Lately I have been getting in some akward games. Usually I can tell there is something unusual because of how the game responds. Usually at times i see people fire their gun endlessly for some random reason and even fire there gun while reviveing people and running. Usually I can tell whoes doing in from seeing their gunfire constantly come from there gun or gun stuck somehow and run in a place. I have even seen people play games and not die but that has been on a rare occasion while the constant fire thing has been more common place. Usually I can also tell when it's been activated by a lag spirt. This always seems to be causeing alo of problems during my game as well:
-Ammo boxes usually contain 1 or no gernades before,during, and after the round is over.
-This hasn't happened to me but some of my team mates have experinced sudden moments of "Teleportation" where they would be somewhere one minute then be at the far end of somewhere else and be like "What the heck!?" I have not experinced this at all.
- I cannot fire my gun. (Apparently useing Heavy melee fixes this)
-My gun keeps fireing and reloading without my say so.(apparently useing Heavy Melee fixes this)
-I have to reload 2-4 times to reload my gun after I reloaded my gun.
-Kill points from the harpoon gun do not register. I see the kill getting mentioned by my tag name, weapon used and [Target name] but not the points.
This to me seems to be an ongoing problem. I have been reporting this via the XBOX report system because this seems to be seriously messing with the game. It also seems to be effecting mine and others gameplay when this occurs.
Now if it seems like I have reported anyone here I didn't mean to because I do not know if this is a hack, cheat, lag or glitch. I am also not sure if anyone feels like they have been effected by this. All I knoiw is this seems to be not normal because it seems like it has caused these problems for me at least during my games with these people that have this.
Hack, cheat, glitch, or lag?
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NaclynE
, juin 02 2012 09:50
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Posté 05 juin 2012 - 01:28
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Bump since people been reporting alot of stuff lately.
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Posté 05 juin 2012 - 09:59
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All of this sounds like a case of some nasty internet issues, either on your side, theirs, or some terrible combination of both. I wouldn't be reporting people unless you are 100% they have tampered with their Xbox or internet with the intentions of disrupting others or gaining an unfair advantage, instead of just having crappy internet.
- The "endless firing of guns" is a well-known graphical glitch that occurs very often in multiplayer. The player is not actually firing their gun, the muzzle flash animation is just stuck on.
- The teleporting is probably from lag or dropped packets, both caused by a bad connection.
- Ammo boxes only contain a certain amount of grenades at one time, and have a delay before more are generated. If it was used recently by yourself or others, you will have to wait for more grenades to be spawned over time.
- Randomly reloading and fake reloads also sound like they are caused from a bad connection. Your game sends the info that you reloaded to the host, but either the packet containing said info was dropped, causing you to have to reload again and thus resend the packet, or the packet took a long time to reach the host (lag) and didn't reload until some time after you pressed the reload button.
- Not sure about your gun firing. It could be the previously mentioned graphical glitch; your gun isn't actually firing, it just appears to be. If it's actually shooting bullets, using ammo and damaging enemies, then I'm not entirely sure what causes that, might be a glitch on your end. All I can say is that has never happened to me, and I have a latency of about 250ms, where as the average user should have latency below or around 50ms. If you have exceptionally terrible internet service, i.e. Dial-Up or God forbid, HughesNet, then latency might probably be the cause.
- Finally, the non-registered kill points. I've had this happen before in a sense, and more-so with projectile weapons. It won't say that I've earned any points for the kill, but I'm pretty certain it still counted on the scoreboard. If not, it could possibly be mistaking you as the owner of the kill, when it was in fact another player. If you've had so many other problems, I wouldn't doubt that it's possible.
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Posté 10 juin 2012 - 03:51
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Well a couple of the things seem possible but frankly I still beg to differ about it.
