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[Ikilledkillab]

BoomDynamite wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

BoomDynamite wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

BoomDynamite wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

As stated multiple tmes and by others in here....the OP infy class attracts poor players. Its the infys that cause wipes on gold the majority of my pub matches in RRG games.

It attacts noobs/silver level players into gold, when they aen't gold ready yet. That is the problem. Other than that I could care less how much/little fun you have or how fast/slow you obtain your credits. Its none of my business.

To me, this isn't a problem; If they're having fun then they're having fun. As mentioned you don't care about others enjoying their experience so I  recommend you make some friends and create private games to get the full experience out of the multiplayer experience!

That's basically saying TC won't be nerfed. YES!

Obviosuly it won't be. ME3 doesn't cater to skilled players. They want to keep casual gamers like yourself happy. But we can at least make them rethink things before the next game roles out.

Who said I was a casual gamer?

Obvsious from your comments, the least of which is you running to defend an obviously OP class at every turn. If you were any good you wouldn't be claiming this class isn't OP. That is a fact.

A full team of Biotics is VASTLY better than a full team of Infiltrators. I've played the game enough to know that. I play the Infiltrator class because I like stealth. Biotic Detonations are too easy to play all of the time for my liking. Also, my favorite class right now is the Soldier, mainly because they have so many ways to spec them. I don't always defend Infiltrators. Oh, and btw, you calling TC OP is an opinion, not a fact.

Its a fact and while a full team of biotics is good I would put a full team of SIs or GIs against anyone. 4 stacking proxy mines and claymores won't be beat even by biotics.

Also this is irrelevant becayse a fully coordinated team means you are in a private match 95% of the time. That is not part of the issue under discussion here.

[Terraflare]

Hey op hardcore pro gamer, i like how you cite mw3 and bf3 as evidence of how hardcore you are at shooters. Heres a clue: why not load up quake live and see if you can land triple airshots on a player flying across your screen faster than grenades fly out of tubes in mw3.

Gosh how can you bear to type what you type? I cant even post this without feeling ashamed of myself.

[Ikilledkillab]

Terraflare wrote...

Hey op hardcore pro gamer, i like how you cite mw3 and bf3 as evidence of how hardcore you are at shooters. Heres a clue: why not load up quake live and see if you can land triple airshots on a player flying across your screen faster than grenades fly out of tubes in mw3.

Gosh how can you bear to type what you type? I cant even post this without feeling ashamed of myself.

I like quickscoping and dragscoping. Hardscoping is for real life.

[Malditor]

Ikilledkillab wrote...

This is how I propose the nerf occurs....

In light of all the recent threads on this, it is quite clear that a huge number of ME3 multiplayer recognize the OP nature of infiltrators and want them nerfed for better game balance. Here is the easiest way to do it....

I see nothing of the sort, I see the same people repeatedly saying it, not a huge number of people.

[dnapayne]

Thomas Abram wrote...

To me, this isn't a problem; If they're having fun then they're having fun. As mentioned you don't care about others enjoying their experience so I  recommend you make some friends and create private games to get the full experience out of the multiplayer experience!

Exactly

Modifié par dnapayne, 14 juin 2012 - 05:31 .

[tfoltz]

If unskilled players use overpowered classes to compensate for poor gameplay, and the overpowered classes are nerfed, then unskilled players will have to choose a regular classes and provide even worse gameplay, thus diminishing the odds of winning, thus diminishing the amount of credits earned, thus removing reward system, thus removing the fun for all involved.

No changes should be made.

[deadpixel92]

@Ikilledkillab so me thinking you aren't right makes me a casual player and that is fact?, oh dude you don't even know what to say now do you? im very sure im a skilled player at this game and the people i play with can vouch for that, but i don't care about that when im playing, i play as a team and with the goal of having fun, this is a co op game, is not PVP, don't care if you are the best player in the world which im sure you are not, i care if you are a nice person to play with and clearly you are not. Do not think you are better than casual players because you THINK you are skilled at this game. Show some respect.

[kevchy]

Malditor wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

This is how I propose the nerf occurs....

