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[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

LiarasShield wrote...

And do you honestly thinking that nerfing any awesome or decent weapon that enters the rare or ultra rare category is gonna earn you smiles and rainbows from the community I think honestly not

It would from me. And atleast a few others here. 

[gimmethegepgun]

LiarasShield wrote...

and as I previously said make all the other rare weapons as powerful as the raegar this weapon does not need to be nerfed but perhaps the other gold weapons need to be whats hte opposite of nerfed upgraded or improved

I have a better idea:
How about instead of doing that, which will imminently lead to enemies being buffed due to overpowered weapons, and Uncommons being left in the dust, with players who don't have the patience to grind out credits for PSPs, instead, we nerf a gun that is ridiculously overpowered?

[LiarasShield]

Mozts wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Gold weapons don't need to be nerfed otherwise it destroy the purpose of them being gold weapons why would I waste the time of getting spectre packs if it isn't better stuff then in veteran or recruit packs seriously mysterious I think you lose this one

I think you have little awarness and don't realize how bad your arguement is. 
Your Arguement:

"I don't want gold weapons to be useless"
"So let's make non gold weapons useless" 

My arguement
"Gold weapons should be about equal but focus more on unique gameplay and intresting gun dynamics rather than point and shoot" 

And I believe a rare weapon should have more power or damage then other weapons that are not in the rare or above category

And that make sense, because Geth Riffle is as good as Reegar.

You're trolling. Rarity doesn't mean much for bioware. Find another reason.

Nerfing gold or ultra rare weapons to me is about nerfing the gun because you personally don't like it I will not support the idea of limiting or destroying decent or great weapons within the rare or ultra rare category

[LiarasShield]

gimmethegepgun wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

and as I previously said make all the other rare weapons as powerful as the raegar this weapon does not need to be nerfed but perhaps the other gold weapons need to be whats hte opposite of nerfed upgraded or improved

I have a better idea:
How about instead of doing that, which will imminently lead to enemies being buffed due to overpowered weapons, and Uncommons being left in the dust, with players who don't have the patience to grind out credits for PSPs, instead, we nerf a gun that is ridiculously overpowered?

My better idea is either don't use the gun or rare or ultra rare weapons then perhaps you won't feel the need to cry for nerfs?

[lpconfig]

gimmethegepgun wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

and as I previously said make all the other rare weapons as powerful as the raegar this weapon does not need to be nerfed but perhaps the other gold weapons need to be whats hte opposite of nerfed upgraded or improved

I have a better idea:
How about instead of doing that, which will imminently lead to enemies being buffed due to overpowered weapons, and Uncommons being left in the dust, with players who don't have the patience to grind out credits for PSPs, instead, we nerf a gun that is ridiculously overpowered?

I personally think the gun is very op and takes the fun out of the game, so i just dont use it.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

OblivionDawn wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

OblivionDawn wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

InTheZone wrote...

To all the nerf whiners out there: shut the **** up. I have a Reegar Carbine I and it demolishes everything on Gold. The point of a game? FUN. Want a challenge? Go use your ****ing Shruiken SMG.

I want fun and challenge. 

If you just want fun go play bronze. 

Or you could use a different weapon.

Or you could play on a difficulty that fits your skill level? 

The weapon you use isn't an indicator of your skill.

Sometimes people just want to have fun on Gold, so they grab a strong weapon so they can faceroll it. If they want to test their skill it's as easy as grabbing another weapon.

So you can grab another weapon. It's not up to Bioware to change the game just because you don't feel capable of changing the situation yourself.

Here's the flaw with your arguement. 
Gold was not meant to be there "Just for fun" it's a challenge level and without added challenge there's no point to it's exsistence. If you want to faceroll go play bronze. If i want to test my skill and build it should be with preferred weapon. Not one that makes no sense and has bad synergy as that is silly. 

So you can play another difficulty and remain as OP as ever. It's not up to Bioware to make the game easymode just because you don't feel capabaple of taking on gold without a OP weapon. 

[Xaijin]

The reegar is fine.

