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[Taboo]

Leafs43 wrote...

Oh so we can continue to build on the legend?  But Shjepard turns into a pile of ash if he chooses control or synthesis.


How does Shepard build on the legend if he is dead?  Bioware said it and their word is final.



I'll wait a minute while you unrustle your jimmies.

You do realize that that means pre-ending content right?

Your reading comprehension should be at some degree of competence by now but you haven't yet realized that everything that you see is exatcly as Bioware intended it to be. All choices end the threat and you can buy more pre-ending DLC to add to your war assets.

That's why it returns you to the game pre-cerberus base assault, which is the point of no return.

This isn't difficult to figure out.

[killage_wizard]

IsaacShep wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

You don';t.  You lose.

Exactly. Therefore, IT is simply false because Bioware specifically said that you don't lose. Case closed.

Leafs43 wrote...

It's merely a DLC advertisement and nothing beyond that.

Still swimming in the Nile?

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

In all endings? Really? Please tell me where they say that! Better yet, please show it, oh goody would I love to see it!

It show after every ending.

killage_wizard wrote...

Exactly.  99% and practically everything.  Is it so hard to believe that what would have been the biggest plot spoiler was left under lock and key so there would be no leaks of it even if other parts of the script were?  Movies shoot and TV shows shoot multiple endings all the time so that the cast does not even know what is going to happpen when they wrap.

We're not talking "parts" of the script being leaked.; Virtually the entire thing leaked lol. That's the point.

And what if the entire thing got leaked except for the very end?  The point of I.T. would be conccealing until the end.

Modifié par killage_wizard, 04 juin 2012 - 03:41 .

[Leafs43]

IsaacShep wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

Oh so we can continue to build on the legend?  But Shjepard turns into a pile of ash if he chooses control or synthesis.

How does Shepard build on the legend if he is dead?  Bioware said it and their word is final.

I'll wait a minute while you unrustle your jimmies.

By DLC and missions played before Cronos Station which is where the game bumps you back after you finish it. WHat a stunning revelation.

All new game+ saves take you back before you beat the the reapers.


So how do you build on a legend that hasn't happened yet?



Oh, I guess now its a dlc advertisement so it fits your argument.

[BigGuy28]

[Taboo]

You have to be trolling.

You can't be serious.

You have to be trolling.

[dirtdiver32318]

Space magic lol

[killage_wizard]

thesnake777 wrote...

My Issue With IT has to do with the people shoving it down my throat saying any inconsistency in the the plot is Indoctrination. I dont mind IT myself. I think its an extremely well put together Idea. However I dont believe it was intended or is what happened.

I for one am not shoving it down anyones throat.  I look at what I see.  It leads me to believe IT, and I want to talk about it.  I would also say that the "IT Haters" are doing the same thing with "all the plotholes are just terrible writing so deal with it".

[Leafs43]

Taboo-XX wrote...

You have to be trolling.

You can't be serious.

You have to be trolling.

He wants to take it as a literal interpretation, I'm doing just that.



I've said from the beginning its a dlc advertisement.  But apparantly if it's not that means Shepard now has time traveling abilities.

Modifié par Leafs43, 04 juin 2012 - 03:46 .

[davishepard]

Leafs43 wrote...


All new game+ saves take you back before you beat the the reapers.


So how do you build on a legend that hasn't happened yet?



Oh, I guess now its a dlc advertisement so it fits your argument.

The game informs you that you ended the Reaper threat, and takes you back because the future DLC is meant to happen before the endings.

So hard to get it.

[Seboist]

So, is "indoctrination" also the reason why ME3 completely invalidated ME1's plot or why we got the completely nonsensical crucible plot? How about Cerberus being retconned in a galactic sith empire or why an Alliance defence committee go full retard and grovel at Shepard's feet? Does it explain those too?

[killage_wizard]

Leafs43 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

Oh so we can continue to build on the legend?  But Shjepard turns into a pile of ash if he chooses control or synthesis.

How does Shepard build on the legend if he is dead?  Bioware said it and their word is final.

I'll wait a minute while you unrustle your jimmies.

By DLC and missions played before Cronos Station which is where the game bumps you back after you finish it. WHat a stunning revelation.

All new game+ saves take you back before you beat the the reapers.


So how do you build on a legend that hasn't happened yet?



Oh, I guess now its a dlc advertisement so it fits your argument.

We also don't get a take back Omega DLC if Shepard doesn't make it.  Aria said she would take if back after the battle.

[killage_wizard]

BigGuy28 wrote...

or Deus Ex Machina

[PlumPaul93]

What i don't get about the IT cult is why they continue to spam a fan made theory.

[shepskisaac]

Leafs43 wrote...

Oh, I guess now its a dlc advertisement so it fits your argument.

Of course it's also DLC ad. And it's also official word from developers that the main story ended and Shep succeesed in all endings. Scream all you want, they're the authors, what they say about the story is canon, not what Leafs43 says.

Seboist wrote...