1- Just being planeily "Lag" or "A bad connection". USually when it's "Lag" or "Bad connection" I would more or less see Geth soldiers walk above my head or they would suddenly teleport away from me while I am trying to shoot them. There have been moments my hits will not register or would be a delay for the registration hit. Like I would fire my shotgun and nothing happens to the health meter. However about 15-30 seconds later their health would deplete or would die depending on what kind of gun I am useing. I still swear it's not really my connection causing all of this but mainly the hosts since i know what my connection can or cannot do for me. I've played COD games to know my games capicity and know whats "Normal and not normal" for this game. Also the endless fireing does register because my character would say something like "Stop it!" or whatever after they get ressurected or so have to be in front of them when their doing it.
2- The gernade box thing I understand but I find hard to believe that your saying "All of the ammo boxes" have the same waiting time. I went to all of the ammo boxes in a single round and 1 or 2 would give me 1 while 3 or 4 ammo boxes carry no gernades. Frankly I doubt the other 3 players i team with would spend a whole round of trying to find gernades like I am since most of them rather use sniper rifles and nothing else (who seem to always get the whole team killed all of the time) or play differantly from my builds.
3- You may be right about the fake relaods. This may be caused by a temp bad connection which has caused the ammo issue. It would be like I would be able to fire 110 shots for the geth SMG when the max should be 100. I would reload, blip (get 110 for some random reason), then reload for the actual 100 shots.
4- I don't think my gun fireing by itself is a graphic glitch. If it is why is my Wraith M11 going 2 to 1 then reload then 2 to 1 then relaod nonstop? My shots are connecting also. I killed a geth rocket in 6 shots because of this issue when I usually I can kill it in 1 or 2 depending on range and my natural game accuracy. The reason why it took me 6 was because my fireing was out of control and I couldn't stop fireing (both of my M-11 wraith shots) and relaoding until I preformed a heavy melee. Performing a heavy melee also stopped by gun changeing issue where for some reason I was forced to go to my assault rifle instead of my shotgun.
5- The " the non-registered kill points" Also sounds possible. However it doesn't count on the scoreboard at all. It's hard to give a scenario honestly because I had points not regsiter when I am haveing other people with sniper rfiles as well or even when I am alone. However when I am alone I probably may be across the way from someone else, It's hard to say. However from all of the sniper rifles I have tested the Harpoon gun seems to be a bit problematic in the hit/kill registration depratment while guns like the Mantis, Incisor, both widows, Krystae, and maybe a few others that I cant list off the top of my head seem to be glitch free. However Frankly I am not sure what the cause of this is. I am starting to feel like the harpoon gun is maybe just glitched. I have not been reporting people just for this reason.
I do appreciate the message back BlueA10. However frankly I do not have a capture device or any means to capture or record my games of multiplayer for the XBOX360 to get you to believe me. I feel like my reports have been just since either the "Hacker" would either come in first place when I swear me and the other people have gotten more kills and did more work than the "hacker", has caused another player (not me) the ability to not play multiplayer due to not being able to fire their weapon at all, cause the other players to teleport, or somehow caused the whole team to die in general. I doubt it's just a simple connection issue. there's more to it since I can tell.
1- Just being planeily "Lag" or "A bad connection". USually when it's "Lag" or "Bad connection" I would more or less see Geth soldiers walk above my head or they would suddenly teleport away from me while I am trying to shoot them. There have been moments my hits will not register or would be a delay for the registration hit. Like I would fire my shotgun and nothing happens to the health meter. However about 15-30 seconds later their health would deplete or would die depending on what kind of gun I am useing. I still swear it's not really my connection causing all of this but mainly the hosts since i know what my connection can or cannot do for me. I've played COD games to know my games capicity and know whats "Normal and not normal" for this game. Also the endless fireing does register because my character would say something like "Stop it!" or whatever after they get ressurected or so have to be in front of them when their doing it.
2- The gernade box thing I understand but I find hard to believe that your saying "All of the ammo boxes" have the same waiting time. I went to all of the ammo boxes in a single round and 1 or 2 would give me 1 while 3 or 4 ammo boxes carry no gernades. Frankly I doubt the other 3 players i team with would spend a whole round of trying to find gernades like I am since most of them rather use sniper rifles and nothing else (who seem to always get the whole team killed all of the time) or play differantly from my builds.