In light of all the recent threads on this, it is quite clear that a huge number of ME3 multiplayer recognize the OP nature of infiltrators and want them nerfed for better game balance. Here is the easiest way to do it....

I see nothing of the sort, I see the same people repeatedly saying it, not a huge number of people.

True. It always the same people creating multiple topics, which can go on for multiple pages when people argue back and forth.

[Deviean]

nasteerus wrote...

why then use a BW or a widow? now what happens to people who live in the lens of a scope? WIPE. if you like camping and are annyoed of having to TC to get across the map or to leave, then you are not the player I want in a squad.

are you telling me that you can't use one of the easiest class in the game correctly. aww

For the record, i'm using AR(Harrier II) and very pleased with it. And i'm staying with the team.

Asari can camp and spam skills, so what's your point ? Do you know what two asari can do in comparison with two infiltrators ?

Easiest class ? Maybe. "Overpowered" ? I don't agree.

[Terraflare]

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Terraflare wrote...

Hey op hardcore pro gamer, i like how you cite mw3 and bf3 as evidence of how hardcore you are at shooters. Heres a clue: why not load up quake live and see if you can land triple airshots on a player flying across your screen faster than grenades fly out of tubes in mw3.

Gosh how can you bear to type what you type? I cant even post this without feeling ashamed of myself.

I like quickscoping and dragscoping. Hardscoping is for real life.

Made me laugh. You dont even know what an airshot is! Please, you arent gods gift to shooters, the world doesnt refvolve around you, and stop claiming you are superior to so called casual players. Anyone in this game is by definition casual because there are no professional leagues surrounding it. 

[Mal3fact0r]

Terraflare wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Terraflare wrote...

Hey op hardcore pro gamer, i like how you cite mw3 and bf3 as evidence of how hardcore you are at shooters. Heres a clue: why not load up quake live and see if you can land triple airshots on a player flying across your screen faster than grenades fly out of tubes in mw3.

Gosh how can you bear to type what you type? I cant even post this without feeling ashamed of myself.

I like quickscoping and dragscoping. Hardscoping is for real life.

Made me laugh. You dont even know what an airshot is! Please, you arent gods gift to shooters, the world doesnt refvolve around you, and stop claiming you are superior to so called casual players. Anyone in this game is by definition casual because there are no professional leagues surrounding it. 

^This, not to mention it's a co-op game where you fight predictable AI.

[BoomDynamite]

Ikilledkillab wrote...

BoomDynamite wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

BoomDynamite wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

BoomDynamite wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

As stated multiple tmes and by others in here....the OP infy class attracts poor players. Its the infys that cause wipes on gold the majority of my pub matches in RRG games.

It attacts noobs/silver level players into gold, when they aen't gold ready yet. That is the problem. Other than that I could care less how much/little fun you have or how fast/slow you obtain your credits. Its none of my business.

To me, this isn't a problem; If they're having fun then they're having fun. As mentioned you don't care about others enjoying their experience so I  recommend you make some friends and create private games to get the full experience out of the multiplayer experience!

That's basically saying TC won't be nerfed. YES!

Obviosuly it won't be. ME3 doesn't cater to skilled players. They want to keep casual gamers like yourself happy. But we can at least make them rethink things before the next game roles out.

Who said I was a casual gamer?

Obvsious from your comments, the least of which is you running to defend an obviously OP class at every turn. If you were any good you wouldn't be claiming this class isn't OP. That is a fact.

A full team of Biotics is VASTLY better than a full team of Infiltrators. I've played the game enough to know that. I play the Infiltrator class because I like stealth. Biotic Detonations are too easy to play all of the time for my liking. Also, my favorite class right now is the Soldier, mainly because they have so many ways to spec them. I don't always defend Infiltrators. Oh, and btw, you calling TC OP is an opinion, not a fact.

Its a fact and while a full team of biotics is good I would put a full team of SIs or GIs against anyone. 4 stacking proxy mines and claymores won't be beat even by biotics.

Also this is irrelevant becayse a fully coordinated team means you are in a private match 95% of the time. That is not part of the issue under discussion here.

