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megawug wrote...

Please don't nerf the it... I just got it! I need a weapon that turns every match into fbw/g/g for the times when I'm farming rather than for the challenge.

Please explain? 

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Wouldn't be a new day without a Stardusk whine thread would it.

05:09: "With this weapon you just turn and shoot and vaporise 3 enemies at once"
05:10: Stardusk has to reload to kill 1 Phantom.

So uh, no mention I could see of what equipment and mods were in use here?

Either the Reegar get's insanely more powerful as it levels up or you've stacked the deck with equipment. Why do I say that? Well, I use a Reegar IV on a MQI. With bonus from tactical cloak and me aiming entirely at the head (yes I aim the thing) it takes an entire clip to take out 1 single Geth Pyro. That's with me using Shredder Mod V and High Caliber Barrel V but not using consumables.

Modifié par DayusMakhina, 02 juin 2012 - 01:33 .


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Stardusk wrote...

 This weapon is beyond broken. It is an abomination.

www.youtube.com/watch


Do you feel important when you whine in front of hundreds of people?

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Thank you Stardusk for making your biweekly whine thread on a Saturday morning, as far away as possible from Bioware's work schedule and notice.

If there was one poster for ME2 that I wish I could just blanket ignore, it was smudboy. For ME3 it's Stardusk.

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DayusMakhina wrote...

Wouldn't be a new day without a Stardusk whine thread would it.

05:15: "With this weapon you just turn and shoot and vaporise 3 enemies at once"
05:16: Stardusk has to reload to kill 1 Phantom.

So uh, no mention I could see of what equipment and mods were in use here?

Either the Reegar get's insanely more powerful as it levels up or you've stacked the deck with equipment. Why do I say that? Well, I use a Reegar IV on a MQI. With bonus from tactical cloak and me aiming entirely at the head (yes I aim the thing) it takes an entire clip to take out 1 single Geth Pyro. That's with me using Shredder Mod V and High Caliber Barrel V but not using consumables.


You see the point. His video shows a team with very powerful weapons, all mods, and at least one player with a super fast DPS boost/auto-reload skill. Again, take the same team with any other super hard hitting weapon and you will melt faces. However, it isn't in his best interest to do that, obviously.

In the end it doesn't matter, you and I and many others will get sucked into helping out his cause. All he wants to do is keep these threads on the front page, because BW will not read all of the thread. They will skim it and eventually say, the players want a nerf, and then nerf it. That is his goal, although I honestly think it is also an ego thing for him to have soooo many people respond to his posts.

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His whine level..... IT'S OVER 9000?!?!?!!!!??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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DayusMakhina wrote...

Wouldn't be a new day without a Stardusk whine thread would it.

05:09: "With this weapon you just turn and shoot and vaporise 3 enemies at once"
05:10: Stardusk has to reload to kill 1 Phantom.

So uh, no mention I could see of what equipment and mods were in use here?

Either the Reegar get's insanely more powerful as it levels up or you've stacked the deck with equipment. Why do I say that? Well, I use a Reegar IV on a MQI. With bonus from tactical cloak and me aiming entirely at the head (yes I aim the thing) it takes an entire clip to take out 1 single Geth Pyro. That's with me using Shredder Mod V and High Caliber Barrel V but not using consumables.


It's true what he said. I was using Reegar X with inferno rounds III and shotgun amp I on GI and managed to kill 3 phantoms with 1 mag. They lined up perfectly. Even without consumables, on level X, it's absolutely lethal.

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SoulWeaver wrote...

Good video OP. It really shows how overpowered this gun is!

For the people who say "Just don't use the gun": This game already has three levels of difficulty. It shouldn't have guns that allow you to downgrade those levels and keep their rewards. If you want an easy time, play bronze or silver, knowing you will get fewer credits. Gold means a great reward for a great challenge and the challenge part shouldn't be optional.

That being said, since trivializing gold matches lowers the income from the online store, I'm fairly certain the gun will be nerfed, with or without the player's approval.


