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Nerf Infiltrators...not the Krysae or Reegar...(Proof tactical cloak is broken)


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#501
Oodle12

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Ikilledkillab wrote...

THIS THREAD WORKED!!!

And how do you know Bioware wasn't looking into tactical cloak before this thread or similar ones?
Hint: You don't

#502
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Necro just to pat self on back? Really tacky dude.

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Glad BW did the right thing. I went back to COD but with better balance now I'm coming back to ME3. Gold should be fun and more team oriented now!

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Actually will be less team oriented, imho.

Previously all infiltrators had the capability to remain in stealth for twice as long, do twice as much, safely, for the team.

Now, all infiltrators must choose either duration or damage. So there will statistically be less people capable of helping out the team.

In other words, the main thing this nerf did is give Infiltrators the choice to cast off the burden of being 'the jack of all trades', and now they can truly be 'just dps, and possibly revive you if you die within 4 seconds sprint'


So if this was your goal, a job well done indeed! :)

Modifié par SkreeMalicious, 27 juin 2012 - 05:27 .


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The infiltrator nerf is not that bad (and I play almost exclusively infiltrator). With the new ammo available, I don't even notice the damage nerf (and THANK YOU SO MUCH for the change to equipment packs!)

The debuff for duration makes a lot of sense from a design standpoint, since choosing the damage bonus was a no-brainer before, and now you need to decide if you want dps or utility. For experienced players, the damage bonus will usually be taken, but on bronze or silver the extra movement you gain from 12 seconds of TC will make a lot more sense, especially for new players who need the utility to stay alive. After a few games with my SI and GI, I'm already used to the new playstyle. You just have to use cover more and use TC to reposition.

Also, the way it was, if you were taking the extra power evolution, you would probably need the extra time since 8 seconds is barely enough time to get two powers off unless you have a very light load. I don't think this change affects decision making in that scenario.

Job well done today, Bioware. Thanks!

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Ikilledkillab wrote...

Glad BW did the right thing. I went back to COD but with better balance now I'm coming back to ME3. Gold should be fun and more team oriented now!



Stopped reading.

Realized where the real problem lies.

You think COD is more balanced than Mass Effect.

:sick:

Modifié par Drummernate, 27 juin 2012 - 05:35 .


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Ikilledkillab

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SkreeMalicious wrote...

Actually will be less team oriented, imho.

Previously all infiltrators had the capability to remain in stealth for twice as long, do twice as much, safely, for the team.

Now, all infiltrators must choose either duration or damage. So there will statistically be less people capable of helping out the team.

In other words, the main thing this nerf did is give Infiltrators the choice to cast off the burden of being 'the jack of all trades', and now they can truly be 'just dps, and possibly revive you if you die within 4 seconds sprint'


So if this was your goal, a job well done indeed! :)


I'm not worried about pylons or revival.

ALL you silver level snipers will migrate back down there and the RRGs will now be amazing!

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Drummernate wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Glad BW did the right thing. I went back to COD but with better balance now I'm coming back to ME3. Gold should be fun and more team oriented now!



Stopped reading.

Realized where the real problem lies.

:sick:


Best selling and most widely played game franchise in the world and you take pot shots at it?

Good luck with that. There is a reason it sells so well and is the hottest multiplayer game in the world.

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Ikilledkillab...

I'm not worried about pylons or revival.

ALL you silver level snipers will migrate back down there and the RRGs will now be amazing!


Wow man it's really all about you huh.

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Ikilledkillab wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Glad BW did the right thing. I went back to COD but with better balance now I'm coming back to ME3. Gold should be fun and more team oriented now!



Stopped reading.

Realized where the real problem lies.

:sick:


Best selling and most widely played game franchise in the world and you take pot shots at it?

Good luck with that. There is a reason it sells so well and is the hottest multiplayer game in the world.


Yes there is a reason,  people are followers and desperate to seem hip.  COD has been stale for years.  

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BoomDynamite wrote...

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#512
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Ikilledkillab wrote...

Best selling and most widely played game franchise in the world and you take pot shots at it?

Good luck with that. There is a reason it sells so well and is the hottest multiplayer game in the world.


Sorry... wrong.

Mario/Super Mario is the best selling franchise in the world.

Call of Duty is only popular because every single 12 year old kid who T-bags everything in the digital world plays it.

There are lots of 12 year old kids in this world.

Modifié par Drummernate, 27 juin 2012 - 05:44 .


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Ikilledkillab wrote...

SkreeMalicious wrote...

Actually will be less team oriented, imho.

Previously all infiltrators had the capability to remain in stealth for twice as long, do twice as much, safely, for the team.

Now, all infiltrators must choose either duration or damage. So there will statistically be less people capable of helping out the team.

In other words, the main thing this nerf did is give Infiltrators the choice to cast off the burden of being 'the jack of all trades', and now they can truly be 'just dps, and possibly revive you if you die within 4 seconds sprint'


So if this was your goal, a job well done indeed! :)


I'm not worried about pylons or revival.

ALL you silver level snipers will migrate back down there and the RRGs will now be amazing!


Silver? Sniper???
Pardon me, but I am a Card-Carrying RRG SI Krysae AOE-DPS Phenomenon. You havent seen the kills i can steal from you.

See that crowd of enemies that havent rounded the corner yet? They are now all dead. I didnt need to see them. I could hear them. 
If you are lucky you might get to see a squirt of ravioli shoot out from behind that piece of cover, that was the enemy you just spotted.