I'm in Public Matches 99% of the time. It's not that hard to see if something is blue or not.

[Buckapocka]

Thomas Abram wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

As stated multiple tmes and by others in here....the OP infy class attracts poor players. Its the infys that cause wipes on gold the majority of my pub matches in RRG games.

It attacts noobs/silver level players into gold, when they aen't gold ready yet. That is the problem. Other than that I could care less how much/little fun you have or how fast/slow you obtain your credits. Its none of my business.

To me, this isn't a problem; If they're having fun then they're having fun. As mentioned you don't care about others enjoying their experience so I  recommend you make some friends and create private games to get the full experience out of the multiplayer experience!

Completely agree with you! Thanks for checking in

[BoomDynamite]

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Terraflare wrote...

Hey op hardcore pro gamer, i like how you cite mw3 and bf3 as evidence of how hardcore you are at shooters. Heres a clue: why not load up quake live and see if you can land triple airshots on a player flying across your screen faster than grenades fly out of tubes in mw3.

Gosh how can you bear to type what you type? I cant even post this without feeling ashamed of myself.

I like quickscoping and dragscoping. Hardscoping is for real life.

So sniping? I hate those little MW2 kiddies who yell at me for using an M82 like it's supposed to be used. They usually run around missing with their M200's.

[Malditor]

BoomDynamite wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Terraflare wrote...

Hey op hardcore pro gamer, i like how you cite mw3 and bf3 as evidence of how hardcore you are at shooters. Heres a clue: why not load up quake live and see if you can land triple airshots on a player flying across your screen faster than grenades fly out of tubes in mw3.

Gosh how can you bear to type what you type? I cant even post this without feeling ashamed of myself.

I like quickscoping and dragscoping. Hardscoping is for real life.

So sniping? I hate those little MW2 kiddies who yell at me for using an M82 like it's supposed to be used. They usually run around missing with their M200's.

Pretty typical that someone who quickscopes/dragscopes would feel they are better than others. Was very annoying to deal with that in CoD. OMG why did you hardscope you noob! How about, why did you take 4 shots to hit someone trying to be "L33T" instead of taking 1 aimed shot?

[Lord Chun]

Thomas Abram wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

As stated multiple tmes and by others in here....the OP infy class attracts poor players. Its the infys that cause wipes on gold the majority of my pub matches in RRG games.

It attacts noobs/silver level players into gold, when they aen't gold ready yet. That is the problem. Other than that I could care less how much/little fun you have or how fast/slow you obtain your credits. Its none of my business.

To me, this isn't a problem; If they're having fun then they're having fun. As mentioned you don't care about others enjoying their experience so I  recommend you make some friends and create private games to get the full experience out of the multiplayer experience!

But but but no ABRAM SMASH:crying:

[Thomas Abram]

Malditor wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

This is how I propose the nerf occurs....

In light of all the recent threads on this, it is quite clear that a huge number of ME3 multiplayer recognize the OP nature of infiltrators and want them nerfed for better game balance. Here is the easiest way to do it....

I see nothing of the sort, I see the same people repeatedly saying it, not a huge number of people.

I agree with Malditor. I'm curious where you're pulling these numbers Ikilledkillab? How many ME3MP players do you think post on these forums (Not read because you mentioned "recent threads on this")? How many people do you think actually play ME3MP daily? Dare I say your math has... holes

Mommy says: If you have nothing nice to say about others, don't say anything at all. This applies to BSN as well. Warning.

[Deviean]

Ouch...

[Ikilledkillab]

Thomas Abram wrote...

Malditor wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

This is how I propose the nerf occurs....

In light of all the recent threads on this, it is quite clear that a huge number of ME3 multiplayer recognize the OP nature of infiltrators and want them nerfed for better game balance. Here is the easiest way to do it....

I see nothing of the sort, I see the same people repeatedly saying it, not a huge number of people.

I agree with Malditor. I'm curious where you're pulling these numbers Ikilledkillab? How many ME3MP players do you think post on these forums (Not read because you mentioned "recent threads on this")? How many people do you think actually play ME3MP daily? Dare I say your math has... holes

Mommy says: If you have nothing nice to say about others, don't say anything at all. This applies to BSN as well. Warning.

