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[berelinde]

If you've seen Dragon Age: Dawn of the Seeker, you will remember Galyan, the adorable Circle mage who helps Cassandra. He's sweet. He's funny. He's endearinly corny. DA:DotS is set prior to Dragon Age: Asunder, but he is a voice of reason. Did I mention that he's cute? Sure, he seems to have a thing for Cassandra, but she seems to have firmly friendzoned him and he seems to have accepted it.

So how 'bout it? We've got Cassandra and Cullen lined up to take the pro-Chantry rogue and warrior slots. How about Galyan for the Loyalist mage slot?

 

Modifié par berelinde, 03 juin 2012 - 09:39 .

[Reznore57]

If he's a normal mage, abomination-blood magic free , I'm all for it.
He looks a little bit too smooth and young for my tastes, maybe it's just the picture...
But again a friendly (not insane ) mage is always welcome to be in my party.
I hope he's fun , is he a powerful mage?Anything useful?

[LolaLei]

I wonder what he'll look like in-game?

[berelinde]

Reznore57 wrote...

He looks a little bit too smooth and young for my tastes, maybe it's just the picture...

I hope he's fun , is he a powerful mage?Anything useful?

This was made for an anime film, where even the grizzled veterans look like they're 18. If we meet him in game, he'll probably look older/scruffier. Cassandra did.

He was fun in the movie. Powerful, not so much, but he was blood magic free. No way to tell if he's possessed or not, but probability says no, despite the fact that he's a spirit healer and both spirit healers we've met have been possessed.

Keep in mind that he lives in Orlais and if you've read Asunder, you already know that things got ugly there for a while. Even if he is in his early 20s, he's probably mature enough for most folks by virtue of what he has survived.

[Tommyspa]

Well the special features, I think it was Mark Darrah said Galyan ends up someone great as he gets older. Though I'm not sure I want him as a companion if for the sake of that would mean we'll get someone else cut from the old character companion list, and I have my heart on that being taken up by Cassandra, Leliana and Cullen.

[Tommyspa]

And Galyan is basically Anders from Awakening, less angry though.

[LolaLei]

Tommyspa wrote...

Well the special features, I think it was Mark Darrah said Galyan ends up someone great as he gets older. Though I'm not sure I want him as a companion if for the sake of that would mean we'll get someone else cut from the old character companion list, and I have my heart on that being taken up by Cassandra, Leliana and Cullen.

Same, the companion I want the most in DA3 is Cullen, other than that I don't mind.

[brushyourteeth]

I really didn't think Galyan was like Anders at all. He's much more levelheaded and pro-Circle. He wouldn't dream of running away from it or rebelling. He's funny, but definitely doesn't crack jokes all over the place like Anders does. He's much more serious. And not a ladies man.

So he's really only similar to Anders in that he's a mage and he heals.

[Tommyspa]

Well all I meant was, Anders isn't anti-circle he was anti-templar during awakening, even going so far as to make the point of not wanting the circle to separate from the chantry when Wynne brought it up and the topic of templar abuse isn't touched in the movie. Galyan made the same point of just wanting peace and being treated with basic respect for being a mage as well. And if you ignore banter Anders doesn't make anymore jokes than Galyan or anything like that during actual cutscene dialog while questing. Both pretty boys too and hits on the female protagonist. Aside from that I purposely put out the point of less angry.

[berelinde]

If we're going to rule out companions based on their status, Leliana is straight out. The Divine's Left Hand isn't going to go dungeon crawling with some peon. Thank the Maker. If I never see her again, it will be far too soon.

I'm sensing some resentment about attractive male NPCs. Here's a hint: no matter who they eventually include as the male LIs, they'll probably be attractive. There's no point in feeling threatened by this. It's just a game. If it makes you feel any better, the art department will go to great lengths to make the female LIs attractive, too.

[Face of Evil]

Alexa_ wrote...

Since I met Anders in Awakening, he's the only mage and healer I want to have in my party. I don't want any substitute for him.

But he's not coming back. Even if he's still alive at the end of DA3, he's the most wanted man in Thedas.

[berelinde]

Alexa_ wrote...

Since I met Anders in Awakening, he's the only mage and healer I want to have in my party. I don't want any substitute for him.

Well, yeah, I'm on Team Anders, too, but the guy has been in one game and one expansion, and his fate at the end of DA2 was uncertain. Well, that, and if he was in the party, I'd want to romance him again, and he belongs to Hawke. New game, new LIs.

The nice thing about Galyan's DA:DotS epilogue is that it speaks of distant events. Including him in the cast of DA3 would not necessarily prevent him from going on to bigger things afterward.

We fans have been clamoring for a nice, stable LI who isn't angsty, emo, or plagued by a troubling past. Galyan could be that guy.

[Tommyspa]

Alexa_ wrote...

Face of Evil wrote...

Alexa_ wrote...

Since I met Anders in Awakening, he's the only mage and healer I want to have in my party. I don't want any substitute for him.

But he's not coming back. Even if he's still alive at the end of DA3, he's the most wanted man in Thedas.

Then they should give us a female mage, because any smart-looking male young mage will just be regarded as substitute for Anders.

Adrian...

[berelinde]

Nah, she's First Enchanter of Orlais. She's got enough on her plate as it is. Besides, she doesn't even have basic healing spells... which makes me think that she might be a blood mage. Even Morrigan could do basic healing.

Modifié par berelinde, 03 juin 2012 - 07:19 .

[thats1evildude]

berelinde wrote...

Nah, she's First Enchanter of Orlais. She's got enough on her plate as it is. Besides, she doesn't even have basic healing spells... which makes me think that she might be a blood mage. Even Morrigan could do basic healing.