[LiarasShield]

if you feel the gun is too overpowered for it to be a RARE weapon then just don't use it


but think about it is a Arc shotgun it will have great damage and if it uses a whole clip continously then of course it will do great damage still no need to nerf a gold gun if you don't like it then just don't use it

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

LiarasShield wrote...

gimmethegepgun wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

and as I previously said make all the other rare weapons as powerful as the raegar this weapon does not need to be nerfed but perhaps the other gold weapons need to be whats hte opposite of nerfed upgraded or improved

I have a better idea:
How about instead of doing that, which will imminently lead to enemies being buffed due to overpowered weapons, and Uncommons being left in the dust, with players who don't have the patience to grind out credits for PSPs, instead, we nerf a gun that is ridiculously overpowered?

My better idea is either don't use the gun or rare or ultra rare weapons then perhaps you won't feel the need to cry for nerfs?

That idea is terrible. 

[ntrisley]

Cyonan wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Lol just saying nerfing rare or ultra rare weapons at max just is plain out silly why the hell would I ever want to use a rare weapon if it sucks or doesn't do any real decent damage like the variety of non rare weapons U-u?

A nerf doesn't make a weapon suck 100% of the time.

Though the Reegar doesn't need much of a nerf, considering what the Claymore or GPS can already do. Maybe just make it as heavy as the GPS.

Yeah...

If you're going to make it as heavy as the GPS, why not just make it a reskinned GPS?

It's not a GPS or Claymore. It's a lighter weapon, with high damage but a small clip and a "stream" fire rate. If you're running up on someone and it runs out of ammunition before that someone is dead--you are boned.

[gimmethegepgun]

Ok, OP, how about a hyperbolic example then?
Would you give players a weapon just as powerful as a Cobra but uses thermal clips, and then justify it's BLATANT level of bull**** by saying "It's Ultra-Rare!"?

[LiarasShield]

gimmethegepgun wrote...

Ok, OP, how about a hyperbolic example then?
Would you give players a weapon just as powerful as a Cobra but uses thermal clips, and then justify it's BLATANT level of bull**** by saying "It's Ultra-Rare!"?

Obviously if it does awesome damage and it is a ultra rare weapon then that makes sense so yeah then buddy

[gimmethegepgun]

LiarasShield wrote...

gimmethegepgun wrote...

Ok, OP, how about a hyperbolic example then?
Would you give players a weapon just as powerful as a Cobra but uses thermal clips, and then justify it's BLATANT level of bull**** by saying "It's Ultra-Rare!"?

Obviously if it does awesome damage and it is a ultra rare weapon then that makes sense so yeah then buddy

Yeah there's no way this thread isn't flame baiting by this point then.

[MC_Loki]

The Reegar doesn't need a nerf. It burns through ammo with a quickness, and you have to be almost point blank to really get the most out of it.

[LiarasShield]

you just wanna cry for nerfs because you personally don't like the weapon despite it being a ARC shotgun for RARE weapons so not my bad that you're so against it

[Cyonan]

ntrisley wrote...

Yeah...

If you're going to make it as heavy as the GPS, why not just make it a reskinned GPS?

It's not a GPS or Claymore. It's a lighter weapon, with high damage but a small clip and a "stream" fire rate. If you're running up on someone and it runs out of ammunition before that someone is dead--you are boned.

Mostly because it functions nothing like a GPS. I could have easily just said "Put it at the 2.0-1.4 weight range" since a lot of guns are in that range right now, and they aren't all GPS rekins.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

ntrisley wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Lol just saying nerfing rare or ultra rare weapons at max just is plain out silly why the hell would I ever want to use a rare weapon if it sucks or doesn't do any real decent damage like the variety of non rare weapons U-u?

A nerf doesn't make a weapon suck 100% of the time.

Though the Reegar doesn't need much of a nerf, considering what the Claymore or GPS can already do. Maybe just make it as heavy as the GPS.

Yeah...

If you're going to make it as heavy as the GPS, why not just make it a reskinned GPS?

It's not a GPS or Claymore. It's a lighter weapon, with high damage but a small clip and a "stream" fire rate. If you're running up on someone and it runs out of ammunition before that someone is dead--you are boned.