Warning for what? How did I say anything bad about anyone in what you quoted? This has been a very hot topic here for going on two weeks now. You should know that better than me as mod, don't you have to peruse the forum regularly?

[kevchy]

ABRAM SMASH is imminent.....

[kevchy]

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Malditor wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

This is how I propose the nerf occurs....

In light of all the recent threads on this, it is quite clear that a huge number of ME3 multiplayer recognize the OP nature of infiltrators and want them nerfed for better game balance. Here is the easiest way to do it....

I see nothing of the sort, I see the same people repeatedly saying it, not a huge number of people.

I agree with Malditor. I'm curious where you're pulling these numbers Ikilledkillab? How many ME3MP players do you think post on these forums (Not read because you mentioned "recent threads on this")? How many people do you think actually play ME3MP daily? Dare I say your math has... holes

Mommy says: If you have nothing nice to say about others, don't say anything at all. This applies to BSN as well. Warning.

Warning for what? How did I say anything bad about anyone in what you quoted? This has been a very hot topic here for going on two weeks now. You should know that better than me as mod, don't you have to peruse the forum regularly?

As mentioned before, its only hot because you and a handful of others keep bringing this up pretty much everyday.

[Thomas Abram]

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Malditor wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

This is how I propose the nerf occurs....

In light of all the recent threads on this, it is quite clear that a huge number of ME3 multiplayer recognize the OP nature of infiltrators and want them nerfed for better game balance. Here is the easiest way to do it....

I see nothing of the sort, I see the same people repeatedly saying it, not a huge number of people.

I agree with Malditor. I'm curious where you're pulling these numbers Ikilledkillab? How many ME3MP players do you think post on these forums (Not read because you mentioned "recent threads on this")? How many people do you think actually play ME3MP daily? Dare I say your math has... holes

Mommy says: If you have nothing nice to say about others, don't say anything at all. This applies to BSN as well. Warning.

Warning for what? How did I say anything bad about anyone in what you quoted? This has been a very hot topic here for going on two weeks now. You should know that better than me as mod, don't you have to peruse the forum regularly?

I could go back through all of your posts and point out at least 5 different instances in this thread alone where you jabbed someone (be it directly or indirectly, generalized or specific to a person).

I don't want to ABRAM SMASH this because this is a good topic and there is some very good discussion in here but if this continues on the path of pigheaded-ness then I have no choice.

Balancing MP is very important to us and we realized that in order to maintain a high level of players both in terms of skill and variety we need to make sure each "spec" can compete in one way or another. Eric is extremely good at what he does and I feel that with each balance change we get closer to an even playing field then ever before.

As far as nerfing/buffing this/that I'm not in the loop for that kind of thing so take my posts with a grain of salt.

[Ikilledkillab]

Thomas Abram wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Malditor wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

This is how I propose the nerf occurs....

In light of all the recent threads on this, it is quite clear that a huge number of ME3 multiplayer recognize the OP nature of infiltrators and want them nerfed for better game balance. Here is the easiest way to do it....

I see nothing of the sort, I see the same people repeatedly saying it, not a huge number of people.

I agree with Malditor. I'm curious where you're pulling these numbers Ikilledkillab? How many ME3MP players do you think post on these forums (Not read because you mentioned "recent threads on this")? How many people do you think actually play ME3MP daily? Dare I say your math has... holes

Mommy says: If you have nothing nice to say about others, don't say anything at all. This applies to BSN as well. Warning.

Warning for what? How did I say anything bad about anyone in what you quoted? This has been a very hot topic here for going on two weeks now. You should know that better than me as mod, don't you have to peruse the forum regularly?

I could go back through all of your posts and point out at least 5 different instances in this thread alone where you jabbed someone (be it directly or indirectly, generalized or specific to a person).

I don't want to ABRAM SMASH this because this is a good topic and there is some very good discussion in here but if this continues on the path of pigheaded-ness then I have no choice.