I play gold even when my team and I wipe out at level 1 or make it to extraction.  Bronze and Silver are warm up or level up at best, and eventually a snooze.  But, I'm not a massochist.  I like to get the most credits for my time.  Reeger does not change that for me.  So, I don't sympathize with your view at all.

And, I don't see Reeger trivializing gold at all, or N7 weapons.

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Okovani Prometei wrote...

DayusMakhina wrote...

Wouldn't be a new day without a Stardusk whine thread would it.

05:09: "With this weapon you just turn and shoot and vaporise 3 enemies at once"
05:10: Stardusk has to reload to kill 1 Phantom.

So uh, no mention I could see of what equipment and mods were in use here?

Either the Reegar get's insanely more powerful as it levels up or you've stacked the deck with equipment. Why do I say that? Well, I use a Reegar IV on a MQI. With bonus from tactical cloak and me aiming entirely at the head (yes I aim the thing) it takes an entire clip to take out 1 single Geth Pyro. That's with me using Shredder Mod V and High Caliber Barrel V but not using consumables.


It's true what he said. I was using Reegar X with inferno rounds III and shotgun amp I on GI and managed to kill 3 phantoms with 1 mag. They lined up perfectly. Even without consumables, on level X, it's absolutely lethal.


On GI................

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Another thing I'd like to point out--midway through the video, charging through the bunkers on Ghost, you state that for you, the most satisfying thing about the game and shooting someone is lining up the shot and succeeding. That's great, and every character does shoot in this game, but you should remember that the game has several classes focused around doing exactly the opposite of that. All adepts, engineers, some vanguards, the human sentinel--these are classes whose role and design is generally to use instant-hit or homing powers. They're awfully popular classes, too. Perhaps the Reegar is a gun for them, and perhaps you should expand your viewpoint to consider these types of players.

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We Tigers wrote...

Another thing I'd like to point out--midway through the video, charging through the bunkers on Ghost, you state that for you, the most satisfying thing about the game and shooting someone is lining up the shot and succeeding. That's great, and every character does shoot in this game, but you should remember that the game has several classes focused around doing exactly the opposite of that. All adepts, engineers, some vanguards, the human sentinel--these are classes whose role and design is generally to use instant-hit or homing powers. They're awfully popular classes, too. Perhaps the Reegar is a gun for them, and perhaps you should expand your viewpoint to consider these types of players.

^^ This exactly. This weapon is so damn situational its not even funny.

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Okovani Prometei wrote...

DayusMakhina wrote...

Wouldn't be a new day without a Stardusk whine thread would it.

05:09: "With this weapon you just turn and shoot and vaporise 3 enemies at once"
05:10: Stardusk has to reload to kill 1 Phantom.

So uh, no mention I could see of what equipment and mods were in use here?

Either the Reegar get's insanely more powerful as it levels up or you've stacked the deck with equipment. Why do I say that? Well, I use a Reegar IV on a MQI. With bonus from tactical cloak and me aiming entirely at the head (yes I aim the thing) it takes an entire clip to take out 1 single Geth Pyro. That's with me using Shredder Mod V and High Caliber Barrel V but not using consumables.


It's true what he said. I was using Reegar X with inferno rounds III and shotgun amp I on GI and managed to kill 3 phantoms with 1 mag. They lined up perfectly. Even without consumables, on level X, it's absolutely lethal.


On GI................


Sure. Even without the bonuses gained from Hunter Mode, the Reegar melts everything apart from banshees/atlases/primes. At least that's my experience with it, I don't know how others use it.

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Hey stardust show me a video where you play with randoms, no mods and no equipment (the shotgun rails or ammo or gear) and then tell me this gun is broken. You had a good team who communicates and they were durable classes (krogaurd has the most shields snd health of any class (base line). And also use the weapon on at least five classes (asari, salarian, drell, geth, quarian, human, vorcha whatever) and see how that works out for you.

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As much as I did laugh at the video, I had to stop after 5 minutes as it was little more then a broken record.

