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IsaacShep wrote...

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IT from the get go says destroy is how to break out of indoctrination.

That is one of the core beliefs about the theory.  If you don't know that, you obviously haven't read a thing about IT.

Yes, so Shepard didn't break out from Indoctrination in Blue/Green ending. So how could he end the Reaper threat in those endings, like Bioware says, if he didn't break out fro indoctrination?



Post credit DLC advertisment has merits in the story.


Oh wait, no it doesn't.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

IT from the get go says destroy is how to break out of indoctrination.

That is one of the core beliefs about the theory.  If you don't know that, you obviously haven't read a thing about IT.

Yes, so Shepard didn't break out from Indoctrination in Blue/Green ending. So how could he end the Reaper threat in those endings, like Bioware says, if he didn't break out fro indoctrination?


His post reminds me of those people who exercise demons from vacuums.

HAVE YOU READ.........ABOUT THE WORD.........OF YOUR SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST?

Yes, and I wasn't all that impressed thank you.

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Leafs43 wrote...

Post credit DLC advertisment has merits in the story.

Oh wait, no it doesn't.

That's all you got lol? Bioware sayd Shep ended the Reaper threat in all endings. Their word is official, they're the authors and creators of the game. You can't do anything about it.

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What I don't get about IT supporters (maybe not all, but a whole lot of them) is how they think their THEORY = THE ONE AND ONLY TRUTH. You remind me of religious zealots.



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Taboo-XX wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

IT from the get go says destroy is how to break out of indoctrination.

That is one of the core beliefs about the theory.  If you don't know that, you obviously haven't read a thing about IT.

Yes, so Shepard didn't break out from Indoctrination in Blue/Green ending. So how could he end the Reaper threat in those endings, like Bioware says, if he didn't break out fro indoctrination?


His post reminds me of those people who exercise demons from vacuums.

HAVE YOU READ.........ABOUT THE WORD.........OF YOUR SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST?

Yes, and I wasn't all that impressed thank you.



You happen to not read anything again I take it.


His theory is that IT says that Shepard doesn't win at all in any fashion.


Please do me the courtesy of doing due dilligence before you try and post insults.

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IsaacShep wrote...

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It still breaks the 4th wall though.  Like someone else said before why would they let the cat out of the bag right away if they really wanted to fool you.


So basically you're going back to "it was all part of the plan". Even though there absolutely no evidence to that, not even in a beta leak that contained internal documents of Bioware writers and spoiled pretty much everything else in the game.


So you know exactly what percentage of documents were leaked?  50%  80%  The script may not have even been finalized when the leak happened.

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Stopped supporting IT after the EC was announced. Since then, I've seen the ginormous holes in it.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

Post credit DLC advertisment has merits in the story.

Oh wait, no it doesn't.

That's all you got lol? Bioware sayd Shep ended the Reaper threat in all endings. Their word is official, they're the authors and creators of the game. You can't do anything about it.


"Please buy our DLC"  

So Shepard was just a computer program all along!  Their word is final.

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Leafs43 wrote...

His theory is that IT says that Shepard doesn't win at all in any fashion.

Explain to us how does Shepard end the Reaper threat if he can't break out from indoctrination.

Leafs43 wrote...

"Please buy our DLC"  

So Shepard was just a computer program all along!  Their word is final.

Ohh right. I forgot what Leafs43 says on BSN is more important than what the authors say in their game lololololo

killage_wizard wrote...

So you know exactly what
percentage of documents were leaked?  50%  80%  The script may not have
even been finalized when the leak happened.

About 99%. We knew practically everything. Go check the old Spoiler group and old threads in it. Everything was known and discussed

Modifié par IsaacShep, 04 juin 2012 - 03:28 .


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IsaacShep wrote...

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His theory is that IT says that Shepard doesn't win at all in any fashion.

Explain to us how does Shepard end the Reaper threat if he can't break out from indoctrination.



You don';t.  You lose.


It's merely a DLC advertisement and nothing beyond that.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

Post credit DLC advertisment has merits in the story.

Oh wait, no it doesn't.

That's all you got lol? Bioware sayd Shep ended the Reaper threat in all endings. Their word is official, they're the authors and creators of the game. You can't do anything about it.


In all endings? Really? Please tell me where they say that! Better yet, please show it, oh goody would I love to see it!

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IsaacShep wrote...
About 99%. We knew practically everything. Go check the old Spoiler group and old threads in it. Everything was known and discussed


Exactly.  99% and practically everything.  Is it so hard to believe that what would have been the biggest plot spoiler was left under lock and key so there would be no leaks of it even if other parts of the script were?  Movies shoot and TV shows shoot multiple endings all the time so that the cast does not even know what is going to happpen when they wrap.

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Leafs43 wrote...

You don';t.  You lose.

Exactly. Therefore, IT is simply false because Bioware specifically said that you don't lose. Case closed.

Leafs43 wrote...

It's merely a DLC advertisement and nothing beyond that.

Still swimming in the Nile?

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In all endings? Really? Please tell me where they say that! Better yet, please show it, oh goody would I love to see it!

It show after every ending.

killage_wizard wrote...

Exactly.  99% and practically everything.  Is it so hard to believe that what would have been the biggest plot spoiler was left under lock and key so there would be no leaks of it even if other parts of the script were?  Movies shoot and TV shows shoot multiple endings all the time so that the cast does not even know what is going to happpen when they wrap.

