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[slimgrin]

Lenimph wrote...

They actually have a phone line I can call and complain to and they actually helped me when I need too...so...

Oh...you actually made a complaint? Jesus f*cking christ.....

[Elhanan]

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

This isn't about 'real fan' titles. I honestly couldn't care less about that biased term anyway. There's a lot more wrong with ME 3 than the endings though, like Tali's face and the in-game model of Jessica Chobot...Or the writer's favouritism for Liara's romance. There's also the auto-dialogue and the face import bug and let's not forget the whole day 1 DLC debacle. There's more than meets the eye when it comes to ME 3.

The problem is that some may like Tali's face and the model, the writer's choices, and do not have issues with auto-dialogue and Day 1 DLC? That leaves a real bug, which if I recall is being addressed.

Try using both eyes; the one that is open....

[Rockworm503]

Elhanan wrote...

And the ME3 debacle is more on the so-called fans; not Bioware or EA. If kids do not like the dessert offered, they should skip it; not expect fresh desserts from their nanny. The Bandwagon comes off as entitled whining infants, and does not deserve consideration at all. But Bioware will simply because they do care about all their clients; not just the fans.

Note: A key to escaping depression is to avoid self-focus, and expand the vision to others beyond personal needs.

This is my favorite part.  Calls anyone who has a problem kids.
Nice metaphor there.  "The Bandwagon comes off as entitled whinging infants, does not deserve consideration at all"
Nice.
You can't get this good at lying without practice... Whose your teacher? Bioware?
Honestly its great that you didn't buy it your experience of the first 2 games are not tarnished with it.
But thats where your confusing me.  You haven't even played ME3 yet here you are defending it.
How?
I don't get that at all.
But I'm not surprised you haven't been the first to defend ME3 without even playing it.

I'm not even gonna get into it any more than this because its been done to death but for me the ending did not ruin the entire series for me.
It simply opened my eyes to how terribad the series truly was to begin with.
The Rachni queen?
No difference
wrex?
no difference
The choices not mattering was prevaliant throughhout the entire third game LONG before the ending.
THe ending just drove the point home and made it harder to ignore all the problems.

Now I'm willing to admit when I made a mistake like I did here in this thread.
I thought were another fanboy simply shooting out the mouth because someone has the audacity to badmouth Bioware.  I apologize.
Now please understand your guilty of assuming things to.  I just don't get why your defending something you haven't even tried.  Until you see the ending for yourself how dare you tell me I'm wrong?  I'm entitled?
I'm not going to apologize for calling Bioware out on this.  Because it truly is as bad as everyone says it is. And thats not even the worst part about the whole thing.  The part that really angers me is how Bioware is handling this.  Just push it under the rug and pretend everyone complaning is wrong.  Oh wait we're getting a an extended ending DLC that will explain things... Yeah thats it make the terrible ending even longer *rolls eyes*
This is my biggest problem Bioware and their overseers seem to be out of touch with their costumers.  We tell them we want a satisfying conclusion to the epic trilogy.  They give us multiplayer (not really complaining about that just making a point).
We ask for more dialog choices and for our choices to play a role in what happens.  They make the dialog wheel show up less and make most things happen no matter what you did in the previous games.
I'm sure your sick of hearing this god knows I"m sick of talking about it.  I sure as hell didn't come into the Off topic section to talk about it.  But when it is being talked about I'm not going to keep quite just because people are tired of hearing it.
You can't be more sick of hearing it than I am of being called entitled and "you just don't get it"

[Rockworm503]

Elhanan wrote...

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

This isn't about 'real fan' titles. I honestly couldn't care less about that biased term anyway. There's a lot more wrong with ME 3 than the endings though, like Tali's face and the in-game model of Jessica Chobot...Or the writer's favouritism for Liara's romance. There's also the auto-dialogue and the face import bug and let's not forget the whole day 1 DLC debacle. There's more than meets the eye when it comes to ME 3.

The problem is that some may like Tali's face and the model, the writer's choices, and do not have issues with auto-dialogue and Day 1 DLC? That leaves a real bug, which if I recall is being addressed.

Try using both eyes; the one that is open....

How can anyone like a photoshopped picture ripped from google with little lines to make her look alien?
Anyone who has no issues with this want game designers to be lazy.

[Elhanan]

Sajji wrote...

Lol at your defense of the endings.

I don't care, though. I just like pointing out to people defending them.