Unless you're a vangaurd,Infilly, Human soldier, Krogan, sentinel, or care to use an ammo pack.

The gun does have it's downsides no doubt. But they do not jusitify it's all around pwnge. IMO we should reduce it's armor damage and range a little. Maybe even reduce it's base health damage and make it an effective anti shield/barrier weapon as i think it should be. 

[curly haired boy]

the new guns are just another result of power inflation..

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

LiarasShield wrote...

you just wanna cry for nerfs because you personally don't like the weapon despite it being a ARC shotgun for RARE weapons so not my bad that you're so against it

It's my favorite weapon in the game....

Unless the nerf the weight it's probaly always going to be my favorite. I simply just ackowledge that it's A BIT over the top. 

It needs a few minor tweaks and it will be fine. 

[Tangster]

Cyonan wrote...

Mostly because it functions nothing like a GPS. I could have easily just said "Put it at the 2.0-1.4 weight range" since a lot of guns are in that range right now, and they aren't all GPS rekins.

You're using common sense on the BSN forums! Does not compute!

[LiarasShield]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

ntrisley wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Lol just saying nerfing rare or ultra rare weapons at max just is plain out silly why the hell would I ever want to use a rare weapon if it sucks or doesn't do any real decent damage like the variety of non rare weapons U-u?

A nerf doesn't make a weapon suck 100% of the time.

Though the Reegar doesn't need much of a nerf, considering what the Claymore or GPS can already do. Maybe just make it as heavy as the GPS.

Yeah...

If you're going to make it as heavy as the GPS, why not just make it a reskinned GPS?

It's not a GPS or Claymore. It's a lighter weapon, with high damage but a small clip and a "stream" fire rate. If you're running up on someone and it runs out of ammunition before that someone is dead--you are boned.

Unless you're a vangaurd,Infilly, Human soldier, Krogan, sentinel, or care to use an ammo pack.

The gun does have it's downsides no doubt. But they do not jusitify it's all around pwnge. IMO we should reduce it's armor damage and range a little. Maybe even reduce it's base health damage and make it an effective anti shield/barrier weapon as i think it should be. 

You know why the new gear slot was added so that you can add upgrades to make your character stronger or have a better chance on gold

Once again nerfing A ARC shotgun that is a rare weapons seems silly

And The new gear slot was added to make everybody have a fighting chance only gold anyway

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

MC_Loki wrote...

The Reegar doesn't need a nerf. It burns through ammo with a quickness, and you have to be almost point blank to really get the most out of it.

Ammo is too easy to get to make that a signiifigant downside. And most people don't realize that it only takes a quarter of a clip to take out 1 centurion if you do it right. People burn through this faster than they need to. 

[Cyonan]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Unless you're a vangaurd,Infilly, Human soldier, Krogan, sentinel, or care to use an ammo pack.

The gun does have it's downsides no doubt. But they do not jusitify it's all around pwnge. IMO we should reduce it's armor damage and range a little. Maybe even reduce it's base health damage and make it an effective anti shield/barrier weapon as i think it should be. 

The problem with armour damage is that it gets the damage reduction from a global armour damage reduction variable, so changing that would affect every weapon(and we could still just pump it full of AP effects). There isn't an armour damage modifier variable as far as I know, though the shield damage modifier for it(and overload's) is hidden from us as well, so it could be possible.

Though I do get that Kroguards would be upset about it. At the same time it feels a bit silly that my Drell Adept can use it without sacrificing any meaningful amount of cooldowns.

Modifié par Cyonan, 02 juin 2012 - 08:00 .

[DarthSliver]

People want things nerf because they cant use them properly are losing kills because of the weapon, has nothing to do with it needing to be nerf rather than people not being on the top of the score chart. People that whine nerf are on the bottom of the score board, maybe i should whine nerf for Vorcha because i cant make it a beast like ive heard others can do with it. Its a simple fact people want things nerf because they cant use that item or class, if anything needs nerfing its biotic explosions. You can use that to your advantage in many matches and the method can be used to beat the game on Insanity, talk about broken.