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[tonnactus]

Immortal Strife wrote...
 I can equip a Reageer and a Krysae and the two combined weigh as much as my Javelin X, which is a crazy weight to damage ratio.

The javelin has an inbuilt hunters sight and could shoot through 1 m thick cover.

[Kingston Atticus]

Mozts wrote...

Proposal? Besides killing the Batman.

What?! No killing me.......er.......... I mean him!!!!! *hides costume and xbox gamer tag to avoid getting killed*

[your-friendly-noggin]

tonnactus wrote...

your-friendly-noggin wrote...

Because the hurricane is an weekend challenge weapon, at most people might have hurricane V,

The Hurricane 1 is enough with rate of fire Marksmen evolution. But its strange that the Harrier is an N7 weapon but the reegar isnt. But it doesnt matter if one weapon is more available then the other: Both weapons have a very short range but high damage.
Both,but especially the Hurricane is very light regarding the damage they deal(the Hurricane is far more unbalanced because it deals more damage then a revenant/and the revenant has only one advantage: the magazine)
And only some classes could use those weapons effectively.
By the way, krogans couldnt dodge too.

Availbability matters completely, if the reegar was an ultra rare then it might be less of a problem as people wouldn't have X's, but it's not even that, it's a rare! That's the bit that boggles my mind XD. 
And I often fight close range with soldier, vanguard, sentinel and infiltrator, so really I can only see it not being effective on adepts.

Neither can batarians but the hurricanes 'OP' style is only on turian really.

[Sdrol117]

 Not broken.

[BloodClaw95]

So did you see your topic yet?

[Applepie_Svk]

tonnactus wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...
 I can equip a Reageer and a Krysae and the two combined weigh as much as my Javelin X, which is a crazy weight to damage ratio.

The javelin has an inbuilt hunters sight and could shoot through 1 m thick cover.

It´s all nice but Javelin has reload time big like a mamoth and this two weapons are just differend LoL

[Feneckus]

Another video that shows how ridiculous this gun is :

 

14 minutes without even using rockets. That's insane.

tonnactus wrote...

Funny that no one complains about the hurricane on a turian soldier...
www.youtube.com/watch

That was before the patch, when shots to the canopy would count twice with AP mod or ammo. Now it takes twice as long.

[your-friendly-noggin]

Feneckus wrote...

Another video that shows how ridiculous this gun is :

 

14 minutes without even using rockets. That's insane.

tonnactus wrote...

Funny that no one complains about the hurricane on a turian soldier...
www.youtube.com/watch

That was before the patch, when shots to the canopy would count twice with AP mod or ammo. Now it takes twice as long.

I take my comment about adepts being the only ones the reegar wouldn't be effective on back

[Drummernate]

That gun is totally not overpowered....

Plenty of other guns do that at ANY range, not just point blank.

The Krysae lets me get 16:30~ clear times with randoms that are not even good.

My Saber lets me get 18:00~ clear times with randoms.

My Geth Melee lets me get 18:00~ clear times with randoms... in a 360 degree radius.

My Javelin lets me get ~20:00 clear times with only 3 people.

Modifié par Drummernate, 02 juin 2012 - 06:32 .

[tonnactus]

your-friendly-noggin wrote...

Availbability matters completely, i

No. Availabity one decides how many people have a gun. To decide if a gun is strong or not(or "overpowered") someone has to compare their advantages and disadvantages. And regarding that Ulm works now(at least on the xbox) this makes the hurricane even more "overpowered".

Neither can batarians but the hurricanes 'OP' style is only on turian really.

The hurricane does more damage then a revenant(a really heavy assault rifle),with or without markmen while also allowing to not only reach a decent cooldown for powers but also to add a additional weapon like a pistol.The recoil also isnt a problem with the right armor mod.

[tonnactus]

Feneckus wrote...

Another video that shows how ridiculous this gun is :

 

Extra grenade gear overpowered!!!

[TheLustyElcor]

I'm not one to call for nerfs, but really?

Anyone who claims this thing is not OP doesn't know jack about game balance. I have it at level X and wow. I don't think i should be able to melt banshee, atlas etc. in 10 seconds on a level one character on GOLD by myself. Sure it is fun for now, but this thing will hurt the game in the long run in it's current state.

Pretty much turns most of the weapons obsolete and saps any sort of challenge gold has.
encourages rambo behavior which hurts the team dynamic.

This thing IS going to get nerfed for sure. Enjoy while it lasts!
As for the people slamming the OP. Grow up.

[MoeRayShep]

Yeah, as awesome as they are it's pretty easy to see how the Krysae and Reegar are both pretty clearly OP-- they should at the very least weigh a whole lot more.
It's still quite possible to die if you're not very good, or if you're decent but your teammates are clueless; but that doesn't change the fact that these guns definitely remove a lot of the difficulty from Gold with even minor competence.

[Fioxnoa]

TheLustyElcor wrote...

I'm not one to call for nerfs, but really?

Anyone who claims this thing is not OP doesn't know jack about game balance. I have it at level X and wow. I don't think i should be able to melt banshee, atlas etc. in 10 seconds on a level one character on GOLD by myself. Sure it is fun for now, but this thing will hurt the game in the long run in it's current state.