We're not talking "parts" of the script being leaked.; Virtually the entire thing leaked lol. That's the point.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 04 juin 2012 - 03:34 .


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I have supported IT, my biggest concern though is that IF it were to come true, it means Shepard is still on the ground after being partially zapped by the Harbinger laser, and is still in a condition not fit for fighting.

Unless I didn't read it properly..

What would happen then? I'm not trying to **** on IT, I just want to hear some opinions/explanations.



Depends on how heavily Shep was Indoctrinated at that point. One theory I have is that Harbinger either never showed up or never actually fired his beam, that little bit is created in Sheps head. This means that to everyone else Shep would have suddenly dropped to the ground as we journeyed into his subconscious. 

This is highly unlikely. Harbinger probably fired close to or swerved his beam at the last minute which caused Sheps  Psyche to break and that's where our journey began. 

This is just speculation because at this point we really don't know. 

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Please due me the due diligence of reading my posts.

I was talking about YOUR post.

All the choices end the threat. You just haven't figured that out yet.

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Zardoc wrote...

What I don't get about IT supporters (maybe not all, but a whole lot of them) is how they think their THEORY = THE ONE AND ONLY TRUTH. You remind me of religious zealots.

how many theorys out there use mass effect lore and the basic lore of mass effect 3 to where to makes sense, anything theory comes with has to tie in with the game more, also it has to be evidence that simple minded people can under stand it. As it stands right now the inodctriation theory has more evidence to tie with last two games and the mass effect lore. The beings of light theory makes no sense whats so ever because the Godkid says * I no you thought about destroying us* and the beings of light are against the reapers in the first place.   

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My Issue With IT has to do with the people shoving it down my throat saying any inconsistency in the the plot is Indoctrination. I dont mind IT myself. I think its an extremely well put together Idea. However I dont believe it was intended or is what happened.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

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Mcfly616 wrote...

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IT means that I just paid 100 bucks to have a company punk me of an ending they sold the game based upon. It wouldn't be quite as obnoxious if the rest of the game was up to par, which it isn't.


So you still have an unfinished game, with a crappy ending
how dose that make you feel?


IT isn't an ending either



Exactly. But the ending we got isn't an "ending" either.....IT just gives Bioware a chance to make a better one.....


Oh....


You'd rather have the crappy one you have now? Weird....



No: I'd rather have a not crappy ending.  How hard is that to grasp?


And the IT creates the opportunity for Bioware to take the story anywhere they imagine....possibly making a "not crappy" ending......how hard is that to grasp?


A) by using the second worst writing technique on earth ("it was a dream")
B) this means the game I bought was not finished
C) IT necesitates more gameplay to reach a satasfying ending, which will NOT be free.

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IsaacShep wrote...

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You don';t.  You lose.

Exactly. Therefore, IT is simply false because Bioware specifically said that you don't lose. Case closed.

Leafs43 wrote...

It's merely a DLC advertisement and nothing beyond that.

Still swimming in the Nile?




If you want to take things literal the actual text is:
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Oh so we can continue to build on the legend?  But Shjepard turns into a pile of ash if he chooses control or synthesis.


How does Shepard build on the legend if he is dead?  Bioware said it and their word is final.



I'll wait a minute while you unrustle your jimmies.

Modifié par Leafs43, 04 juin 2012 - 03:37 .


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I'd rather have a crappy ending than no ending.

At least with the EC they can spend all their time working on what they already have, rather than having to make up something new which could end up being just as crap.

all they would have to do is extend on the current ending, a reaper would say your mind is more strong willed than we thought and thats it to tie in with indoctriation theory

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IsaacShep wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

You don';t.  You lose.

Exactly. Therefore, IT is simply false because Bioware specifically said that you don't lose. Case closed.

Leafs43 wrote...

It's merely a DLC advertisement and nothing beyond that.

Still swimming in the Nile?

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In all endings? Really? Please tell me where they say that! Better yet, please show it, oh goody would I love to see it!

It show after every ending.


It doesn't say Shepard ended the threat by picking control, synthesis, or destroy.  It only says he ended.  Its not specific enough to completely disprove I.T.  And its vague enough to not matter.  It is after all only a DLC ad.  is it evidence against I.T.?  Sure, but it is only one piece of evidence and there is far more that leads me to believe I.T. is correct.

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IsaacShep wrote...

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In all endings? Really? Please tell me where they say that! Better yet, please show it, oh goody would I love to see it!

It show after every ending.


No, no I must see specifically what you're talking about if you could please do that.

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ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

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In all endings? Really? Please tell me where they say that! Better yet, please show it, oh goody would I love to see it!

It show after every ending.


No, no I must see specifically what you're talking about if you could please do that.


How can he show you? You're online.

Do it yourself and come back.

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A) by using the second worst writing technique on earth ("it was a dream")
B) this means the game I bought was not finished
C) IT necesitates more gameplay to reach a satasfying ending, which will NOT be free.

D) Control/Synthesis choices invalidated, extreme Paragon pendering
E) Awful pacing guaranteed considering wer already have "Reapers get defeated" cutscenes in the game

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Oh so we can continue to build on the legend?  But Shjepard turns into a pile of ash if he chooses control or synthesis.

How does Shepard build on the legend if he is dead?  Bioware said it and their word is final.

I'll wait a minute while you unrustle your jimmies.

By DLC and missions played before Cronos Station which is where the game bumps you back after you finish it. WHat a stunning revelation.