I have depression. You have zero idea what it is. It's a chemical imbalance of serotonin and norepinephrine. Caused from a distortion of the HTT-5 gene. Lol @ "chemical dependency". You take for "chemical depravity".

"In my opinion", of course *eyeroll*

Are you mad and frustrated BioWare is sinking along with the TORtanic. ****s seem desperate these days as their ranks continuously thin

No; I said addiction; often pychologolical dependency on a crutch system. And if it were so easy to ID and repair, it would not be so pervasive. Meds by itself is not the best method of treatment. IMO.

And I have it, too. But unlike some others, this does not make me an expert at pigeon-holing everyone into a single disagnosis.

Not mad, frustrated, or upset; simply angry at the Haters that seem deserving of the same bile they spew forth on the forums. TOR ain't sinking, as much as some wish it were so; 1.3 million +/-  passengers currently.

[Elhanan]

Rockworm503 wrote...

How can anyone like a photoshopped picture ripped from google with little lines to make her look alien?
Anyone who has no issues with this want game designers to be lazy.

If this actress is how they wished to depict Tali, seems rather accut=rate and follows the KISS design rather well.

[android654]

Some of you people on here a f*cking jokes.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

You know, I'll throw this in here before Rockworm is decried as a blind hater.

I distinctly remember Rockworm defending BioWare after DA 2 came out, blasting people for hating or taking negative sentiment to extreme levels. The kind of stuff that he's getting accused of now. Thing is, he's not the only person who I've seen change in attitude like this. There are several examples I've noted mentally of people who were strictly pro-BioWare before changing their stance in the wake of Mass Effect 3's release.

Mass Effect 3 changes people, mang.

As for EA, I laid out my thoughts already, but perhaps not my opinions.

I find that EA's practices encourage a destructive environment for the creation of games I'd want to play or in building up a loyal consumer base. That said, I buy less AAA games compared to other gamers (bought full price 5 games last year - S2TW, Anno 2070, Skyrim, W2 and Deus Ex: HR) and with GOG or Steam sales, I simply pick up old and discounted classics to replay or to try out.

None of the games I have particular interest in this year are EA published (Risen 2, Dishonored, Bioshock: Infinite, Hitman: Absolution). So the irony is, while I feel that their practices are not conductive in building up consumer loyalty or games of a quality I'd like to play, it's that exact problem which makes me dispassionate about the whole thing - if EA doesn't produce games I'd want to play, then bad luck for them, my money goes elsewhere. Simple as that, money goes to games I want to buy. Publisher names don't really factor into it.

The "EA is killing gaming" sentiment does take it a bit far, IMO.

Now, as for people defending EA because it's better than Ubisoft or Activision, I feel as if that's missing the point.

It's like defending the strength of the Spanish economy because it's not as bad as the Greek economy. I'd rather have a good and healthy economy, myself.

Modifié par CrustyBot, 04 juin 2012 - 01:42 .

[Rockworm503]

Elhanan wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

How can anyone like a photoshopped picture ripped from google with little lines to make her look alien?
Anyone who has no issues with this want game designers to be lazy.

If this actress is how they wished to depict Tali, seems rather accut=rate and follows the KISS design rather well.

Ok now your not even making sense.
What actress?
They found a picture on the internet and put on there.
http://igxpro.net/20...or-tali/1315018
They didn't even care enough to make it look good its just bam Tali looks human with some lines on her face and oooh Lens flare!!!
At best this is just laziness at worst its plagarism.  Did they even ask who ever owned the picture if they use it?  Or did they really think no one would notice?

[Megaton_Hope]

Well, EA has developed some games I really liked a lot. Road Rash II, for example.

EA's bread and butter (sports games) doesn't appeal to me. And I don't like what they've been doing with Mass Effect and Dragon Age, overall. "Simplified" gameplay seems to be more of a headache than "complicated" gameplay. And I sometimes think they have more money than sense.

But that's all right, as long as they keep making games I can stomach.

[chunkyman]

EA is the Jar-Jar Binks of video game companies.

Yeah, I went there.

Modifié par chunkyman, 04 juin 2012 - 01:36 .

[Rockworm503]

Yes I defended DA2. I regretted that because now i hate it as much as most everyone else.
Tried twice to finish my 2nd playthrough just cant do it. Almost threw it away when I was cleaning my room.

[Elhanan]

Rockworm503 wrote...

