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[Zulmoka531]

FFHAuthor wrote...

Because it's a wound that gets worse over time. No matter how many times you look at it, or think about it or discuss it, you always manage to find new reasons to have problems with it.

And much like an infected wound, it begins to spread from the source, to the rest of the body. Sometimes folks over look bad things when they get a decent resolution to a problem, but the ending made many of the other parts of the game, for me anyways, worse.

Killing off characters over Twitter, the walking talking IGN advertisement, fetch quests, killing memorable characters and resolving conflicts/story lines in e-mails (Where the hell is Shiala, Gianna parsini, Kal'Reegar, etc... I thought this was a largely despised issue ME2 was criticized over).

Oh what could have been compared to what we have.

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Because I sat there after the ending cutscene and said, "That blows," and turned off the TV.

After
I finished both ME1 and ME2, I jumped out of my chair, pumped my fist,
yelled "F*** YEAH!" and proceeded to start another PT.

Wow, are we like..the same person or something. Becuase I did the same exact thing.

Modifié par Zulmoka531, 04 juin 2012 - 07:44 .

[Icinix]

Zulmoka531 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Because I sat there after the ending cutscene and said, "That blows," and turned off the TV.

After
I finished both ME1 and ME2, I jumped out of my chair, pumped my fist,
yelled "F*** YEAH!" and proceeded to start another PT.

Wow, are we like..the same person or something. Becuase I did the same exact thing.

Haha.

I see a lot of people say this and I'm the same.

In KOTOR, DAO, Jade Empire and ME1 and ME2 - the second the end credits finished - NEW GAME. I needed more of this world, this experience I loved it so much. It was great. ME3 had the opposite affect.

It really, really killed the desire to jump back into the world. Damn shame.

[Reptilian Rob]

Icinix wrote...

Zulmoka531 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Because I sat there after the ending cutscene and said, "That blows," and turned off the TV.

After
I finished both ME1 and ME2, I jumped out of my chair, pumped my fist,
yelled "F*** YEAH!" and proceeded to start another PT.

Wow, are we like..the same person or something. Becuase I did the same exact thing.

Haha.

I see a lot of people say this and I'm the same.

In KOTOR, DAO, Jade Empire and ME1 and ME2 - the second the end credits finished - NEW GAME. I needed more of this world, this experience I loved it so much. It was great. ME3 had the opposite affect.

It really, really killed the desire to jump back into the world. Damn shame.

Killed the franchise for me. No desire to play any ME game. 

[RavenEyry]

RECON64BIT7 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Mass Relays were central to everything. No relays means the universe is left very much not relatively the same.

You're telling me that millenia year old galactic civilizations can't figure out a way to make a comeback. I imagine that the next tales could be set in a rebirth of the ME universe, the return of extrasolar space travel. 

I'd be perfectly happy to play a game about the return of extrasolar travel. I just don't want to play a Mass Effect game about the return of extrasolar travel.

[Thaa_solon]

Hmmmm my theory is that BW needed to create a scenario where "haters gonna hate" gave us a bittersweet ending to throw us off balance, so they could gain more time to figure out why they rushed the game.

[Icinix]

Thaa_solon wrote...

Hmmmm my theory is that BW needed to create a scenario where "haters gonna hate" gave us a bittersweet ending to throw us off balance, so they could gain more time to figure out why they rushed the game.

Problem is...they forgot the sweet.

[CDRSkyShepard]

Icinix wrote...

Zulmoka531 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Because I sat there after the ending cutscene and said, "That blows," and turned off the TV.

After
I finished both ME1 and ME2, I jumped out of my chair, pumped my fist,
yelled "F*** YEAH!" and proceeded to start another PT.

Wow, are we like..the same person or something. Becuase I did the same exact thing.

Haha.

I see a lot of people say this and I'm the same.

In KOTOR, DAO, Jade Empire and ME1 and ME2 - the second the end credits finished - NEW GAME. I needed more of this world, this experience I loved it so much. It was great. ME3 had the opposite affect.

It really, really killed the desire to jump back into the world. Damn shame.

I think, in the end, if all other argument falls through, the one that remains will be: "The ending made me feel horrible."

That alone is enough of a reason for the ending to be considered a failure. Where the previous games gave you a sense of empowerment (ignoring Shep dies in ME2), actually completing what you set out to do in the beginning - defeating the Reapers - makes you feel depressed, like you didn't actually accomplish anything. I'd be more willing to accept a hollow feeling...where you succeeded, but at great cost. That might have been what they were going for, but it wasn't that, it was infuriating. There was only a cheap attempt at invoking a sense of loss, and it just made everyone feel lousy. This is entertainment, you don't want to aim to make your audience feel lousy at the end of a trilogy (maybe at the end of a previous title, but not when everything is said and done). Why would they ever go back to it if they felt lousy?

[sydranark]

I can't tell if the OP is serious. Someone help me understand if the OP is serious or not.

[CuseGirl]

At a minimum of 30 things wrong with the ending. 45, if you realize the writing is poor once the Thessia mission ends.

For me personally, once I get through the mars mission, i struggle to continue. And its because I kno how the game ends and it ends poorly. I dont kept to keep my promise to Miranda. The relays are destroyed for no reason at all. The galactic fleet is stuck in the Sol system. The Starchild? Then Stargazer?!! Oy.....

