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[MsKlaussen]

Don't know if this counts but I actually never made it through the first playthrough.

I heard about the endings online pretty much by the 9th or 10th of March (after picking it up on release day) and had already heard about (and noticed) the SP EMS thing and how nothing seemed to be changing shortly after that. I played for another couple of sessions and got a lot done but when the EMS thing got completely confirmed and testified to by so many people the excitement went right out of me.

I hadn't picked it back up (after many failed resume attempts) until the day before yesterday, because I was becoming sick of the perpetual run from Reapers in map mode crap and it was getting no easier to figure out what cluster any of the things I was looking for were in not to mention what galaxy or actual planet and everywhere I did find something it was either fuel or something I had to run back to the citadel for somebody I was going to have to find. No action after Miranda's deal, and I am clearly not ready to assault TIM's base.

So the other day I played 10 minutes and rage quit because even after acquiring a list of assets and where to find them, half the planets won't show anything or allow scanning and the ones that do I can't get to, scan, and fly away from fast enough to avoid being caught in orbit by Reapers, who are literally reaching the planet as I do regardless of where they have to start from.

Simply don't see enough payoff in the game anymore to continue that. On to Bioshock Infinite.

Modifié par MsKlaussen, 05 juin 2012 - 10:19 .

[fchopin]

I played ME3 10 times so far and i enjoy the game each time i play the game.

[culletron1]

Yeah I'm in the same boat.. I played ME1 and 2 three times each. I don't know why but there is something about me3... I have no inclination to play it again. If I was going to play any of them again it would be 1.

[culletron1]

Matt VT Schlo wrote...

Just once; one time was more than enough. Kinda done with Bioware

Yeah I feel that... Before I was super excited for everything bioware did... After DA2 and ME3 I'm just not all that hyped for any bioware offerings. The last 2 games have just seemed so rushed and lacking in quality.

ME3 as a game was great but the story was just so rushed and cliched... really really awful. DA2 was rotten in every way...

[Vormaerin]

Getorex wrote...

Vormaerin wrote...

Kind of a silly question. The vast majority of players only play a game through once. The little sliver of the player base that the forum visitors represent is rather atypical.

Based upon what?  My father and sister do not do forums.  They have played ME1 and 2 many times, perhaps even more than I did.  They have both played ME3 maybe twice.  They are not "atypical" at all.  Besides that, what idiot would spend >$60 on a game that they will only play ONCE!  Hell, anyone who does that better NEVER EVER complain about theater ticket prices ever again.  Or ski tickets, or Disney tickets, or on and on.

Based on Bioware's datamining.   Most players don't act like we do.  I don't have a quote about ME off the top of my head, but I know that for DAO, the majority of the players only did one playthrough using the human male origin and never touched the others.

Same kind of thing with NWN.  That's a game that's all about the toolset and DM client, right?  Not according to most players.  Most players who bought the game never played any downloaded content, never used the DM client or played in a game where someone did.

Anyway, even at one playthrough, a $60 game is a better value than those other things you mentioned.   A movie is $5 to 6 per hour of entertainment.   A $60 video game, even on one play through, is $1 or 2  per hour.

Personal anecdotes aren't good for much as data, really.   Even if 75% of the players only play the game once, that means that there are hundreds of thousands who played it multiple times. 

[element eater]

spiros9110 wrote...

Yup, basically the same. Played the other two so many times and ME3 SP just once.

[Getorex]

Vormaerin wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Vormaerin wrote...

Kind of a silly question. The vast majority of players only play a game through once. The little sliver of the player base that the forum visitors represent is rather atypical.

Based upon what?  My father and sister do not do forums.  They have played ME1 and 2 many times, perhaps even more than I did.  They have both played ME3 maybe twice.  They are not "atypical" at all.  Besides that, what idiot would spend >$60 on a game that they will only play ONCE!  Hell, anyone who does that better NEVER EVER complain about theater ticket prices ever again.  Or ski tickets, or Disney tickets, or on and on.

Based on Bioware's datamining.   Most players don't act like we do.  I don't have a quote about ME off the top of my head, but I know that for DAO, the majority of the players only did one playthrough using the human male origin and never touched the others.

Same kind of thing with NWN.  That's a game that's all about the toolset and DM client, right?  Not according to most players.  Most players who bought the game never played any downloaded content, never used the DM client or played in a game where someone did.

Anyway, even at one playthrough, a $60 game is a better value than those other things you mentioned.   A movie is $5 to 6 per hour of entertainment.   A $60 video game, even on one play through, is $1 or 2  per hour.

