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[Frost Spectre]

People opposing nerfs prolly switch game faster.

But what ever...

[OblivionDawn]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Ever stop and think i might like the weapon because of how it feels and synergizes with my class choice rather than it being OP? and maybe a nerf to the gun dosen't mean it will become completley useless? Rather it will just no longer be the best option for every class and won't make all other CQC guns terrible in comparison? 

and if the skill of others is effecting the balance choices the devs make for the game i think i have every right to comment on it. 

How many good lightweight shotguns are there? 


The only ones i can get 200% recharge with are evisc,katana, and scimitar with my current  manifest. There's a high level wraith, but i'm never getting that. 

So you're saying you want a nerf, but you don't want it nerfed in a way that will hurt your build (weight increase).

Lol.

By the way, you don't need max cooldowns to be effective with a class. A Kroguard with a Claymore is quite effective.

[LiarasShield]

Tangster wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...
I'd bet your ass wether you're using the raegar or not I'll still outscore or be near your score with my krogan vanguard at any time

Given I normally play female Quarian Engineer with a Saber, most people outscore me. I place 2nd or 3rd much more often than 1st.

Just saying I'm willing to shut the people crying about nerfs because this gun is so overpowered because it is a upclose lightning gun that is rare up by outscoreing them with my krogan vanguard and proving to them otherwise that it is not so overpowerd

[lpconfig]

Cyonan wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

I don't want to take that chance, cough, Falcon, cough.

The Falcon is one of the best(if not the best) Assault Rifles in the game right now, even with the nerf.

This.

[Holiday]

Cyonan wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

I don't want to take that chance, cough, Falcon, cough.

The Falcon is one of the best(if not the best) Assault Rifles in the game right now, even with the nerf.

That's still not saying much, though.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Xaijin wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Cyonan wrote...


A nerf doesn't make a weapon suck 100% of the time.

I don't want to take that chance, cough, Falcon, cough.

But the falcon dosen't suck. 

Yes, yes it does. It's a gimmick gun now, for gimmick builds. The Striker owns the falcon in every dept except stun. "Support assault rifle" is literally and actually as ridiculous as it sounds.

Wtf am i reading?

Someone actually likes the Striker?
The stun is the whole reason you use the falcon and it's amazing. Phantoms become a non threat with that gun. I'd call that pretty useful .

[gimmethegepgun]

LiarasShield wrote...

Again rare gold arc shotgun

A shot gun at close quarters should of course be doing awesome damage espically if the Arc shotgun

If the arc gun is like a lightning gun that shoots lightning or electricty at the targets upclsoe once again see no need to nerf this shotgun

"I can fire tactical nukes at the enemy with this here machinegun! No, it doesn't need nerfing, it's a tactical nuke machinegun, that's what tactical nuke machineguns do!"

[Cyonan]

Holiday wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

The Falcon is one of the best(if not the best) Assault Rifles in the game right now, even with the nerf.

That's still not saying much, though.

It's actually saying quite a bit.

Assault Rifles are the most underrated weapon class on the BSN. They're quite good for the most part when used right.

[LiarasShield]

gimmethegepgun wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Again rare gold arc shotgun

A shot gun at close quarters should of course be doing awesome damage espically if the Arc shotgun

If the arc gun is like a lightning gun that shoots lightning or electricty at the targets upclsoe once again see no need to nerf this shotgun

"I can fire tactical nukes at the enemy with this here machinegun! No, it doesn't need nerfing, it's a tactical nuke machinegun, that's what tactical nuke machineguns do!"

Yup are you trying to prove a point cause if so it really isn't breaking any ground lol

[whalewhisker]

Cyonan wrote...

Holiday wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

The Falcon is one of the best(if not the best) Assault Rifles in the game right now, even with the nerf.

That's still not saying much, though.

It's actually saying quite a bit.

Assault Rifles are the most underrated weapon class on the BSN. They're quite good for the most part when used right.

Honestly the facts that the Falcon stuns with every shot if pretty amazing on its own right.

[lpconfig]

Falcon is very strong. Saber is excellent in terms of dps and accuracy, and can shoot many more shots than a similarly damaging paladin. Harrier is simply very damaging, if lacking in ammo capacity. All are very good in their own way.

[gimmethegepgun]

LiarasShield wrote...

gimmethegepgun wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Again rare gold arc shotgun

A shot gun at close quarters should of course be doing awesome damage espically if the Arc shotgun

If the arc gun is like a lightning gun that shoots lightning or electricty at the targets upclsoe once again see no need to nerf this shotgun

"I can fire tactical nukes at the enemy with this here machinegun! No, it doesn't need nerfing, it's a tactical nuke machinegun, that's what tactical nuke machineguns do!"

Yup are you trying to prove a point cause if so it really isn't breaking any ground lol

It's definitely proving you're flame baiting.

[Xaijin]

No, it isn't amazing, it's slow and tedious entirely contextually situational, ie a gimmick build. And any mods applied to it can be applied to a striker to make enemies actually die in a timely fashion, complete with knockback stun, just like the falcon.

The falcon is a gimmick weapon at best.