3- You may be right about the fake relaods. This may be caused by a temp bad connection which has caused the ammo issue. It would be like I would be able to fire 110 shots for the geth SMG when the max should be 100. I would reload, blip (get 110 for some random reason), then reload for the actual 100 shots.
4- I don't think my gun fireing by itself is a graphic glitch. If it is why is my Wraith M11 going 2 to 1 then reload then 2 to 1 then relaod nonstop? My shots are connecting also. I killed a geth rocket in 6 shots because of this issue when I usually I can kill it in 1 or 2 depending on range and my natural game accuracy. The reason why it took me 6 was because my fireing was out of control and I couldn't stop fireing (both of my M-11 wraith shots) and relaoding until I preformed a heavy melee. Performing a heavy melee also stopped by gun changeing issue where for some reason I was forced to go to my assault rifle instead of my shotgun.
5- The " the non-registered kill points" Also sounds possible. However it doesn't count on the scoreboard at all. It's hard to give a scenario honestly because I had points not regsiter when I am haveing other people with sniper rfiles as well or even when I am alone. However when I am alone I probably may be across the way from someone else, It's hard to say. However from all of the sniper rifles I have tested the Harpoon gun seems to be a bit problematic in the hit/kill registration depratment while guns like the Mantis, Incisor, both widows, Krystae, and maybe a few others that I cant list off the top of my head seem to be glitch free. However Frankly I am not sure what the cause of this is. I am starting to feel like the harpoon gun is maybe just glitched. I have not been reporting people just for this reason.
I do appreciate the message back BlueA10. However frankly I do not have a capture device or any means to capture or record my games of multiplayer for the XBOX360 to get you to believe me. I feel like my reports have been just since either the "Hacker" would either come in first place when I swear me and the other people have gotten more kills and did more work than the "hacker", has caused another player (not me) the ability to not play multiplayer due to not being able to fire their weapon at all, cause the other players to teleport, or somehow caused the whole team to die in general. I doubt it's just a simple connection issue. there's more to it since I can tell.
Modifié par NaclynE, 10 juin 2012 - 03:54 .
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Posté 10 juin 2012 - 04:06
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*Update*
I just noticed two wierd things in a game I had a few minutes ago:
1- A Drell Vanguard on a GOLD GAME I swear used 10 to 15 medigels. Also when he kept using the medigel he was constantly teleported to the ship area on FIREBASE WHITE. No he did not use BIOTIC CHARGE but he was trying to revive a teamate around 3 to 4 geth pyros (Which wasn't smart). I reported this because I swear he used 5 in the first round, survived then 5 to 10 more in round 2 then left the game because of this issue. I reported this.
2- On round three, It was a object pickup up mission. I grabbed the object and felt very umcomfortable playing this gold game since people seemed to not know how to play gold. I was trying to move, shoot and hide while still haveing the package and have the clock run out. On a minute left, somehow I dropped the package and a quarian male picked it up and was dropped. I was going to try to revive him but I was dropped after ward. There was a third and I thought fourth member and the game was considered "Failed" on the 56 second mark. The fourth member left (I think) and the third was still alive. Last time I checked the following causes you to drop objects:
running
diveing any direction
cloaking
jump off ledges
getting dropped by an enemy
If there is a time limit to how long you can hold an object that's news to me. I reported this because I am unaware of such a thing. I think someone caused me to somehow drop the object.
I just noticed two wierd things in a game I had a few minutes ago:
1- A Drell Vanguard on a GOLD GAME I swear used 10 to 15 medigels. Also when he kept using the medigel he was constantly teleported to the ship area on FIREBASE WHITE. No he did not use BIOTIC CHARGE but he was trying to revive a teamate around 3 to 4 geth pyros (Which wasn't smart). I reported this because I swear he used 5 in the first round, survived then 5 to 10 more in round 2 then left the game because of this issue. I reported this.
