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[Ctserber]

The entire idea behind the whole cycle was to stop organics from creating a purely synthetic race that would exterminate all organic life. Thus, the Reapers harvest advanced civilizations before they can create Skynet and doom all organic life. But for whatever reason the cycle no longer works, need a new solution, etc, etc.

So the Catalyst proposes Synthesis, which will apparently merge all organic and synthetic life. Well, we don't actually know that synthetics are now part organic, but we do know that all organics are now part synthetic. This, apparently, means that there will be everlasting peace and the half organic/half synthetics will not be destroyed by synthetics.

 How does that work exactly? Why would the mere fact that organics are now part synthetic, stop them from still making synthetics? For labor, war, etc? Being partly synthetic changes absolutely nothing whatsoever. It's not a solution. Organics have no problem killing organics, synthetics have no problem killing synthetics, and neither have a problem killing each other. Why would organics being half and half stop them from creating pure synthetics down the line and having the Geth all over again?

[Isichar]

your not speculating correctly, try again

[Firecell11]

Isichar wrote...

your not speculating correctly, try again

^

but seriously...it wouldn't

[jijeebo]

I'd imagine it's now impossible to create a pure synthetic due to space magic.


Also it works because be quiet and stop asking questions.

[KDD-0063]

Plus that doesn't really matter anyways.

[Creepter]

Because art.

[The Night Mammoth]

I don't know, maybe synthetics wont try to kill all organic life, because the Catalyst was bullsh*tting you?

That might work.

Actually, that works better than trying to imagine how this problem might be solved.

[Bill Casey]

Because there are no more organics...
Or synthetics...

Problem solved...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 03 juin 2012 - 10:22 .

[Taboo]

No. If the Geth decide to shoot some random jerk they can.

It's so terrible I'm going to try and get the surgeon general to label it a carcinogen.

[Kunari801]

Listen to Javik, "Subjugating the Reapers will not bring victory. Only their extinction will"

[Ctserber]

Bill Casey wrote...

Because there are no more organics...

But there are half organics. Who can still create synthetics. Who in turn can try to kill the half organics.

Seriously, does Bioware want me to believe that every piece of steel, polymer, and silicone, now has "organic DNA," so that it's impossible to create pure synthetics anymore?

[jijeebo]

Ctserber wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Because there are no more organics...

But there are half organics. Who can still create synthetics. Who in turn can try to kill the half organics.

Seriously, does Bioware want me to believe that every piece of steel, polymer, and silicone, now has "organic DNA," so that it's impossible to create pure synthetics anymore?

Yes, that or the second you finish building it and hit the power switch it gets auto-synthesised.

#Space magic, a mystic adventuure!
Space magic, a quest for all time!#


Seriously though, bad things happen when you try and make sense of Synthesis.

Modifié par jijeebo, 03 juin 2012 - 10:28 .

[MzAdventure]

I really, really, really HATE synthesis. Seriously, are they serious about the whole thing??

[OchreJelly]

Didn't someone higher up at BioWare tweet regarding Synthesis, that there was no longer 'synthetic or organic life, just... life'?

It's obvious they thought about the logical ramifications of their 'best' ending for roughly 30 seconds.

EDIT: And it's worth mentioning that, using the same logic applied to all endings, none of the solutions the Catalyst says the Crucible offers solve the supposed ultimate problem of synthetics wiping out all organic life.

It's an ending that doesn't end anything.

Modifié par OchreJelly, 03 juin 2012 - 10:44 .

[shrimprahmen]

yeah...i dont think it would stop anything...even if organics are now part syntheic.....there are still krogan..huma....asari...yadda yadda yadda....humans kill each other all the time..sythesis didnt help anything other than stoping reapers from killing all organics...all other problems still remain

[jla0644]

jijeebo wrote...

Also it works because be quiet and stop asking questions.

Pretty much. I really don't think they put any more thought into it than that. "Everyone is part organic and part synthetic now so no need to kill other. Success!!!" And somehow they didn't know their fanbase well enough to realize we would give it more thought than that.

[MzAdventure]

The thing is, this question is just the tip of the giant iceberg that is synthesis-stupidness.

[Versidious]

And how about the fact that Synthesis itself actually puts an end to organic life? For that matter, the Reapers kill all synthetic life to make way for organic life. So why wouldn't they just go ahead and kill all synthesised life to make way for organics? Synthesis doesn't really solve anything, except for maybe allowing Joker and EDI to bump uglies without Joker breaking every bone in his body.

[BrookerT]

It effectively makes everything hybrid synthetic-organic, thus removing the ability to make anything purely synthetic. This either gives synthetic beings lifespans, or it gives synthetics empathy and organics to compete with high AI mental function, like EDIs self fixing abilities.

[frylock23]

They should have just created an ending where no species ever had hands (or hand-like structures) again so it was impossible for anyone or anything to ever again manipulate the world around them to their advantage.

It would have been less space magicky.

[frylock23]

BrookerT wrote...

It effectively makes everything hybrid synthetic-organic, thus removing the ability to make anything purely synthetic. This either gives synthetic beings lifespans, or it gives synthetics empathy and organics to compete with high AI mental function, like EDIs self fixing abilities.

That's the easy answer until you consider that those hybrids will still create tools which are effectively synthetic.

[EsterCloat]

You know, I just realized that the Yuuzhan Vong aren't going to take kindly to everyone being synthesized with synthetics.

[element eater]

jijeebo wrote...

 it works because be quiet and stop asking questions.

made me laugh

the more thought that goes into synthesis the more stupid and horrific it seems to be

Modifié par element eater, 03 juin 2012 - 11:06 .

[Nightwriter]

I see your problem. You're trying to put thought into this. There is no INSERT THOUGHT HERE tab in the endings. They now resemble what a juicebox would look like if it had no tinfoil straw insert and thirsty children had attacked it viciously with their straws, from all directions. For two months. Crying, "Surely there must be a straw insert! They wouldn't sell it without a straw insert!"

What you should be doing is just sitting back and making bland, not too scrutinizing remarks about the juicebox, like, "Its corners are square," and, "Perhaps there is juice inside. Or perhaps not."