[Stance Punk]

I'd make it heavier than a Claymore

[LiarasShield]

gimmethegepgun wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

gimmethegepgun wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Again rare gold arc shotgun

A shot gun at close quarters should of course be doing awesome damage espically if the Arc shotgun

If the arc gun is like a lightning gun that shoots lightning or electricty at the targets upclsoe once again see no need to nerf this shotgun

"I can fire tactical nukes at the enemy with this here machinegun! No, it doesn't need nerfing, it's a tactical nuke machinegun, that's what tactical nuke machineguns do!"

Yup are you trying to prove a point cause if so it really isn't breaking any ground lol

It's definitely proving you're flame baiting.

And you're being blatantly antagonistic about a close quarters lightning gun that is a rare weapon and most likely cry about said weapon because either a you suck with it or be you can never get top of the leaderboards once again I could shut down the whole theory about this gun being overpowered by whooping or owning their asses in a match with my krogan van

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

OblivionDawn wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Ever stop and think i might like the weapon because of how it feels and synergizes with my class choice rather than it being OP? and maybe a nerf to the gun dosen't mean it will become completley useless? Rather it will just no longer be the best option for every class and won't make all other CQC guns terrible in comparison? 

and if the skill of others is effecting the balance choices the devs make for the game i think i have every right to comment on it. 

How many good lightweight shotguns are there? 


The only ones i can get 200% recharge with are evisc,katana, and scimitar with my current  manifest. There's a high level wraith, but i'm never getting that. 

So you're saying you want a nerf, but you don't want it nerfed in a way that will hurt your build (weight increase).

Lol.

By the way, you don't need max cooldowns to be effective with a class. A Kroguard with a Claymore is quite effective.

No i'm saying i don't want it nerfed in a way that will destroy my build. any nerf would hurt it. 

And never said Claymore Krogaurd wasn't effective. I don't think he's on par with charge spam Kroguard and might as well roll Krogan soldier if your gonna run claymore since he also has incendary grenades. 

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Stance Punk wrote...

I'd make it heavier than a Claymore

>=(

[Cyonan]

Xaijin wrote...

No, it isn't amazing, it's slow and tedious entirely contextually situational, ie a gimmick build. And any mods applied to it can be applied to a striker to make enemies actually die in a timely fashion, complete with knockback stun, just like the falcon.

The falcon is a gimmick weapon at best.

The Falcon has a bigger AoE splash as well as a higher chance of stagger.

It's an AoE weapon. It devastates crowds in a way that the Striker can only dream about doing.

[LiarasShield]

Again nerfing a rare gold shotgun nay and it is a close quarters lightning gun anyway if you can't handle fighting a enemy close quarters with said gun or think it is op then don't use it really

[Delta Vicious]

Add more weight to it, then... I wouldn't mind it being as heavy as a Claymore, just do nothing to the DPS and range, and it would be pretty cool, it would actually work like an even closer range Claymore that eats shields like it was no thang


Of course I say that because I love it in my male Quarian Infiltrator , and weight wouldn't really affect that much

Modifié par Delta Vicious, 02 juin 2012 - 08:23 .

[nicethugbert]

It's essentially a jumbo stun gun set to 11. Why do they call it a carbine? But, more importantly, why do shotgun mods work on it? The only mod that should work on it is ammo capacity. That's all that needs be changed on it. Maybe cut the range in half to keep it close range, and dangerous to use.

Modifié par nicethugbert, 02 juin 2012 - 08:23 .

[Xaijin]

Cyonan wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

No, it isn't amazing, it's slow and tedious entirely contextually situational, ie a gimmick build. And any mods applied to it can be applied to a striker to make enemies actually die in a timely fashion, complete with knockback stun, just like the falcon.

The falcon is a gimmick weapon at best.

The Falcon has a bigger AoE splash as well as a higher chance of stagger.

It's an AoE weapon. It devastates crowds in a way that the Striker can only dream about doing.

It doesn't devastate anything, which is why it's a gimmick weapon. If you want to SL a pocket of enemies for then of seconds while the rest of your team actually carries you, great, good for you. I'd rather make an actual contribution, which with a gengineer and a fully amped striker comes out to about 120-160K worth of damage and enemies that never got the chance to hurt my buddies in game.

The reegar doesn't need to suffer the same fate as the falcon, nor should it, as it is a completely different gameplay paradigm utility.

Next.

Modifié par Xaijin, 02 juin 2012 - 08:24 .

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

LiarasShield wrote...

Again nerfing a rare gold shotgun nay and it is a close quarters lightning gun anyway if you can't handle fighting a enemy close quarters with said gun or think it is op then don't use it really

Again your arguement has become nonsensical. 

Me:I want a gun to be less powerful

You:THEN DON'T USE IT

Me:How does that do anything

You:DON'T ****ING USE IT

Me:But it's my favorite gun

You: YOU DON'T GET TO USE IT

me: >=( 

[Cyonan]

Xaijin wrote...

It doesn't devastste anything, which is why it's a gimmick weapon. If you want to SL a pocket of enemies for then of seconds while the rest of your team actually carries you, great, good for you. I'd rather make an actual contribution, which with a gengineer and a fully amped striker comes out to about 120-160K worth of damage and enemies that never got the chance to hurt my buddies in game.

Next.

Then you're doing it wrong.

My Falcon doesn't just stunlock groups it enemies, it kills them while your Striker is still picking them off one by one.

[NobleVigilante]

Cut the range in half, problem solved.