263 réponses à ce sujet

[Catamantaloedis]

Heeden wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Your dim mind causes you to misunderstand. There will be peace because any race which refuses to acknowledge the superiority of humanity will be destroyed by the Reapers. They will fear even the slightest hint of disobedience once they see the might of the Reaper used against the Krogan and Vorcha, and will fear the same for themselves.

No one will be able to act without the nod of humanity, all will be obedient, and there will be peace.

Ah, so our long history of repressing and brutalising each other was, in fact, training for our ultimate destiny as tyrants of the galaxy and not, as some would suppose, a tale of tragedy and woe from which we should take stark warnings of what not to do.

Past humans were imperfect, therefore their Empires failed. However, the resources of the Reapers are infinite and near omnipotent. They can bring the only true lasting peace ever known to humanity of the galaxy. Humans bear the special privilege, of directing this power. Nevertheless, all will benefit from it.

[mauro2222]

You would make the Rockefeller proud, and that is not good in any level.

[Giggles_Manically]

Cool story brah.

Shame that most people have more intelligence then doing the Reapers bidding for them it seems.
Ah well you can be the one voice shouting into the darkness ranting about your brilliance.

Brings a tear to ones eye.

[Catamantaloedis]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Cool story brah.

Shame that most people have more intelligence then doing the Reapers bidding for them it seems.
Ah well you can be the one voice shouting into the darkness ranting about your brilliance.

Brings a tear to ones eye.

How would it be the Reaper's bidding being done, if the Reapers are controlled by us?

Come back when you learn to think rational thoughts.

[wantedman dan]

I give 3/10 because of predictability.

[Heeden]

[quote]sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

[quote]Heeden wrote...

I appreciate your reasoning but disagree with your reasons. Humanity's mailed fist need not crush those unfortunate enough to oppose us when a swift slap can be most persuasive, and with the formidable yet awkwardly pronounced Reaper Peace Keepers ensuring and enforcing a just galaxy for all there will be no need for petty squabbles. Paragon Shepard's final gift is a new galactic order, all watched over by machines of loving grace.[/quote]

[quote]Oh, now we're talking NGO (in place of the NWO). Ah the Bilderburgs have struck again on a galactic scale. You are going to use them for human dominance and to oppress the masses. How fascist of you. That is if you can control them. You really think you can control them, do you? [/quote]

I think you misunderestimated what an all round great guy I am.

[quote]You realize by depending upon them you keep humanity's own ingenuity in check, as well as that of the other galactic states, because I'm sure you won't allow them to develop tech to any level that could pose a challenge. But you realize we will anyway.[/quote]

On the contrary, I'll be ramming so much new tech down your throats (metaphorically) you'll be crapping out omni-tools for a week (also metaphorically speaking - all tech advancements will be offered graciously with absolutely zero strings, unless strings are integral to the workings of said technology, in which case no more strings than are essential to the workings with clear information detailing what the strings are and how they function).

[quote]Other races could develop tech in secret facilities off the grid and build stuff underground or hidden in asteroid belts or in secret facilities between stars. [/quote]

That's the spirit! Can I help?

[quote]Because the day will come when you lose your grip on them, the entire galaxy will collapse even faster than you could imagine. [/quote]

Aw no, I have faith in you. I'm a helping hand, not a dependency-causing crutch.

[quote]The galaxy is a huge place to patrol. You won't keep us down.

We Will Rise 

[/quote]

Perhaps you misunderstood my intentions...

[Catamantaloedis]

wantedman dan wrote...

I give 3/10 because of predictability.

I give you 0/10 because you contributed nothing to this thread except the continued degeneration of the Internet with pointless stupidity.

[xsdob]

This pretty much sums up all feelings on the endings and the creators of the series.

[Mahrac]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

I give 3/10 because of predictability.

I give you 0/10 because you contributed nothing to this thread except the continued degeneration of the Internet with pointless stupidity.