And that Phantom that is doing ballet around you and you have your back to the wall? Dont worry, ill save you. NP. Extra Spicey Ragu in 2 shots

And that group of 3 phantoms closing in? NP. AOE energy drain, 2 shots, Those three phantoms are now Large quantities of Gooey Spaghetti Sauce.

I rub my hands together with anticipation at the chance to show you just how little sniping I do in my day to day. 
Its all about the high explosive airburst! 
... and topping the charts
... and putting in work.

someday I might even get Sniper Amp II and Krysae IV and then it will get interesting!

#514
Ikilledkillab

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Bigjosh951 wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Glad BW did the right thing. I went back to COD but with better balance now I'm coming back to ME3. Gold should be fun and more team oriented now!



Stopped reading.

Realized where the real problem lies.

:sick:


Best selling and most widely played game franchise in the world and you take pot shots at it?

Good luck with that. There is a reason it sells so well and is the hottest multiplayer game in the world.


Yes there is a reason,  people are followers and desperate to seem hip.  COD has been stale for years.  


sales and number of gamers have been increasing for years.

They are not going to change the main mechanics of the game.We like them and that i why we play it.

Mw2, Blops and MW3 were amazing.

BLOPS2 will be insane BASED ON ZOMBIES ALONE.

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Drummernate wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Best selling and most widely played game franchise in the world and you take pot shots at it?

Good luck with that. There is a reason it sells so well and is the hottest multiplayer game in the world.


Sorry... wrong.

Mario/Super Mario is the best selling franchise in the world.

Call of Duty is only popular because every single 12 year old kid who T-bags everything in the digital world plays it.

There are lots of 12 year old kids in this world.


Mario been out for 20 years.
Join the now bro. COD rapes everything and brings in the $$$

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Meh, still kicking as much ass and topping on the score chart (not like that's significant or anything, but some ppl take the score seriously) when I play on gold.

A lot of things can still die in 4 seconds

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Ikilledkillab, this nerf didn't do anything other than spite infiltrators to use damage-based builds. I can already see you making another rage-thread about Infiltrators and some other "problem" with the class because you will still be getting outscored.
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Vitalik1993 wrote...

Ikilledkillab, this nerf didn't do anything other than spite infiltrators to use damage-based builds. I can already see you making another rage-thread about Infiltrators and some other "problem" with the class because you will still be getting outscored.
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dropped some damage and makes you choose cloak or damage which means you have to play smarter and better.

#519
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Ikilledkillab wrote...
blah-blah-blah

Isn't it yet another infiltrators-hating thread?
Create private game w/ infiltrator-hating players, kick everyone that disagrees, that's it.

Ikilledkillab wrote...
dropped some damage and makes you choose cloak or damage which means you have to play smarter and better.


Also i think it's not your business. Once again - play w/ infiltrator-haters, private lobbies and stuff. Who do you think you are to tell everyone else how to play huh?

Hint: no one, so would you stop raging and just let people to have some fun?

Modifié par nhb_, 27 juin 2012 - 06:08 .


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Now that all of the babies got the nerf, how about fixing all of the actual broken aspects of tactical cloak, like cloak going on and off or shots doing no damage or having three bullets in a clip but only getting two shots. Those are just off the top of my head.

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Ikilledkillab wrote...

Bigjosh951 wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Glad BW did the right thing. I went back to COD but with better balance now I'm coming back to ME3. Gold should be fun and more team oriented now!



Stopped reading.

Realized where the real problem lies.

:sick:


Best selling and most widely played game franchise in the world and you take pot shots at it?

Good luck with that. There is a reason it sells so well and is the hottest multiplayer game in the world.


Yes there is a reason,  people are followers and desperate to seem hip.  COD has been stale for years.  


sales and number of gamers have been increasing for years.

They are not going to change the main mechanics of the game.We like them and that i why we play it.

Mw2, Blops and MW3 were amazing.

BLOPS2 will be insane BASED ON ZOMBIES ALONE.


Lets ignore the fact that we now live in a world where parents let their children's video game systems do the raising and nurturing for them.  Where it's apparently alright for kids to drop the N-bomb all throughout a game over the mic, and call everyone else a (insert homophobic insult here), and we still have to play nice on these types of forums that are for M-rated games.......

Sometimes I don't want to live on this planet anymore.<_<

#522
Ikilledkillab

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ol MISAKA lo wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Bigjosh951 wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Glad BW did the right thing. I went back to COD but with better balance now I'm coming back to ME3. Gold should be fun and more team oriented now!



Stopped reading.

Realized where the real problem lies.

:sick:


Best selling and most widely played game franchise in the world and you take pot shots at it?

Good luck with that. There is a reason it sells so well and is the hottest multiplayer game in the world.


Yes there is a reason,  people are followers and desperate to seem hip.  COD has been stale for years.  


sales and number of gamers have been increasing for years.

They are not going to change the main mechanics of the game.We like them and that i why we play it.

Mw2, Blops and MW3 were amazing.

BLOPS2 will be insane BASED ON ZOMBIES ALONE.


Lets ignore the fact that we now live in a world where parents let their children's video game systems do the raising and nurturing for them.  Where it's apparently alright for kids to drop the N-bomb all throughout a game over the mic, and call everyone else a (insert homophobic insult here), and we still have to play nice on these types of forums that are for M-rated games.......

Sometimes I don't want to live on this planet anymore.<_<


It is amazing how people act on the internet compared to IRL.