This is my favorite part.  Calls anyone who has a problem kids.
Nice metaphor there.  "The Bandwagon comes off as entitled whinging infants, does not deserve consideration at all"
Nice.
You can't get this good at lying without practice... Whose your teacher? Bioware?
Honestly its great that you didn't buy it your experience of the first 2 games are not tarnished with it.
But thats where your confusing me.  You haven't even played ME3 yet here you are defending it.
How?
I don't get that at all.
But I'm not surprised you haven't been the first to defend ME3 without even playing it.

I'm not even gonna get into it any more than this because its been done to death but for me the ending did not ruin the entire series for me.
It simply opened my eyes to how terribad the series truly was to begin with.
The Rachni queen?
No difference
wrex?
no difference
The choices not mattering was prevaliant throughhout the entire third game LONG before the ending.
THe ending just drove the point home and made it harder to ignore all the problems.

Now I'm willing to admit when I made a mistake like I did here in this thread.
I thought were another fanboy simply shooting out the mouth because someone has the audacity to badmouth Bioware.  I apologize.
Now please understand your guilty of assuming things to.  I just don't get why your defending something you haven't even tried.  Until you see the ending for yourself how dare you tell me I'm wrong?  I'm entitled?
I'm not going to apologize for calling Bioware out on this.  Because it truly is as bad as everyone says it is. And thats not even the worst part about the whole thing.  The part that really angers me is how Bioware is handling this.  Just push it under the rug and pretend everyone complaning is wrong.  Oh wait we're getting a an extended ending DLC that will explain things... Yeah thats it make the terrible ending even longer *rolls eyes*
This is my biggest problem Bioware and their overseers seem to be out of touch with their costumers.  We tell them we want a satisfying conclusion to the epic trilogy.  They give us multiplayer (not really complaining about that just making a point).
We ask for more dialog choices and for our choices to play a role in what happens.  They make the dialog wheel show up less and make most things happen no matter what you did in the previous games.
I'm sure your sick of hearing this god knows I"m sick of talking about it.  I sure as hell didn't come into the Off topic section to talk about it.  But when it is being talked about I'm not going to keep quite just because people are tired of hearing it.
You can't be more sick of hearing it than I am of being called entitled and "you just don't get it"

I am defending the ending because I have seen it. 

I defend the game using information gathered by many of those playing it; the same method (ie; informed consumerism) used to make the choice not to purchase. No need to slam the game because the designers chose implementations other than my personal preferences; that would appear to be rather childish.

And I did not " Calls anyone who has a problem kids"; poor translation, and rather biased. The Haters do appear infantile, and not every critic is one. And what lie? That the Bandwagon appears to be chidish? That is my opinion, and seems truthful to me.

Wrex and Rachni Queen choices affect war Assets; affects conclusion, I believe. Difference found.

No debacle here to debate.

Modifié par Elhanan, 04 juin 2012 - 01:38 .

[Rockworm503]

greengoron89 wrote...

Oh look, it's Elhanan rushing to Bioware's rescue again and imposing his overblown sense of morality on their detractors, and patting himself on the back as he does it.

BSN is host to all sorts of interesting people, isn't it?

I don't even know why I'm even entertaining him.
He's already admitted to not playing ME3.
His opinion on that game should be non existant.
You'd never see me saying so much about a game I decided against buying.

[M2S SOLID JOSH]

www.youtube.com/watch this pretty much sums it all up

[RedArmyShogun]

chunkyman wrote...

EA is the Jar-Jar Binks of video game companies.

Yeah, I went there.

It will unknowingly some day cause an Empire to build up, and a Sith Lord to rise as its head?

Or its just Retarded?

Modifié par Confess-A-Bear, 04 juin 2012 - 01:42 .

[Rockworm503]

Elhanan wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

This is my favorite part.  Calls anyone who has a problem kids.
Nice metaphor there.  "The Bandwagon comes off as entitled whinging infants, does not deserve consideration at all"
Nice.
You can't get this good at lying without practice... Whose your teacher? Bioware?
Honestly its great that you didn't buy it your experience of the first 2 games are not tarnished with it.
But thats where your confusing me.  You haven't even played ME3 yet here you are defending it.
How?
I don't get that at all.
But I'm not surprised you haven't been the first to defend ME3 without even playing it.

I'm not even gonna get into it any more than this because its been done to death but for me the ending did not ruin the entire series for me.
It simply opened my eyes to how terribad the series truly was to begin with.
The Rachni queen?
No difference
wrex?
no difference
The choices not mattering was prevaliant throughhout the entire third game LONG before the ending.
THe ending just drove the point home and made it harder to ignore all the problems.

