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[Stardusk]

Aifell_Ellion wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/10373556/2

Stardusk wrote...

Graal, Claymore...

I belive your favorite weapons are graal and claymore, why wont you just use them if you dont like reegar?

I do.

[nicethugbert]

Stardusk wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

I used the gun. Then I put it away and used other guns. It does not ruin the game for me. It's one more thing to have to play with.

AND, if you think it is OP, what about Mauraders who I put 4 shotguns shells into their face at point blank and they just keep going, NO STAGGER, from a Disciple. How about head shots that do only 2 or 3 bars of shield damage? Don't get me started on the Geth and their staggers.

Reallty, something is wrong with the mechanics in this game on the enemies side.

The Disciple occupies the other end of the broken spectrum. It is brokenly horrible. Why would you use it?

Disciple should be a great gun for power spamming.  Low weight, good rof for a shotgun, 4 shots magazine.  But, BW buffed the enemies so much that it's just a hair dryer now, or the measure of true skill.  Disciple X and Phalanx X used to be a good set up for power focused classes.

I noticed you get about 10-15 feet of range on the reeger.  I've had no such luck with it.  I've had to get in melee distance to melt things.  So, consider that and how broken point blank range and stagger, etc., is to the enemy's advantage.  I think you should be able to see how the reeger isn't so bad then.  It's a dose of their own medicine. 


Consider all the players who are just decoys thanks to tactical cloak.  My scores could be better too if I used tactical cloak.  I could die a lot less often too if I used tac cloak.  But, I get bored doing the same thing all the time, so I  end up playing all the classes, but least of all infiltrator.  It just seems like exploitation.

Modifié par nicethugbert, 02 juin 2012 - 10:37 .

[SlimJim0725]

@Killahead: Stardusk obviously has a major issue with the gun taking "no skill" as he mentioned it 30 times (exaggeration, but you get my point) in the 5 or so mins I watched before I couldn't take hearing him anymore and stopped the video. Not every can dodge bullets or time a charge correctly. Laurencium has a valid point because any thread saying "gun is broken, nerf this, nerf that" will draw attention especially of moderators and my guess the balancer(s). Why are people not allowed to voice their opinion simply because you don't agree?

Not every person is as good as another and them having access to good weapons and not being a handicap is a good thing. I can choose to use it or not, I can choose to leave or kick a player if I don't like what they use. Isn't having options a good thing? Some of us are playing for ourselves to enjoy it believe it or not. I personally enjoy the game more when my teammates can kill enemies and I don't care what they use to do it.

[DarkSpooky]

And this is why I have no faith in my species. The OP is acting like a whining child, many who support him are following out of a herd mentality (nerf he say nerf? NERF IT!) and those who are flaming him do so because he wants to fix what he considers broken and if that happens they think the world will end.

How about every fragging moron who has posted in one of these god-forsaken threads GO PLAY THE DAMN GAME AND STOP WHINING.

Star, it has been said, I will say it once myself. No like? No use. If the devs think it needs a fix, they will get around to it. Till then stop crying about this matter.

Do keep in mind Star, I sure as hell do not agree, but to call you names is in rather bad tastes.

Modifié par DarkSpooky, 02 juin 2012 - 10:30 .

[FrOoOstBite]

ElectroNeonPanda wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Creating another thread was necessary?

It's the internet equivalent of an attention-starved child wailing and flailing its arms about.

Lol
http://t2.gstatic.co...zZw_zJc4HuEDusZ

[lpconfig]

Air Quotes wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Only 100.000? With a KV and Reegar? That's not a lot.

I was playing with very good players, everyone was using the Reegar. I also got instant killed so sat out a wave. And this not about the score if you actually listed to my argument. It is about point, don't aim, die.

You were 3 manning Gold and didn't score more than any skilled player could score with a BW or Valiant or Claymore. And even the time wasn't that fast. This gun doesn't require alot of practice to use, but you need skill to survive up close and not be killed or insta-killed. 