So, is "indoctrination" also the reason why ME3 completely invalidated ME1's plot or why we got the completely nonsensical crucible plot? How about Cerberus being retconned in a galactic sith empire or why an Alliance defence committee go full retard and grovel at Shepard's feet? Does it explain those too?

You silly, it was all a dream even since the beacon on Eden Prime in ME1.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 04 juin 2012 - 03:50 .

[Taboo]

It wants you to buy things before the ending.

There was no intention of adding anything to the endings.

It fits a genre of storytelling.

It called an Open Ending.

They failed MISERABLY.

[Leafs43]

davishepard wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...


All new game+ saves take you back before you beat the the reapers.


So how do you build on a legend that hasn't happened yet?



Oh, I guess now its a dlc advertisement so it fits your argument.

The game informs you that you ended the Reaper threat, and takes you back because the future DLC is meant to happen before the endings.

So hard to get it.

The game informs me that after I have dispatched the reaper threat I can continue to build on my legend.


How can I do that if Shepard is dead?

[LucasShark]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

What i don't get about the IT cult is why they continue to spam a fan made theory.

Because as long as any other people doubt it, they won't feel totally secure.

[jijeebo]

XxDarkTimexX wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

I'd rather have a crappy ending than no ending.

At least with the EC they can spend all their time working on what they already have, rather than having to make up something new which could end up being just as crap.

all they would have to do is extend on the current ending, a reaper would say your mind is more strong willed than we thought and thats it to tie in with indoctriation theory

But what about everything that you thought you'd done but was actually in your head?

TIM, Harbinger, the conduit, the Citadel, the Crucibles function, Reaper origins/motive, the Reaper threat, epilogue and personalisation all have to be worked on with IT because none of these arcs have been solved if Shep wakes up back on Earth. And on top of that you have to at least try and include a decent explanation as to why Shepard was able to resist such a full-on indoctrination attempt. As well as including alternative scenarios for the poor souls who chose Control and Synthesis and are destined to fail because they've just become indoctrinated and as such incapable of defeating the reapers. This will need a separate epilogue explaining what happens to the universe when people chose "wrongly" and doomed everyone to reaper death.


IT wouldn't be an easy thing to implement if they decided to roll with it and do it right.

[XxDarkTimexX]

Leafs43 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

You don';t.  You lose.

Exactly. Therefore, IT is simply false because Bioware specifically said that you don't lose. Case closed.

Leafs43 wrote...

It's merely a DLC advertisement and nothing beyond that.

Still swimming in the Nile?

If you want to take things literal the actual text is:



Oh so we can continue to build on the legend?  But Shjepard turns into a pile of ash if he chooses control or synthesis.


How does Shepard build on the legend if he is dead?  Bioware said it and their word is final.



I'll wait a minute while you unrustle your jimmies.

oh so you believe people that created the game, and said * we won't create a red, blue, and green ending for mass effect 3's ending

[thesnake777]

killage_wizard wrote...

thesnake777 wrote...

My Issue With IT has to do with the people shoving it down my throat saying any inconsistency in the the plot is Indoctrination. I dont mind IT myself. I think its an extremely well put together Idea. However I dont believe it was intended or is what happened.

I for one am not shoving it down anyones throat.  I look at what I see.  It leads me to believe IT, and I want to talk about it.  I would also say that the "IT Haters" are doing the same thing with "all the plotholes are just terrible writing so deal with it".

I was making a statment, which would be refering to some of the more fanatical people who bealive in IT. Like I said I dont have a problem with IT, I think its really well thought out. I just dont agree with it. When I look at the game overall, I think too much credit is being given to the writers.

[Leafs43]

IsaacShep wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

Oh, I guess now its a dlc advertisement so it fits your argument.

Of course it's also DLC ad. And it's also official word from developers that the main story ended and Shep succeesed in all endings. Scream all you want, they're the authors, what they say about the story is canon, not what Leafs43 says.

So it's only a DLC advertisement if it fits your argument.


Good to know.

[killage_wizard]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

What i don't get about the IT cult is why they continue to spam a fan made theory.

What I don't get about IT haters is why they have to spam people discussing a legitimate theory, supported by evidence, that would completely fix the ending.

[Taboo]

Leafs43 wrote...


The game informs me that after I have dispatched the reaper threat I can continue to build on my legend.


How can I do that if Shepard is dead?

BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE PLACE BEFOREHAND.

You cannot be this dense.

You have to be trolling.

[shepskisaac]

Leafs43 wrote...

So it's only a DLC advertisement if it fits your argument.

Good to know.

Developers word on the story >>>>>>>>> your word. And you will simply have to deal with it. They say Shep wins in all endings, you can't do anything about it. IT is false.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 04 juin 2012 - 03:53 .

[Leafs43]

IsaacShep wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

So it's only a DLC advertisement if it fits your argument.

Good to know.

Developers word >>>>>>>>>. your word. And you will simply have to deal with it. They say Shep wins in all endings, you can't do anything about it. IT is false.

Of course.


The devs said I can continue to build on my legend after I have defeated the reapers.


So I guess that means I would have to survive in order to do that.


Which ending does Shepard survive again?  Can you remind me?