Personal anecdotes aren't good for much as data, really.   Even if 75% of the players only play the game once, that means that there are hundreds of thousands who played it multiple times. 

If most players don't play more than once then it is a waste of resources and time to make DLC.  Period.  ME3 probably got few (outlier) replayers but a lot of single plays.  ME1 and ME2?  Replay city.  DLC was fairly heavy for ME2 so, on average, I'd bet ME2 got the most replays (even though the story of ME1 was superior).  ME1 had one DLC.  They couldn't wait to drop that baby and birth a new one (ME2).  ME3?  They may have planned DLC along the lines of ME2 but I suspect they will be sadly disappointed in the buy-in.  I'd bet LESS than ME2.  Easily.

[DEATHSCOPE]

I'm on the PS3. Just played Mass Effect 2 for the second time, on the third right now for the second time also, waiting for the Extended Cut.

[Estelindis]

Yes: I've played ME1 and ME2 many times, but have absolutely no desire to replay ME3... in spite of the many brilliant, touching and heart-wrenching moments that it had. It's really sad.

[Palladin123]

Same here - only one play-through. I just didn't feel like picking it up again after seeing the endings. I'll probably play it again once the EC is released or if they release a well received DLC (well-received by the community, that is. I don't trust the review websites anymore). Multiplayer has been definitely a pleasant surprise though. I started playing MP just to get my EMS up, but I've now spent much more time on the multiplayer portion of the game than the singleplayer.

Kind of sad in a way, that many players are spending more time on the multiplayer shooter-only portion of a Bioware RPG. This says something about where Bioware was and is. Hopefully they'll get back to where they were with DA3.

[wolfsite]

Got 18 characters from ME1
All 18 went into ME2 with some doing NG+
Only 1 character has made it threw ME3.  3 or 4 have tried going threw but I just lsoe interest so only one complete playthrough.

I'm actually thinking about un-insalling all 3 games right now as I can't bring myself to play them anymore.

[animadpig]

Me, I only played ME3 once. But I have played ME1 and ME2 more than 10 times.

[Zaidra]

I don't even want to bother until the extended cut release.
Surprising to me since I played through me1 three times, and then me1 100% three times, and then me2 twice, and then me 2 100% five times (so me1 six times and me2 seven times) so I'm actually surprised that I have no urge to play me3 again...

Modifié par Zaidra, 06 juin 2012 - 01:48 .

[mx3ze]

Same for me. Uncountable hours played in me1 and 2.. then.. almost rushed me3.. i was so hyped then.. i did not bother playing it again without rushing it.. the end prooves it doesn't matter anyway. I'll probably use my mass effect cd's as freesbees this summer..

[Raycer X]

I've stopped playing. I'll wait for the EC to see how Bioware defends their artistic integrity. Besides, a triple A game specifically aimed at making money is considered artistic? Who would have thought?

[Vormaerin]

Getorex wrote...

If most players don't play more than once then it is a waste of resources and time to make DLC.  Period.  ME3 probably got few (outlier) replayers but a lot of single plays.  ME1 and ME2?  Replay city.  DLC was fairly heavy for ME2 so, on average, I'd bet ME2 got the most replays (even though the story of ME1 was superior).  ME1 had one DLC.  They couldn't wait to drop that baby and birth a new one (ME2).  ME3?  They may have planned DLC along the lines of ME2 but I suspect they will be sadly disappointed in the buy-in.  I'd bet LESS than ME2.  Easily.

You are making some strange assumptions.   One of the big advantages of DLC is that it is cheaper to make than an expansion, so you need a lower number of purchases to 'break even'.    Expansions sell significantly less well than the originals.  My understanding is that DLCs, individually, sell rather less well than expansions used to.   Though I don't recall seeing any specifics on Bioware's DLC offerings in the ME series.

For DAO, all the DLC other than Shale got played on a "post end save."  I didn't replay the game to play the DLC.  Most of the ME2 DLC  (LotSB/Arrival) were final save plays also.  

Its entirely possible for people to get value out of DLC without many playthroughs.

[Disgruntled Shepard]

Yeah, it hurts playing it; WHile waiting for the game to be released I read Casey Hudson saying that because this was the last game of the trilogy they had more room to acomodate for different endings and then I read there were 16 distinct endings (I have trouble finding any difference other than the colour with the three we got, let alone the tiny variations that sum up to 16) I actually fell for those claims and because of that to me ME3 has beaten the all time record in computer gaming history of disapointment ... and it's a shame really becuase the game doesn't suck -it isn't mindblowing either, mind you- but all in all it is a good game despite its overall flaws (like autodialogue) but the blow that killed the game was its wicked, predetermined, nonsensical, no choice and consequence, simplistic, and poorly executed ending that utterly failed at fullfilling even the slightest trace of hype of the game. We all know hype is exageration, but it usually isn't an outright lie, that it was this time.

