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[Silasqtx]

Fitness doesn't or partially works.

 


My guess is on Fitness rank6. 




Stat pic:

[GGW KillerTiger]

Yup the patch fixed nothing and we get even more broken content. Way to fail Bioware (again!).

[Mozts]

... And from the ashes shall rise. I think BioWare is trying to tell us something.

Great job, thanks for the info. Thanks for the music you used. I can't rage with that godly music playing.

BioWare needs better interns.

[Atheosis]

I'm confused. The Phoenix Vanguard has 200 more hit points than the Novaguard in that picture. What is the problem again?

Edit:  Nevermind, I missed the video link, which does offer some very odd visual evidence of something amiss.

Modifié par Atheosis, 03 juin 2012 - 12:38 .

[underm1nd]

Yeah the fitness is bugged for both phoenix characters... Played a gold match with a drell adept right after a game with the phoenix adept, both with maxed shields in fitness and the drell could take alot more punishment before going down.... And the video just proves this bug conclusively.

[Atheosis]

underm1nd wrote...

Yeah the fitness is bugged for both phoenix characters... Played a gold match with a drell adept right after a game with the phoenix adept, both with maxed shields in fitness and the drell could take alot more punishment before going down.... And the video just proves this bug conclusively.

Reave does actually make Drell Adepts fairly resilient you know.

[underm1nd]

Atheosis wrote...

underm1nd wrote...

Yeah the fitness is bugged for both phoenix characters... Played a gold match with a drell adept right after a game with the phoenix adept, both with maxed shields in fitness and the drell could take alot more punishment before going down.... And the video just proves this bug conclusively.

Reave does actually make Drell Adepts fairly resilient you know.

Do you think that i dont know that? I just sat in the middle of the map and let some mobs to shoot me, with both characters....

Modifié par underm1nd, 03 juin 2012 - 12:48 .

[Silasqtx]

Bump for visibility

[kyles3]

And we thought the Kroguard and Justicar were bugged. This is so much worse, especially for anyone wanting to make extensive use of Smash.

[Zhuinden]

Ouch. That explains why I die so often.

[Brohak]

So basically, we build for max melee and play a very high risk, not so high reward style.^^ Well, except if you Smash and then cancel into heavy melee on a primed target. But still.

[coldflame]

I wonder if bioware is even aware of the bug, since when was the last time they got a QA process right before release!! I swear, if they paid a coulpe of college kids, those kids would probably do a better QA job than the ones bioware currently employs (also at a fraction of the cost as well).

[Dikjuh]

Thanks for this video. Now I'm sure it's not just me and people who tell me otherwise can be redirected here

[underm1nd]

Bump, this should stay on the first page.

[Relix28]

Silasqtx wrote...

Fitness doesn't or partially works.

 


My guess is on Fitness rank6. 

You need to take a couple of things into consideration here. 

For one, Ops survival pack doesn't just refil your shields, it also gives your shields a temporary boost. You used an ops pack before the marauder melee'd your Novaguard, but you didn't use it on your Phoenixguard.

Anoher thing you need to know is that Vanguards get a 50% damage reduction for about 4 seconds after every successful charge. And you couldn't really tell from that vid, if you charged before taking damage (when damage reduction was still active), or not.

With that said, I think you should record another comparison vid, but this time without using charge or survival ops packs, before taking damage.

I'll do some more testing myself, and I'll post the results in here when I'm done.

Modifié par Relix28, 03 juin 2012 - 02:21 .

[underm1nd]

Relix28 wrote...

Silasqtx wrote...

Fitness doesn't or partially works.

 


My guess is on Fitness rank6. 

You need to take a couple of things into consideration here. 

For one, Ops survival pack doesn't just refil your shields, it also gives your shields a temporary boost. You used an ops pack before the marauder melee'd your Novaguard, but you didn't use it on your Phoenixguard.

Anoher thing you need to know is that Vanguards get a 50% damage reduction for about 4 seconds after every successful charge. And you couldn't really tell from that vid, if you charged before taking damage (when damage reduction was still active), or not.

With that said, I think you should record another comparison vid, but this time without using charge or survival ops packs, before taking damage.

I'll do some more testing myself, and I'll post the results in here when I'm done.

Theres really no need for testing, everybody whos played a phoenix on gold knows that theres something wrong with their fitness.

[Zkyire]

Relix28 wrote...

Silasqtx wrote...

Fitness doesn't or partially works.

 


My guess is on Fitness rank6. 

You need to take a couple of things into consideration here. 