[CuseGirl]

Sorry double post

Modifié par CuseGirl, 04 juin 2012 - 06:56 .

[MsKlaussen]

RECON64BIT7 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Bioware destroyed the Mass Effect universe as we know it in the end. I don't want new stories in this universe as much as I don't want a Star Trek prequel set before warp drive was invented.

How? If you chose the right ending then the reapers are no more and the universe is left relatively the same as it was before if you consider the inconsistencies of the star child. 

You've answered yourself in your very own post above. That there could be a single "right" ending in a game built on player individuality and a plethora of different choices indicates that the very foundation of the game was abandoned at the end. What further misunderstandings can there be about the ire of players given this?

As I see it, there are only two ways a person could be at a loss as to fanbase dissatisfaction with ME3 :

1. Through complete unawareness of how this saga was constructed and what it built its platform on.

2. Through a level of denial similar to the one which would result in someone arguing that water is not wet, or that the Earth truly is flat. Even now.

Point 1 is actually nothing too bad. I mean there are many people who joined the ME series during 2 or 3 based on word of mouth or increased advertisement who have no idea what the premise is or what Bioware stressed made it groundbreaking and superior and don't really care. They wouldn't necessarily get what the devaluation of player choices at the very end of the series does to the entire experience for series-long players.

Point 2 is just pathetic, so I'm deciding on my own to believe you're going on Point 1.

[JPR1964]

Baa Baa wrote...

I could write a 10 page response as to what's wrong with the ending but I'm just going to save my time by saying: It is just awful. Too many plot holes, consistences, change of themes, abrupt ending, more questions than answers, TOTAL ****ING RIP OFF OF DEUS EX, the ending is a Deus Ex Machina which is just lazy story telling. I'm going to stop myself there.

With you, to the bitter end...





JPR out!

[Zulmoka531]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Zulmoka531 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Because I sat there after the ending cutscene and said, "That blows," and turned off the TV.

After
I finished both ME1 and ME2, I jumped out of my chair, pumped my fist,
yelled "F*** YEAH!" and proceeded to start another PT.

Wow, are we like..the same person or something. Becuase I did the same exact thing.

Haha.

I see a lot of people say this and I'm the same.

In KOTOR, DAO, Jade Empire and ME1 and ME2 - the second the end credits finished - NEW GAME. I needed more of this world, this experience I loved it so much. It was great. ME3 had the opposite affect.

It really, really killed the desire to jump back into the world. Damn shame.

I think, in the end, if all other argument falls through, the one that remains will be: "The ending made me feel horrible."

That alone is enough of a reason for the ending to be considered a failure. Where the previous games gave you a sense of empowerment (ignoring Shep dies in ME2), actually completing what you set out to do in the beginning - defeating the Reapers - makes you feel depressed, like you didn't actually accomplish anything. I'd be more willing to accept a hollow feeling...where you succeeded, but at great cost. That might have been what they were going for, but it wasn't that, it was infuriating. There was only a cheap attempt at invoking a sense of loss, and it just made everyone feel lousy. This is entertainment, you don't want to aim to make your audience feel lousy at the end of a trilogy (maybe at the end of a previous title, but not when everything is said and done). Why would they ever go back to it if they felt lousy?

Take into the account that Shepard dying really holds no emtional value for many. Why? Becuase they killed him/her once already, that sting of death is gone, that heroic sacrifice is gone. There's no emontional value or sting when you've already seen your hero die once and then die again, each death being for stupid reasons.

Modifié par Zulmoka531, 04 juin 2012 - 10:50 .

[Pottumuusi]

Because it doesn't make any goddamn sense.

[FellishBeast]

 

[farhansdisplayname]

RECON64BIT7 wrote...

 The only real issue I have is the star child coming out of no where. However, this is such a little problem and in no way is the game automatically bad to me because of it. People are calling "ME3 biggest let down of the year" All because of the ending? Which wasn't even that bad to me. Yeah the story of the other party members ended abruptly but they are not important, only Shepard is important.

We only need to know about how Shepard defeated the Reapers not how he is going to pay his mortgage after the mission or who he is going to nail in his beach home. The reapers are dead, the story is over. Shepard did his job. Now we have a great sci fi universe that will no doubt have more games, books and even movies based off it. I for one welcome new stories based in ME universe.

I personally think that what made ME special in the first place ARE the characters/party members around Shepard. We spent a whole game (ME2) just recruiting people and getting to know them. Yes, the trilogy is about the Reaper threat, but the characters/party members are just as important. Well hey, thats just my opinion anyway :innocent:

[H. Birdman]

Wow, what a novel analysis. All of these arguments certainly haven't been hashed out, refuted, reiterated, re-refuted, and re-hashed hundreds upon hundreds of times on this forum alone, or anything. It's high time someone provided an explanation of their objections to the ending, because there certainly aren't thousands of elaborate, well-researched and reasoned videos, blogs and forum posts all over the internet doing precisely that.

[Sousabird]

I hated the no closure but bioware is gonna fix it with E.C apparently

[Apocaleepse360]

I'm far too tired for this debate again... Look for the reasons on youtube.