A little hint; if you are going to make an argument, try something other then saying "It's broken!" fifty or so times. He didn't even try to come up with a counter-argument to the range issue. Just more "This gun is overpowered/broken!" and more pointless whining.

I am not going to make a judgement call if or if not the gun is balanced but I do know this video is not going to convince anyone of even mild intelligence.

Modifié par IIIMystIII, 02 juin 2012 - 03:23 .


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We Tigers wrote...

Another thing I'd like to point out--midway through the video, charging through the bunkers on Ghost, you state that for you, the most satisfying thing about the game and shooting someone is lining up the shot and succeeding. That's great, and every character does shoot in this game, but you should remember that the game has several classes focused around doing exactly the opposite of that. All adepts, engineers, some vanguards, the human sentinel--these are classes whose role and design is generally to use instant-hit or homing powers. They're awfully popular classes, too. Perhaps the Reegar is a gun for them, and perhaps you should expand your viewpoint to consider these types of players.


THIS!  If we take Stardusk's view, a lot of things will need to change to be consistent with that view.  Many players will lose their fav classes and the game will lose it's differences with other games.

Modifié par nicethugbert, 02 juin 2012 - 01:57 .


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XxTaLoNxX wrote...

This thread is a fail and the OP is a fail.


No OP is a ****got.

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StrawHatMoose wrote...

Hey stardust show me a video where you play with randoms, no mods and no equipment (the shotgun rails or ammo or gear) and then tell me this gun is broken. You had a good team who communicates and they were durable classes (krogaurd has the most shields snd health of any class (base line). And also use the weapon on at least five classes (asari, salarian, drell, geth, quarian, human, vorcha whatever) and see how that works out for you.


Why wouldn't you use gear amps since they are a permanent addition?

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I just can't believe we're talking about the Reeger being this retarded and not the Krysae. At least you can't do that from any range with the Reeger lol. Explosive proximity rounds that proc ammo powers every time on a gun that zooms to the targets distance for you when you aim. Herp derp.

I wonder if a Harrier X is as dumb as the other new guns.

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Watch out the ME3 Police are out and about handing out citations for people playing with "OP" weapons.

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Okovani Prometei wrote...

DayusMakhina wrote...

Wouldn't be a new day without a Stardusk whine thread would it.

05:09: "With this weapon you just turn and shoot and vaporise 3 enemies at once"
05:10: Stardusk has to reload to kill 1 Phantom.

So uh, no mention I could see of what equipment and mods were in use here?

Either the Reegar get's insanely more powerful as it levels up or you've stacked the deck with equipment. Why do I say that? Well, I use a Reegar IV on a MQI. With bonus from tactical cloak and me aiming entirely at the head (yes I aim the thing) it takes an entire clip to take out 1 single Geth Pyro. That's with me using Shredder Mod V and High Caliber Barrel V but not using consumables.


It's true what he said. I was using Reegar X with inferno rounds III and shotgun amp I on GI and managed to kill 3 phantoms with 1 mag. They lined up perfectly. Even without consumables, on level X, it's absolutely lethal.

So his Reegar X cannot even kill 1, yet you're saying you can kill 3? That's... logical.

Oh, 'they lined up perfectly', does that mean they were all sat behind cover in a line and you could just hit them in the face to drop them instantly? Cos from my experience that's the only time Phantoms drop like a sack of potatoes.

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DayusMakhina wrote...

Okovani Prometei wrote...

DayusMakhina wrote...

Wouldn't be a new day without a Stardusk whine thread would it.

05:09: "With this weapon you just turn and shoot and vaporise 3 enemies at once"
05:10: Stardusk has to reload to kill 1 Phantom.

So uh, no mention I could see of what equipment and mods were in use here?

Either the Reegar get's insanely more powerful as it levels up or you've stacked the deck with equipment. Why do I say that? Well, I use a Reegar IV on a MQI. With bonus from tactical cloak and me aiming entirely at the head (yes I aim the thing) it takes an entire clip to take out 1 single Geth Pyro. That's with me using Shredder Mod V and High Caliber Barrel V but not using consumables.