Straw man time!  You really beat the crap out of the fallacy you constructed to defuse, now try again and actually address the points he made.

[zRz Tyr]

In comparison to all other weapons, that gun is OP.

[DanielsMind]

wow you speak for everyone? keep your damn opinion to yourself just don't use it easy as that.

[Someone With Mass]

tallinn wrote...

I support Stardusk's idea to make it less effective vs. armor. After all, it is a weapon that fires an electric ray. Now why should that melt armor? And as it doesn't shoot ammo, ammo buffs should not work at all on that weapon.

And to the guys that hate nerf threads. I do as well but this time I think that gun makes the game too easy and thus boring. And it makes it too easy for the whole team. It won't help just not to equip the weapon on your own character. If it's in the match you're playing you are screwed.

You are aware that there are welding tools that are using electricity, right? My oven is using electricity.

And to make electricity jump that far, you'd need the power of a couple of million volts. That's pretty damn hot.

As for the constant "oh, it's overpowered" I can say that almost every other weapon is that too when you have like four buffers on it. If it becomes boring to use, then you always have the option to NOT use it.

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DanielsMind wrote...

wow you speak for everyone? keep your damn opinion to yourself just don't use it easy as that.

It is my opinion that you should keep your opinion about other other people's opinions to yourself, but I didnt keep my opinion to myself either.

[nicethugbert]

Stinja wrote...

I'm not really seeing the problem?

You have a close range gun, on a very durable character, on a close range(ish) map, killing things at close range - isn't this all as intended?

If one has optimal conditions for sniper rifles: infiltrators with sniper rifles, on a long ange map killing things at long range - does that make them the most broken weapon(s) in the game?

If you took the Reegar to Giant, and had everyone in the sniper room shooting the far spawns, how would the Reegar compare then? Bottom of the score list - should i do a video and demand it be buffed so I'm not seeing the problem. It's meant to be brutal at super close range, much like a sniper rifle is not, and visa versa.

Personally I'm just sad the store won't unlock it for me (15 PSPs and counting...) to try myself.

THIS!  It is situational.  Lets consider everything else before we pronounce it broken.

Modifié par nicethugbert, 02 juin 2012 - 10:50 .

[tallinn]

Someone With Mass wrote...

tallinn wrote...

And to the guys that hate nerf threads. I do as well but this time I think that gun makes the game too easy and thus boring. And it makes it too easy for the whole team. It won't help just not to equip the weapon on your own character. If it's in the match you're playing you are screwed.

As for the constant "oh, it's overpowered" I can say that almost every other weapon is that too when you have like four buffers on it. If it becomes boring to use, then you always have the option to NOT use it.

You obviously did not read what I said about this. Then, please, don't quote it.

[Javo2357]

newman982 wrote...

DanielsMind wrote...

wow you speak for everyone? keep your damn opinion to yourself just don't use it easy as that.

It is my opinion that you should keep your opinion about other other people's opinions to yourself, but I didnt keep my opinion to myself either.

LOL

[DanielsMind]

newman982 wrote...

DanielsMind wrote...

wow you speak for everyone? keep your damn opinion to yourself just don't use it easy as that.

It is my opinion that you should keep your opinion about other other people's opinions to yourself, but I didnt keep my opinion to myself either.

why the hostility?

[DanielsMind]

the word "nerf" is used to much.

[lpconfig]

DanielsMind wrote...

newman982 wrote...

DanielsMind wrote...

wow you speak for everyone? keep your damn opinion to yourself just don't use it easy as that.

It is my opinion that you should keep your opinion about other other people's opinions to yourself, but I didnt keep my opinion to myself either.

why the silly?

Fixed.  No need to curse at people on a public forum about a game.  You seem to be getting too worked up.

[laurencium]

Stardusk wrote...

The Disciple occupies the other end of the broken spectrum. It is brokenly horrible. Why would you use it?

