of inevitable that Garrus and Liara would wound up being the two with the better turnout. They seem one of the few (maybe the only) characters that exist at the center of the Venn diagram of "fan-favorite and developer-favorite", so inertia alone dictates that more work and effort will probably go into them.

Liara also benefits from being guaranteed to be alive going into ME3. The only variables to account for was whether she was romanced or not and whether or not the player helped her take down the Shadow Broker.

[gearseffect]

Thane, Jacob, Kelly and Samara.

DO NOT even think about feeding me your BS on Samara not being a LI. It's cr@p BW promissed fans more on that front. DO NOT bring fire to this I got water and ammunition for this fight already stock piled. DO NOT EVEN attempt to start that fire.

And Kelly, I saw the leaked scripts of Kelly, she got more content cut from her leaked scripts then any other character in the game. She was nearly full LI, and had her past explored.

So there Jacob, Thane, Kelly and Samara.

[FaWa]

If you romanced Thane, you knew he would die eventually. I don't know why you all thought differently. (Other then a little bit of hope in LOTSB)
Jacob, however, was stupidly bad.

Garrus, Ash, Kaidan (Kaidan Mshep mmm) Steve, Liara would be the best imo

[Han Shot First]

What did they have planned for Kelly?

[Apathy1989]

darthnick427 wrote...

Apathy1989 wrote...

Best: Liara, Kaiden, Garrus

Good: Tali, Ash, Traynor, Cortez

Meh: Miranda

Bad: Jack, Kelly

Worse: Jacob or Thane

This. Exactly what I was thinking. Tali would be up in the best section if they had made an actual face model in game. And Garrus and Tali should have gotten proper romance scenes like Kaidan, Liara and Ash.

But then again all the LI's should have gotten proper romance scenes...<_<

Garrus romance scene was lacking, just like Talis, but Garrus is around the entire game and has so many sweet lines. Tali has this aswell, but sadly appears very late.