-looks at topic post- that's the point of this thread

Modifié par Mahrac, 03 juin 2012 - 12:59 .

[wantedman dan]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

I give 3/10 because of predictability.

I give you 0/10 because you contributed nothing to this thread except the continued degeneration of the Internet with pointless stupidity.

The necessity of contribution is nonexistant. This thread is the same as those preceding it.

[Village_Idiot]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

How would it be the Reaper's bidding being done, if the Reapers are controlled by us?

There's yet to be any evidence displayed that Shepard's control of the Reapers is both absolute and infinite. By your definition, the Reapers are omnipotent. Is anything short of complete control acceptable?

[o Ventus]

wantedman dan wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

I give 3/10 because of predictability.

I give you 0/10 because you contributed nothing to this thread except the continued degeneration of the Internet with pointless stupidity.

The necessity of contribution is nonexistant. This thread is the same as those preceding it.

And most likely everything succeeding it.

[jijeebo]

I feel sorry for the people in your canon if you chose Control... All the reapers are going to do under your rule is make poor attempts at troll threads on internet forums.

"MIRANDA IS OVERRATED, THIS HURTS YOU"
created 12 minutes ago by HARBY13

[Catamantaloedis]

Shadrach 88 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

How would it be the Reaper's bidding being done, if the Reapers are controlled by us?

There's yet to be any evidence displayed that Shepard's control of the Reapers is both absolute and infinite. By your definition, the Reapers are omnipotent. Is anything short of complete control acceptable?

The Catalyst says you get control. Their is no partial control. The Reapers are either yours, or they are not. 

If you choose correctly, they are yours.

[Village_Idiot]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

The Catalyst says you get control. Their is no partial control.

To quote the Catalyst: "Do you think you can control us?"

I'd say that is somewhat ambiguous.

The Catalyst's misleading comments over Shepard's implants alluding to the "Destroy" ending also imply it is far from trustworthy. To take anything it says at face value is folly.

[EsterCloat]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Shadrach 88 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

How would it be the Reaper's bidding being done, if the Reapers are controlled by us?

There's yet to be any evidence displayed that Shepard's control of the Reapers is both absolute and infinite. By your definition, the Reapers are omnipotent. Is anything short of complete control acceptable?

The Catalyst says you get control. Their is no partial control. The Reapers are either yours, or they are not. 

If you choose correctly, they are yours.

Cow waste. We destroy them or they destroy us.

[Big I]

We can't really debate the merits of each ending because we don't know how they turn out. For instance, it's possible that in Destroy anyone with cybernetics (e.g. the salarian transhumans, that soldier in Huerta Memorial who lost his leg) will die like Shepard is supposed to. It's equally possible that they don't. You can't debate something rationally unless you know the consequences.


There's a spectrum of Control outcomes. "Min Control" would be Shepard sends the Reapers away for a limited time, but that's all. "Max Control" would be Shepard retains full control over the Reapers forever. I'd argue that no matter where on the spectrum it actually ends up, Control is the best option.


"Min Control" would at least preserve the Citadel (and it's ability to produce dextro food) and everyone still on board, as well as damaging the relays the least. "Max Control" preserves the Reapers for a positive role in th galaxy, e.g. repairing the relays. Control doesn't make you kill the geth or blue box AIs, or change the fundamentals of every lifeform in the galaxy without their say so.

[Catamantaloedis]

Shadrach 88 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

The Catalyst says you get control. Their is no partial control.

To quote the Catalyst: "Do you think you can control us?"

I'd say that is somewhat ambiguous.

The Catalyst's misleading comments over Shepard's implants alluding to the "Destroy" ending also imply it is far from trustworthy. To take anything it says at face value is folly.

 
You can either believe what the Catalyst says or you can make up whatever you want that has no support in the game.

[Zardoc]

Oh boy, not you again...

You can either believe what the Catalyst says or you can make up whatever you want that has no support in the game.