2- On round three, It was a object pickup up mission. I grabbed the object and felt very umcomfortable playing this gold game since people seemed to not know how to play gold. I was trying to move, shoot and hide while still haveing the package and have the clock run out. On a minute left, somehow I dropped the package and a quarian male picked it up and was dropped. I was going to try to revive him but I was dropped after ward. There was a third and I thought fourth member and the game was considered "Failed" on the 56 second mark. The fourth member left (I think) and the third was still alive. Last time I checked the following causes you to drop objects:
running
diveing any direction
cloaking
jump off ledges
getting dropped by an enemy
If there is a time limit to how long you can hold an object that's news to me. I reported this because I am unaware of such a thing. I think someone caused me to somehow drop the object.
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Posté 10 juin 2012 - 06:06
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1. Medigels, missiles and ammo packs had no limit when the game came out it was capped at 5 later. I have 16+ respec cards they are now capped at 3.
2. There is no xp or xtra cash for delivering the package to the individual carrier why would someone. Hack it out of your hands? Sounds like lag.
You seem very preoccupied and paranoid about cheating, try hosting so you don't have to worry as much and have Fun.
2. There is no xp or xtra cash for delivering the package to the individual carrier why would someone. Hack it out of your hands? Sounds like lag.
You seem very preoccupied and paranoid about cheating, try hosting so you don't have to worry as much and have Fun.
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Posté 10 juin 2012 - 06:13
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O yeah firebase white has a magic door the transports you back to extract zone if you die haha.
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Posté 10 juin 2012 - 06:25
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Ahhh good ol fire base white also agree you seem a bit paranoid about cheating relax dude enjoy the game. And about the reload thing I've had the same thing. I've also on occasion reloaded then started firing my weapon then it would magically reload for me again. Most likely lag with the reload thing.
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Posté 10 juin 2012 - 03:31
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NaclynE wrote...
*Update*
I just noticed two wierd things in a game I had a few minutes ago:
1- A Drell Vanguard on a GOLD GAME I swear used 10 to 15 medigels. Also when he kept using the medigel he was constantly teleported to the ship area on FIREBASE WHITE. No he did not use BIOTIC CHARGE but he was trying to revive a teamate around 3 to 4 geth pyros (Which wasn't smart). I reported this because I swear he used 5 in the first round, survived then 5 to 10 more in round 2 then left the game because of this issue. I reported this.
2- On round three, It was a object pickup up mission. I grabbed the object and felt very umcomfortable playing this gold game since people seemed to not know how to play gold. I was trying to move, shoot and hide while still haveing the package and have the clock run out. On a minute left, somehow I dropped the package and a quarian male picked it up and was dropped. I was going to try to revive him but I was dropped after ward. There was a third and I thought fourth member and the game was considered "Failed" on the 56 second mark. The fourth member left (I think) and the third was still alive. Last time I checked the following causes you to drop objects:
running
diveing any direction
cloaking
jump off ledges
getting dropped by an enemy
If there is a time limit to how long you can hold an object that's news to me. I reported this because I am unaware of such a thing. I think someone caused me to somehow drop the object.
As another poster said- you sound ultra paranoid dude
Half the things you've mentioned, (and I know you titled this to question whether it was a lag or a glitch or if it's cheating but you are not absorbing the info provided about known issues and what is clearly lag it seems) are known issues. Such as the Firebase White revival onto the landing pad- very known. If you die in the vicinity of the hallway out of the server room (a specific door not just any door) it will automatically transport you to the landing pad and revive you.
Also- yes the constant firing of the gun is a very well known glitch or whatever. It's been happening for a long time now. Some of the other things you listed are just plain lag or bad connection issues.
I'm kind of laughing yet wary of you- because honestly I'd hate to have my rating on XBL be dinged becuase some other player doesn't have the werewithal to notice that some of these issues are just the thorns of playing Mass Effect 3 multiplayer right now. Don't be so quick to assume that everyone is a cheater FFS.
Additionally- as for people being prepared to play on Gold difficulty- I would have to humbly say that perhaps you are not if everything you see is bound to spiral into some crazy paranoid reporting frenzy for you. Relax, play Silver for a few matches or something or do not play Gold unless you have your own crew of known players off your friends list or something.
Cheers!