For one, Ops survival pack doesn't just refil your shields, it also gives your shields a temporary boost. You used an ops pack before the marauder melee'd your Novaguard, but you didn't use it on your Phoenixguard.

Anoher thing you need to know is that Vanguards get a 50% damage reduction for about 4 seconds after every successful charge. And you couldn't really tell from that vid, if you charged before taking damage (when damage reduction was still active), or not.

With that said, I think you should record another comparison vid, but this time without using charge or survival ops packs, before taking damage.

I'll do some more testing myself, and I'll post the results in here when I'm done.

Since when?

[Atheosis]

tcgtqu wrote...

I wonder if bioware is even aware of the bug, since when was the last time they got a QA process right before release!! I swear, if they paid a coulpe of college kids, those kids would probably do a better QA job than the ones bioware currently employs (also at a fraction of the cost as well).

Are you sure Bioware actually employs any QA people?  I'm beginning to doubt it.

Modifié par Atheosis, 03 juin 2012 - 02:39 .

[Atheosis]

underm1nd wrote...

Bump, this should stay on the first page.

Won't matter.  Bioware won't fix it for months if they ever fix it at all.

[Dethecus09]

Zkyire wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

Silasqtx wrote...

Fitness doesn't or partially works.

 


My guess is on Fitness rank6. 

You need to take a couple of things into consideration here. 

For one, Ops survival pack doesn't just refil your shields, it also gives your shields a temporary boost. You used an ops pack before the marauder melee'd your Novaguard, but you didn't use it on your Phoenixguard.

Anoher thing you need to know is that Vanguards get a 50% damage reduction for about 4 seconds after every successful charge. And you couldn't really tell from that vid, if you charged before taking damage (when damage reduction was still active), or not.

With that said, I think you should record another comparison vid, but this time without using charge or survival ops packs, before taking damage.

I'll do some more testing myself, and I'll post the results in here when I'm done.

Since when?

Yea, I would also like to know... <_<

[Pekkan]

On bronze, when I tested alliance vanguard and phoenix adept on rocket troopers both fitness 6 and equipped with cyclonic I + Stronghold Package V, they both had as much barrier left from that one rocket.

[Relix28]

Dethecus09 wrote...

Zkyire wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

Silasqtx wrote...

Fitness doesn't or partially works.

 


My guess is on Fitness rank6. 

You need to take a couple of things into consideration here. 

For one, Ops survival pack doesn't just refil your shields, it also gives your shields a temporary boost. You used an ops pack before the marauder melee'd your Novaguard, but you didn't use it on your Phoenixguard.

Anoher thing you need to know is that Vanguards get a 50% damage reduction for about 4 seconds after every successful charge. And you couldn't really tell from that vid, if you charged before taking damage (when damage reduction was still active), or not.

With that said, I think you should record another comparison vid, but this time without using charge or survival ops packs, before taking damage.

I'll do some more testing myself, and I'll post the results in here when I'm done.

Since when?

Yea, I would also like to know... <_<

It's a hidden feature of Biotic Charge, since for ever. Not many poeple know about it though. If you dont believe me, test it for yourself.


Also, the results are in. No Biotic Charge or Survival Ops packs used before taking damage.


Marauder melee (silver)

Phoenix Vanguard 700/700 - whole barrier gone

Asari Vanguard 700/700 - whole barrier gone

Phoenix Adept 825/825 - whole barrier gone

Human Vanguard 825/825 - whole barrier gone



Full Canibal Burst (silver)

Phoenix Vanuard 700/700 - whole barrier gone

Asari Vanguard 700/700 - whole barrier gone

Phoenix Adept 825/825 - only a sliver of barrier left

Human Vanguard 825/825 - only a sliver of barrier left (same as Phoenix Adept)


Conclusion? Fintess tree on Phoenix characters works fine. Please disregard OP's vid, since it doesn't take either survival ops pack shield boost or biotic charge's damage reduction into consideration.
And can someone please make a proper comparison vid, so we can put this myth behind us already?

Modifié par Relix28, 03 juin 2012 - 03:17 .

[Immortal Strife]

I really wish we knew for certain what part of the tree is bugged or if it's bugged at all; both my PA and PV an just sitting there with no points until this issue has a conclusive answer.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 03 juin 2012 - 03:53 .

[Xander Harris]

This needs looking into. I've been surprised by how much damage the Phoenix Vanguard has been taking, but more evidence needed i reckon.

[Immortal Strife]

Would someone please run some more tests and post a video with the results. Op tried and I appreciate it but the vid did not seem conclusive enough.