Yes, let us all believe the mass murderer and main antagonist of the series. Seems like a good idea. Shep being able to control the Reapers has no support in the game btw. Just as most everything else from the ending has no support in the game either.

Modifié par Zardoc, 03 juin 2012 - 01:15 .

[Catamantaloedis]

Zardoc wrote...

Oh boy, not you again...

You can either believe what the Catalyst says or you can make up whatever you want that has no support in the game.

Yes, let us all believe the mass murderer and main antagonist of the series. Seems like a good idea. Shep being able to control the Reapers has no support in the game btw. Just as most everything else from the ending has no support in the game either.

The Catalyst says you can synthesize organics and synthetics. When you choose this, you see them synthesized. It says you can destroy the Reapers. When you choose this, you see the Reapers are destroyed. It says you can control the Reapers, when you choose this, you control the Reapers.

You can either believe what is said and shown in the game, or you can make up whatever the hell you want.

[Heeden]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

The Catalyst says you can synthesize organics and synthetics. When you choose this, you see them synthesized. It says you can destroy the Reapers. When you choose this, you see the Reapers are destroyed. It says you can control the Reapers, when you choose this, you control the Reapers.

You can either believe what is said and shown in the game, or you can make up whatever the hell you want.

My Shepard is actually a butterfly dreaming it is a man. After the ending it wakes up, drinks some nectar and goes for some butterfly sex,

[Village_Idiot]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

You can either believe what the Catalyst says or you can make up whatever you want that has no support in the game.

These two options are not mutually exclusive. The Catalyst is either fallible or dishonest, its comments alluding to Shepard being vulnerable in the "Destroy" ending ("Even you are partially synthetic") with Shepard subsequently surviving the event prove this.

As such, this makes anything he says hard to take as entirely credible. Given your pro-humanity stance, would you gamble its continued existence on the chance the Reapers cannot be controlled absolutely? Is putting an entirely fallible "god" at the reigns of a nigh-omnipotent force really a foolproof option?

[TheClonesLegacy]

Heeden wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

The Catalyst says you can synthesize organics and synthetics. When you choose this, you see them synthesized. It says you can destroy the Reapers. When you choose this, you see the Reapers are destroyed. It says you can control the Reapers, when you choose this, you control the Reapers.

You can either believe what is said and shown in the game, or you can make up whatever the hell you want.

My Shepard is actually a butterfly dreaming it is a man. After the ending it wakes up, drinks some nectar and goes for some butterfly sex,

My Shepard is 3 Ducks in a man costume...
Quack

Modifié par TheClonesLegacy, 03 juin 2012 - 01:27 .

[Taboo]

Shadrach 88 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

You can either believe what the Catalyst says or you can make up whatever you want that has no support in the game.

These two options are not mutually exclusive. The Catalyst is either fallible or dishonest, its comments alluding to Shepard being vulnerable in the "Destroy" ending ("Even you are partially synthetic") with Shepard subsequently surviving the event prove this.

As such, this makes anything he says hard to take as entirely credible. Given your pro-humanity stance, would you gamble its continued existence on the chance the Reapers cannot be controlled absolutely? Is putting an entirely fallible "god" at the reigns of a nigh-omnipotent force really a foolproof option?

He is falliable. He is not being dishonest. He's stuck in a loop.

[Catamantaloedis]

Shadrach 88 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

You can either believe what the Catalyst says or you can make up whatever you want that has no support in the game.

These two options are not mutually exclusive. The Catalyst is either fallible or dishonest, its comments alluding to Shepard being vulnerable in the "Destroy" ending ("Even you are partially synthetic") with Shepard subsequently surviving the event prove this.

As such, this makes anything he says hard to take as entirely credible. Given your pro-humanity stance, would you gamble its continued existence on the chance the Reapers cannot be controlled absolutely? Is putting an entirely fallible "god" at the reigns of a nigh-omnipotent force really a foolproof option?

The breath scene is an easter egg.