Because guns like Graal and Claymore are OP. Too many things get one-shotted. You only have to aim once, very little skill required. With the Disciple, you have to headshot many times just to kill a mob. Its damage also drops tremendously at long range. Takes real skills to use this gun. Graal and Claymore, not so much. Just like the GPS, for newbies only. Oh yea, and it doesn't take a lot of skills to use Graal and Claymore.

[Mystical_Gaming]

I had a few people in my silver lobbies using that gun and it seemed alright to me. They didn't run away with top score or decimate everything. I'm just glad they were able to kill the annoying enemies like phantoms quickly.

[lpconfig]

laurencium wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

The Disciple occupies the other end of the broken spectrum. It is brokenly horrible. Why would you use it?

Because guns like Graal and Claymore are OP. Too many things get one-shotted. You only have to aim once, very little skill required. With the Disciple, you have to headshot many times just to kill a mob. Its damage also drops tremendously at long range. Takes real skills to use this gun. Graal and Claymore, not so much. Just like the GPS, for newbies only. Oh yea, and it doesn't take a lot of skills to use Graal and Claymore.

Many straw men have breathed their last in this thread.

[DanielsMind]

newman982 wrote...

DanielsMind wrote...

newman982 wrote...

DanielsMind wrote...

wow you speak for everyone? keep your damn opinion to yourself just don't use it easy as that.

It is my opinion that you should keep your opinion about other other people's opinions to yourself, but I didnt keep my opinion to myself either.

why the silly?

Fixed.  No need to curse at people on a public forum about a game.  You seem to be getting too worked up.

OK I'm am sorry my friends left to first firday without me, you see why I am so moody =(

[StrawHatMoose]

I still don't get it. It's not a PvP game where a really powerful weapon would be bad but it's not. It's co op. you have the option to use it. No one is forcing you to use it. There are much better guns than the reegar e.g the claymore, gps, falcon, krysae, black widow, javelin, geth heavy melee. Why nerf a weapon that only works in close range. If it worked at any other range i would call for a nerf. Sou solution is make it the same weight as a gps or claymore no shredder mod on it and buff damage slightly and decrease fire rate.

[Aifell_Ellion]

Stinja wrote...

I'm not really seeing the problem?

You have a close range gun, on a very durable character, on a close range(ish) map, killing things at close range - isn't this all as intended?

If one has optimal conditions for sniper rifles: infiltrators with sniper rifles, on a long ange map killing things at long range - does that make them the most broken weapon(s) in the game?

If you took the Reegar to Giant, and had everyone in the sniper room shooting the far spawns, how would the Reegar compare then? Bottom of the score list - should i do a video and demand it be buffed so I'm not seeing the problem. It's meant to be brutal at super close range, much like a sniper rifle is not, and visa versa.

Personally I'm just sad the store won't unlock it for me (15 PSPs and counting...) to try myself.

Yea, this thread makes no sense, until you will make a video of using reegar on on giant, all sitting in control room. And then try to say "oh, its overpowered... or at least it 's better than my favorite claymore". [Greatfully] Anyway, human, thanks for letting me have fun on you, cuz you really look like a 3yo child whining about his older brother, who's being given a better toy.

Modifié par Aifell_Ellion, 02 juin 2012 - 10:44 .

[DanielsMind]

StrawHatMoose wrote...

I still don't get it. It's not a PvP game where a really powerful weapon would be bad but it's not. It's co op. you have the option to use it. No one is forcing you to use it. There are much better guns than the reegar e.g the claymore, gps, falcon, krysae, black widow, javelin, geth heavy melee. Why nerf a weapon that only works in close range. If it worked at any other range i would call for a nerf. Sou solution is make it the same weight as a gps or claymore no shredder mod on it and buff damage slightly and decrease fire rate.

I love you, why can't people be more positive like this?

[lpconfig]

Ghost is an excellent sniper map with a huge distance between enemy spawn points. Case in point, there are few maps better for sniping or any larger, except maybe hydra or giant.