Now I'm willing to admit when I made a mistake like I did here in this thread.
I thought were another fanboy simply shooting out the mouth because someone has the audacity to badmouth Bioware.  I apologize.
Now please understand your guilty of assuming things to.  I just don't get why your defending something you haven't even tried.  Until you see the ending for yourself how dare you tell me I'm wrong?  I'm entitled?
I'm not going to apologize for calling Bioware out on this.  Because it truly is as bad as everyone says it is. And thats not even the worst part about the whole thing.  The part that really angers me is how Bioware is handling this.  Just push it under the rug and pretend everyone complaning is wrong.  Oh wait we're getting a an extended ending DLC that will explain things... Yeah thats it make the terrible ending even longer *rolls eyes*
This is my biggest problem Bioware and their overseers seem to be out of touch with their costumers.  We tell them we want a satisfying conclusion to the epic trilogy.  They give us multiplayer (not really complaining about that just making a point).
We ask for more dialog choices and for our choices to play a role in what happens.  They make the dialog wheel show up less and make most things happen no matter what you did in the previous games.
I'm sure your sick of hearing this god knows I"m sick of talking about it.  I sure as hell didn't come into the Off topic section to talk about it.  But when it is being talked about I'm not going to keep quite just because people are tired of hearing it.
You can't be more sick of hearing it than I am of being called entitled and "you just don't get it"

I am defending the ending because I have seen it. 

I defend the game using information gathered by many of those playing it; the same method (ie; informed consumerism) used to make the choice not to purchase. No need to slam the game because the designers chose implementations other than my personal preferences; that would appear to be rather childish.

And I did not " Calls anyone who has a problem kids"; poor translation, and rather biased. The Haters do appear infantile, and not every critic is one. And what lie? That the Bandwagon appears to be chidish? That is my opinion, and seems truthful to me.

Wrex and Rachni Queen choices affect war Assets; affects conclusion, I believe. Difference found.

No debacle here to debate.

LMAO yes the war assets.  Lets make that the pinnacle of all our choices.  dear lord any chance of me thinking your anything but a troll are gone.
Seriously use the war assets crap as an excuse to avoid following through with your promises.
Hell bring up that crap and I'm just gonna tune out.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

chunkyman wrote...

EA is the Jar-Jar Binks of video game companies.

Yeah, I went there.

Also, cool your jets everyone. No need for snide remarks aimed at other forumites.

Modifié par CrustyBot, 04 juin 2012 - 01:51 .

[Elhanan]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Ok now your not even making sense.
What actress?
They found a picture on the internet and put on there.
http://igxpro.net/20...or-tali/1315018
They didn't even care enough to make it look good its just bam Tali looks human with some lines on her face and oooh Lens flare!!!
At best this is just laziness at worst its plagarism.  Did they even ask who ever owned the picture if they use it?  Or did they really think no one would notice?

My bad; misread this prior note: "... like Tali's face and the in-game model of Jessica Chobot."
 
Knew that Tali was photo-shopped, and saw Ms Chobot is an Actress listed for ME3, and thought it was her. Did not mean to confuse anyone. But I have seen the photo and the photoshop version; both are attractive enough for me.

And I shall leave the legalese to others.....

Modifié par Elhanan, 04 juin 2012 - 01:51 .

[chunkyman]

CrustyBot wrote...

I tried my hardest to find his face photoshopped on a Sith Lord, but I couldn't find anything. 

[Elhanan]

greengoron89 wrote...

Oh look, it's Elhanan rushing to Bioware's rescue again and imposing his overblown sense of morality on their detractors, and patting himself on the back as he does it.

BSN is host to all sorts of interesting people, isn't it?

SPOON?

[Elhanan]

Rockworm503 wrote...

LMAO yes the war assets.  Lets make that the pinnacle of all our choices.  dear lord any chance of me thinking your anything but a troll are gone.
Seriously use the war assets crap as an excuse to avoid following through with your promises.
Hell bring up that crap and I'm just gonna tune out.

It makes a difference evidently, as there were several posts stating that one could not get enough without m/p. But that was another grievance that Haters locked jaws into, and I do not follow the game as closely now, not having it and all....

But a difference is there, even if one chooses to write falsly about it.

[Elhanan]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Yes I defended DA2. I regretted that because now i hate it as much as most everyone else.
Tried twice to finish my 2nd playthrough just cant do it. Almost threw it away when I was cleaning my room.

 
I liked it myself; played 300+ hrs in three playthroughs, and prefer the writing to that of some other titles.