Balancing MP is very important to us and we realized that in order to maintain a high level of players both in terms of skill and variety we need to make sure each "spec" can compete in one way or another. Eric is extremely good at what he does and I feel that with each balance change we get closer to an even playing field then ever before.

As far as nerfing/buffing this/that I'm not in the loop for that kind of thing so take my posts with a grain of salt.

I agree, that I may have made a few generalizations that could be construed as jabs but for the record, and though it doesn't bother me or make it right, I get smashed/jabbed in every thread I make by 5 or more people. I don't run and cry to the site administrators though. I don't feel the need to bother you over trivial nonsense.

[Striker93175]

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Striker93175 wrote...

So um... Op. Farm a FBWGG. Have 2 justicars and a novagaurd w/ a inf as loadout. Have both justicars set up warp bubbles, 1 in the main door/lobby and 1 by the stairs. Have 1 justicar behind the counter to grab/reave and the other in the back door near the ammo to toss reave and lay cover fire(shield drop fire). Have the inf stay outside behind the wall to snipe things coming down the outside main stretch and reun obj/revive. Novagaurd detonates on both bubbles and reaved targets.

Tell me if your not in #4th

So... OP. Farm a FBWGG with 3 salarian engineers w/ scorpions up top dropping decoys at landing pad at ladder and at steps down to hall way. Have engineers make a lotta lil booms with scorpion rounds all over plus popping entire groups of enemies attacking the decoys (its actually hysterical). Let inf do his thing. Tell me if your not in #4th

So OP... have 3 human engineers w/ 200% cooldown chain overload and keeping out 3 chain shock turrets --- yeah you get my point...

Certain combos of load outs make it hard for the inf, certain combos make it easier. All 3 loads above will make you very hard pressed for kills and feel like a useless backup medic/support role. Only thing you're gonna get to shoot at are the primes Point is even if that is the only role you get to play, so what? It's coop. Everyone gets the same exp/credits. Doh?

If you want cloak nerfed, use a reset power card and go 0 in cloak... and use a predator pistol as your only weapon.

I'm not the problem. Its most of you. But yes, certain setups against presets work very well but why are you not randoming the enemy unless you are farming? There is no point to me in presetting things. We get what we get and adapt our play to the faction is the funnest and ost challenging way to play.

Not really man, I play U/U/G... I also play U/U/S and U/U/B for level 1 chars if friends aren’t on.  I only used FBWGG because everyone knows the map/gameplan so its easiest reference.  You dudes (and dudettes)  calling for anything you disagree with as op nerf it all is just whack. Even if nerfed people will still find the most dmg output tactic and exploit it and truly biotics and teamwork (whoa now teamwork in a coop game?! crazy concept) are far more powerful than a cloak enemies can still see thru and kill you with.

I've played with randoms on bronze that even with a 50,000 damage bonus and god mode would still manage to lose so like... really?  Need a wood difficulty and maybe even one lower than wood like running scared from you mode.  Between nerfs and nerfs and more nerfs and enemy buffs and buffs then some steroids they are im my opinion making the game less and less fun to play.  Instead of making us shoot marshmallows at the enemy while they lob nukes at us they could fix *all* problems by simply adding a platinum difficulty where there are more enemies that do more damage and have insane health.... or.... adding a boss wave prior to extraction that must be completed to get ANY credits/exp...  Reapers in comes 6 harvisters or an actual reaper...  Cerebus in comes 3 gun ships or an ultra Atlas or hell even Kai Leng... Geth -- in roll a couple Colossus with a Prime support unit.

Sleight adjustments are one thing for tweaks and all but dude just lets be realistic cloak is the staple of the infiltrator… This isn’t pvp its co-op and its not even like bw records score or medals so what’s it matter? You have the option of gimping yourself or only playing with non-infiltrator characters. You can absolutely be the worst player alive, die and blame your teammates for being lousy, sit around and pick your nose by the ammo box… still get the creds/exp and think your gods gift to video games and sadly end up ruining it for others.

[EVILFLUFFMONSTER]

Infiltrators do not need nerfing, other classes would be a lot more useful if they did this:

http://social.biowar...325/4#12562395.