Pretty much turns most of the weapons obsolete and saps any sort of challenge gold has.
encourages rambo behavior which hurts the team dynamic.

This thing IS going to get nerfed for sure. Enjoy while it lasts!
As for the people slamming the OP. Grow up.

Stuff like this makes me lol try the lvl x reegar with no  buffs at all its mediocre at best same for the krys on a non infil  class IF YOU SETUP FOR  IT their strong otherwise no most nerf criers have no clue what their talking  about

Modifié par Fioxnoa, 02 juin 2012 - 06:45 .

[Lucius Aelius]

What's insane is how people don't realize a skilled enough player can dominate with any gun, none of these videos proves anything else. The Reegar may be a powerful weapon, but it is also a very limited one. Using it effectively actually takes skill, and of course what character you use it on makes a big difference.

A powerful weapon on a powerful character will always be a powerful combination. Stop using examples thereof to prove it's overpowered, you'll keep coming out looking foolish. It is well balanced for what it is, the ONLY gun in the game you absolutely need to be right next to the enemy to hit, every other weapon has actual range to it, and anyone skilled enough to use it effectively (on any character besides a Krogan or Infiltrator) would easily do better with another weapon.

Until I see people passing up their GPS for a Reegar, there is no call whatsoever to say the Reegar is overpowered. The GPS is the gold standard of OP and everything else still falls short in comparison, even the Krysae (although that comes a fair bit closer).

The Reegar is NOT overpowered, do not nerf it.

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[lpconfig]

Lucius Aelius wrote...

What's insane is how people don't realize a skilled enough player can dominate with any gun, none of these videos proves anything else. The Reegar may be a powerful weapon, but it is also a very limited one. Using it effectively actually takes skill, and of course what character you use it on makes a big difference.

A powerful weapon on a powerful character will always be a powerful combination. Stop using examples thereof to prove it's overpowered, you'll keep coming out looking foolish. It is well balanced for what it is, the ONLY gun in the game you absolutely need to be right next to the enemy to hit, every other weapon has actual range to it, and anyone skilled enough to use it effectively (on any character besides a Krogan or Infiltrator) would easily do better with another weapon.

Until I see people passing up their GPS for a Reegar, there is no call whatsoever to say the Reegar is overpowered. The GPS is the gold standard of OP and everything else still falls short in comparison, even the Krysae (although that comes a fair bit closer).

The Reegar is NOT overpowered, do not nerf it.

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/facepalm

[eldrjth]

I wouldnt say its OP. its highly effective with the krogan vanguard like you showed in the vid. the vanguard can regain shields and get bonus weapon dmg after a biotic charge and can also tank a lot lot of dmg. if you try it on a GI you might get shot to pieces, that is the threat of getting into close range but its not a prob for the krogan or vorcha for that matter though he doesnt have the convenient instant move into range ability. the krysae is the more effective weapon imo and it takes the hassle out of playing with total noobs.

[Zkyire]

Stardusk has posted videos of him SOLOING GOLD matches.

Now he posts a video of him playing with a full team of gold players.

And that's proof that the gun is OP.

wut.

[We Tigers]

I'm still waiting to hear how an easy-to-shoot weapon is that different from launching homing or instant cast tech/biotic powers, which is what half the classes in this game do. Different playstyles, different players. I understand there may be some factors of this gun that could be changed, but let's not implicitly dismiss half the classes in the game chiefly because "you don't have to aim with the Reegar."

[mdloafer]

Zjarcal wrote...

1. MAKE IT MUCH HEAVIER:

2. SHORTEN THE CLIP SIZE (and maybe the overall ammo capacity too):

3. GIVE IT A PENALTY AGAINST ARMOR:

The weapon does need some changes, but even as it is right now, I don't believe it breaks the game at all.

I think these changes make perfect sense, and I'd like to add just one:

4. Remove the headshot bonus: true, this doesn't apply to "bosses", but I have noticed that I do way more damage to non-bosses when I take the time to aim at the head.  Considering the fact that this thing seems to be firing in a CONE, a headshot bonus makes no sense.

On the plus side, and I haven't seen much mention of this, but I think the idea of the Reegar and the Flamer ability is VERY cool.  I hope BW doesn't do much to change the nature of either of these, because I think they both add some neat variety to the weapons we already have.  Whether you like the gun or hate it, there is no other weapon in the game like the Reegar, and I like that we're seeing some very different approaches to guns.

[drmoose00]

Amano Kazumi wrote...

It's a VERY good gun for sure, but you're using it on one of the better (best!?) characters for it in the game, the Krogan Vanguard. He can reliably enter and exit the effective range of the Reegar because of Biotic Charge (which buffs the damage) and his extreme tankiness, both of which circumvent the standard weakness of both the Reegar and the relatively low damage the Kroguard normally exhibits.

This video shows this combo, which is fantastic and possibly the best way to use the Kroguard. Beyond that, I'm not convinced it tops the safety and versatility of the GPS/Krysae.

I think it finally makes it so we'll see some other classes on gold besides infiltrators and engineers...

[BlackoutOmega]

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par BlackoutOmega, 02 juin 2012 - 06:57 .

[DM Clone 1]

Use that gun in PUB games without your firend and every sec when you find your self in crossfire that gun will be your best firend...