The retake movement, is a sociological proof, never before I've seen such an uproar on the net over such an "stupid" thing like what after all is just another "stupid" game, but you know what?? If Bioware had made a truly sucking game, that would have never happened, it happened becuase some parts of the game (and the prequels) where very high quality but the ending was a total disapointment in comparisson. Quite a pitty really.

[Father_Jerusalem]

Played it through three times, on my fourth runthrough (Vanguard this time, have done Soldier, Adept, and Infiltrator).

Going to do two more runthroughs when this one is done (Engineer and Sentinel, obviously). When the EC is released, I'll go through each one of those characters in a new game+, this time on Insanity for a total of 12 playthroughs

You want to slag me for liking the game? Bring it on.

[ref]

Yep. I'm waiting until the EC comes out to do another full length re-playthrough with my only main shepard.

[AlanC9]

Vormaerin wrote...

Getorex wrote...

If most players don't play more than once then it is a waste of resources and time to make DLC.  Period.  ME3 probably got few (outlier) replayers but a lot of single plays.  ME1 and ME2?  Replay city.  DLC was fairly heavy for ME2 so, on average, I'd bet ME2 got the most replays (even though the story of ME1 was superior).  ME1 had one DLC.  They couldn't wait to drop that baby and birth a new one (ME2).  ME3?  They may have planned DLC along the lines of ME2 but I suspect they will be sadly disappointed in the buy-in.  I'd bet LESS than ME2.  Easily.

You are making some strange assumptions.   One of the big advantages of DLC is that it is cheaper to make than an expansion, so you need a lower number of purchases to 'break even'.    Expansions sell significantly less well than the originals.  My understanding is that DLCs, individually, sell rather less well than expansions used to.   Though I don't recall seeing any specifics on Bioware's DLC offerings in the ME series.

For DAO, all the DLC other than Shale got played on a "post end save."  I didn't replay the game to play the DLC.  Most of the ME2 DLC  (LotSB/Arrival) were final save plays also.  

Its entirely possible for people to get value out of DLC without many playthroughs.

To be fair to Getorex, his argument about DLC profitability can work even if you don't believe that a very high percentage of gamers replay the games. (And yeah, that's not believable --- unless you believe not only that Bio's lying about their figures, but that the entire rest of the industry is lying too, and lying in a way that makes their games look worse than they actually are) The argument depends on what percentage of ME3 players feel the way he does about DLC, and what the DLC profitability threshold is. We don't know either the percentage or the threshold.

Modifié par AlanC9, 06 juin 2012 - 04:00 .

[Rustedness]

Tried a second play, didn't even reach Tuchanka.

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Played it through three times, on my fourth runthrough (Vanguard this time, have done Soldier, Adept, and Infiltrator).

Going
to do two more runthroughs when this one is done (Engineer and
Sentinel, obviously). When the EC is released, I'll go through each one
of those characters in a new game+, this time on Insanity for a total of
12 playthroughs

You want to slag me for liking the game? Bring it on.

*slags*

Modifié par Rustedness, 06 juin 2012 - 04:20 .

[Fidget6]

Jiso wrote...
 Its not that i dont like the game, I do. But i just dont want to play it anymore.

Pretty much. For some reason I just don't feel compelled to play through again. If I did replay a Bioware game, I'd rather play Mass Effect 2 or Dragon Age Origins.

[Fidget6]

culletron1 wrote...

Yeah I'm in the same boat.. I played ME1 and 2 three times each. I don't know why but there is something about me3... I have no inclination to play it again. 

I think I may have just thought of what that "something" is. It's that it's too emotionally draining. For the first two, there was so much awesome badass stuff going on all the time, and they just felt epic and fun. While ME3 is kind of like watching an extremely depressing movie. You may absolutely love the film, but it's probably not one you'll feel like watching over and over again.

[hangmans tree]

Jiso wrote...

 I played and beat ME1 over 10 times. I played and beat ME2 over 20 time. But with ME3 i got it the day it was released, beat it a few days later. havn't played it since. I actually dont even have it installed on my pc anymore. Its not that i dont like the game, I do. But i just dont want to play it anymore. Anyone else?

Yep, me too...

[Iceyonline]

I played through twice...
The second turn I only managed because of the IT running around gave me motivation to have another go to look around.
Haven't touched it since.