Healing is stated to be somewhat difficult to master for mages.  Adrian was just very focused on offence, which kind of fit with her personality. (She was a little spitfire. A murderous, fanatical little spitfire …)

Modifié par thats1evildude, 03 juin 2012 - 07:28 .

[Tommyspa]

I was going with the fiery rebel murdering mage angle of Anders, but yeah. I severely doubt she is a blood mage though. There is something that throws me off, well mostly because we haven't seen it yet. But as the mages and templars are actively divided from control I do not see the mages staying in places like white spire or kinloch hold or the gallows so it might open up a few possibilities and the role of 1st enchanter may just end up being a badge of leadership.

[berelinde]

Because the world at the start of DA3 is polarized, the party composition will be, too. I'm guessing that we'll have 3 pro-Chantry companions and 3 anti-Chantry companions. I would put Galyan in the pro-Chantry camp and Adrian in the anti-Chantry camp. Not only was she the Orlesian First Enchanter, she was also an outspoken member of the Libertarian fraternity. She would not be able to fill the role of pro-Chantry mage.

Not a big deal. The party will need a DPS mage, so Adrian might serve there, if she could be torn away from being the figurehead of whatever is left of the Orlesian delegation at the stronghold at Something-or-Other Reach, but Galyan has no obligations to prevent him from accompanying the party.

We're also talking about a lot of humans. I'm guessing that the mages will be one elf and one human, one male and one female. Adrian had that spitfire personality thing going, but that's really trite. Her personality is defined by her being an angry redhead. OK, she's definitely got the whole tropes thing working for her, but it's been done way too many times. Even when I was reading Asunder, I kept thinking "Oh, look. A short, beligerent redhead. Of course. Next we'll learn that all innkeepers are fat and jolly." I'd rather the anti-Chantry role be filled by someone more interesting, like a kossith female mage.

Time will tell, but I have a feeling that we haven't seen the last of Galyan. I hope it's as a companion in DA3, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Modifié par berelinde, 03 juin 2012 - 04:35 .

[R2s Muse]

Galyan was a nice character and would be a good addition to DA3, IMO. I think many have been clamoring for a more balanced mage character, and it seems he may fit the bill. I sorta agree with the Anders comparisons -- not in detail of course, Anders has many different, deepseated issues -- but I did get a bit of a cookiecutter feel from him. His cute, smart alecky ways seem cut from the same cloth as Alistair, Anders, Rhys. But, it's a recipe that works despite its familiarity. So sure... so long as it doesn't preclude the inclusion of, say, Cullen or Cassandra, in the game.

[thats1evildude]

R2s Muse wrote...

Galyan was a nice character and would be a good addition to DA3, IMO. I think many have been clamoring for a more balanced mage character, and it seems he may fit the bill. I sorta agree with the Anders comparisons -- not in detail of course, Anders has many different, deepseated issues -- but I did get a bit of a cookiecutter feel from him. His cute, smart alecky ways seem cut from the same cloth as Alistair, Anders, Rhys. But, it's a recipe that works despite its familiarity. So sure... so long as it doesn't preclude the inclusion of, say, Cullen or Cassandra, in the game.

To be fair, most Dragon Age companions are distinguished by their emotional problems, and the movie didn't have time to delve into Galyan's inner turmoil.

[R2s Muse]

thats1evildude wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Galyan was a nice character and would be a good addition to DA3, IMO. I think many have been clamoring for a more balanced mage character, and it seems he may fit the bill. I sorta agree with the Anders comparisons -- not in detail of course, Anders has many different, deepseated issues -- but I did get a bit of a cookiecutter feel from him. His cute, smart alecky ways seem cut from the same cloth as Alistair, Anders, Rhys. But, it's a recipe that works despite its familiarity. So sure... so long as it doesn't preclude the inclusion of, say, Cullen or Cassandra, in the game.

To be fair, most Dragon Age companions are distinguished by their emotional problems, and the movie didn't have time to delve into Galyan's inner turmoil.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I didn't being personally balanced so much as the whole Chantry supporter
who isn't a blood mage type of balance in the DA-verse. Except for Wynne we haven't seen too many pro-Circle "normal" mages. Indeed, I'm sure if he were a LI, we'd eventually see his issues come out.

[cowoline]

Don't know if this is the right place to ask this, but... was I the only one who was terribly dissapointed by this movie? I really felt like it was a onesided chantry propaganda movie. I didn't mind Cassandra in DAII, but hell! Ten minutes into the movie and I wanted to strangle her!

As for Galyan as a companion, sure. He is cute and surely handy to have around, but it would feel very much like having a pro-chantry Anders around.

And another thing.. normal romance without any personal issues? I would say that your romance option not having any problems or inner demons, would make them unrealistic and hollow characters. I have NEVER dated anyone without any personal problems in some way, but maybe I just pick the wrong men?

[berelinde]

I watched it immediately after finishing Asunder, so a "Chantry propeganda" piece was probably not as unwelcome as it could have been, but I get what you're saying. I don't have a lot of desire to re-watch the movie, which is odd for me.

[LolaLei]

berelinde wrote...

I watched it immediately after finishing Asunder, so a "Chantry propeganda" piece was probably not as unwelcome as it could have been, but I get what you're saying. I don't have a lot of desire to re-watch the movie, which is odd for me.

I've ordered the movie so I'll be able to tell you my thoughts on Gaylan in a few days.

Going off topic for a moment, can anyone give me a bit of background on the Asunder novel, like what year it's supposed to be set (how long after the events of DA2) also, does Ser Evangeline live? Or is it the red head mage that nearly dies? Bah I dunno lol.