It's true what he said. I was using Reegar X with inferno rounds III and shotgun amp I on GI and managed to kill 3 phantoms with 1 mag. They lined up perfectly. Even without consumables, on level X, it's absolutely lethal.

So his Reegar X cannot even kill 1, yet you're saying you can kill 3? That's... logical.

Oh, 'they lined up perfectly', does that mean they were all sat behind cover in a line and you could just hit them in the face to drop them instantly? Cos from my experience that's the only time Phantoms drop like a sack of potatoes.


It was the start of wave 11 and they just respawned which means they were still closer one to each other. I just charged them and got the kills.

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Okovani Prometei wrote...

StrawHatMoose wrote...

Hey stardust show me a video where you play with randoms, no mods and no equipment (the shotgun rails or ammo or gear) and then tell me this gun is broken. You had a good team who communicates and they were durable classes (krogaurd has the most shields snd health of any class (base line). And also use the weapon on at least five classes (asari, salarian, drell, geth, quarian, human, vorcha whatever) and see how that works out for you.


Why wouldn't you use gear amps since they are a permanent addition?


Permenent as in they don't disappear. You can still unequip them, they are still equipment. Also they get in equipped automatically after a game sometimes. I want to see him use a bare reegar carbine without any helpful things do he can't see what a basic carbine can do.

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DayusMakhina wrote...

Okovani Prometei wrote...

DayusMakhina wrote...

Wouldn't be a new day without a Stardusk whine thread would it.

05:09: "With this weapon you just turn and shoot and vaporise 3 enemies at once"
05:10: Stardusk has to reload to kill 1 Phantom.

So uh, no mention I could see of what equipment and mods were in use here?

Either the Reegar get's insanely more powerful as it levels up or you've stacked the deck with equipment. Why do I say that? Well, I use a Reegar IV on a MQI. With bonus from tactical cloak and me aiming entirely at the head (yes I aim the thing) it takes an entire clip to take out 1 single Geth Pyro. That's with me using Shredder Mod V and High Caliber Barrel V but not using consumables.


It's true what he said. I was using Reegar X with inferno rounds III and shotgun amp I on GI and managed to kill 3 phantoms with 1 mag. They lined up perfectly. Even without consumables, on level X, it's absolutely lethal.

So his Reegar X cannot even kill 1, yet you're saying you can kill 3? That's... logical.

Oh, 'they lined up perfectly', does that mean they were all sat behind cover in a line and you could just hit them in the face to drop them instantly? Cos from my experience that's the only time Phantoms drop like a sack of potatoes.


He was using a GI, think cloak dmg and hunter dmg. I've killed two hunters that lined up with a claymore with my GI, must be be time to nerf Claymore!

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Stardusk wrote...

 This weapon is beyond broken. It is an abomination.

www.youtube.com/watch


Nice way to brag... -_-

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XxTaLoNxX wrote...

But if the guns is a "win button" then how is that possible?
Oh, because getting that close to an enemy is nearly suicide on Gold for people who aren't SKILLED enough to do it.

That's balanced.

You have to give a trooper a reach-around in order to kill them with the Reegar.

Come off it Starduck, people who once respected you are starting to lose respect for you. Your crusade to nerf ALL the guns is actually starting to annoy a lot of people.

:whistle:

Well, I quess it needs no skill. Let people hack their game content.

F**k no. Go play GTA on easy mode if you want to win without much challenge. Or any sandbox games on easy difficulties.

There's no need to learn some tricks and tactics to beat gold challenge?

That's what you say; we should have more people who throw insults at you just being nice and trying to make the game worth while?

Just because there's no PvP in ME3 multiplayer, it's not a good excuse to have imbalance.
CoD is worst example of Co-operative/Teamplay Game, since your buddies in it will likely leave you to death because there weren't enemies for few seconds ago.