Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...
Good Adepts rule speed runs.
The common adepts die quite a bit on gold or have to be careful. Where as the infilly can avoid 90% of all danger with cloak
Ikilledkillab wrote...
That is as petty a reason for saying a class needs to be nerfed as the assertion that one only cares about credits.
Its a co-op game. I can top the board easily as an infiltrator. Do you want me to liter this with 20 screenshots of me topping gold as an infiltrator? The fact is, as others say, infiltrators always top the leaderboard becase the class itself is overpowered.
And as others pointed out, you find 2 or more infiltrators in so many gold lobbies it is ridiculous. Goin into a room with multiple infiltrators is like going into FBWGG. You don't want either when searching for RRG games but infortunately, the class is OP and people that should realy be playing silver still are using it to play gold.
OblivionDawn wrote...
Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...
OblivionDawn wrote...
I'm laughing because it hasn't happened all this time, and it's never going to happen.
Bioware knows that reducing the game to a biotic pitching fest (which is what would result) would kill it.
Atleast a Biotic pitching fest would include 3 classes and diverse weaponry rather than the current cloak fest that is only 1 class choice and 1 weapon type choice.
Literally every random game i play on the 360 has atleast 2 infillies it's silly.
Not surprising. Some people like to aim guns in a shooting game, instead of having the game aim biotic powers for them.
Byronic-Knight wrote...
Ikilledkillab wrote...
That is as petty a reason for saying a class needs to be nerfed as the assertion that one only cares about credits.
Its a co-op game. I can top the board easily as an infiltrator. Do you want me to liter this with 20 screenshots of me topping gold as an infiltrator? The fact is, as others say, infiltrators always top the leaderboard becase the class itself is overpowered.
And as others pointed out, you find 2 or more infiltrators in so many gold lobbies it is ridiculous. Goin into a room with multiple infiltrators is like going into FBWGG. You don't want either when searching for RRG games but infortunately, the class is OP and people that should realy be playing silver still are using it to play gold.
So your entire problem with the class is that it’s keeping you from both playing as a class other than Infiltrator and being at the top of the leaderboard?
If your stated purpose of wanting to play a game for fun, why---in a co-op game laid out in such a manner that the person at the top of the leaderboard receives the same rewards as the one at the bottom---would your placement on said leaderboard affect your ability to enjoy playing the game (not staring at the transitionary screen between matches).
Byronic-Knight wrote...
Ikilledkillab wrote...
That is as petty a reason for saying a class needs to be nerfed as the assertion that one only cares about credits.
Its a co-op game. I can top the board easily as an infiltrator. Do you want me to liter this with 20 screenshots of me topping gold as an infiltrator? The fact is, as others say, infiltrators always top the leaderboard becase the class itself is overpowered.
And as others pointed out, you find 2 or more infiltrators in so many gold lobbies it is ridiculous. Goin into a room with multiple infiltrators is like going into FBWGG. You don't want either when searching for RRG games but infortunately, the class is OP and people that should realy be playing silver still are using it to play gold.
So your entire problem with the class is that it’s keeping you from both playing as a class other than Infiltrator and being at the top of the leaderboard?
If your stated purpose of wanting to play a game for fun, why---in a co-op game laid out in such a manner that the person at the top of the leaderboard receives the same rewards as the one at the bottom---would your placement on said leaderboard affect your ability to enjoy playing the game (not staring at the transitionary screen between matches).
ParadoxFaet wrote...
OblivionDawn wrote...
Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...
OblivionDawn wrote...
I'm laughing because it hasn't happened all this time, and it's never going to happen.
Bioware knows that reducing the game to a biotic pitching fest (which is what would result) would kill it.
Atleast a Biotic pitching fest would include 3 classes and diverse weaponry rather than the current cloak fest that is only 1 class choice and 1 weapon type choice.
Literally every random game i play on the 360 has atleast 2 infillies it's silly.
Not surprising. Some people like to aim guns in a shooting game, instead of having the game aim biotic powers for them.
That's a fallacy of false dilemma and a personal attack all rolled up into one. And I think you're forgetting about the Krysae. Aiming my ass.
Ikilledkillab wrote...
Fact: Tactical cloak is broken:
Evidence 1: Reload glitch. You don't have to reload the weapon, you start a reload and cloak and it cancels the reload but your weapon is reloaded.
Evidence 2: No matter how heavy your weapons are, if you cloak, fire a power (e.g. proxy mine) then shoot at an enemy your cooldown speed is always three seconds.
Evidence 3: Even though the sixth option of tactical cloak allows you to fire a power and remain cloaked the cloak damage bonus applies even if you fire a proxy mine and then a couple of shots. Instead of breaking your cloak and losing the cloak bonus. your proxy mine and the few rounds you put out get the damage buff.
Evidence 4: The Geth Infiltrator gets a 80% cloak damage donus for sniper rifles, a 25% hunter mode bonus and a 22.5 Netowrke Ai bonus, that means your weapon does 227.5% damage. That is a huge bonus. Even the salarian infiltrator maxes out at over 200%.
Evidence 5: In most normal settings, infiltrators top the leaderboard. This is due to the class being overpowered and broken. That is also why it is so heavily played.
Pleae fix the reload exploit/glitch, please fix the cloak allowing users to get damage bonuses on a power and weapons and please remove the extra 40% sniping bonus in tree 6. The 40% damage buff in tree 4 should be moved to tree 6. A 40% damage buff, the ability to cloak and revive teammates, hide from enemies and perform objectives is more than enough for that power.
Please nerf the tactical cloak bioware. We need better balance in multiplayer and that would be the best way to start.
Ikilledkillab wrote...
Byronic-Knight wrote...
Ikilledkillab wrote...
That is as petty a reason for saying a class needs to be nerfed as the assertion that one only cares about credits.
Its a co-op game. I can top the board easily as an infiltrator. Do you want me to liter this with 20 screenshots of me topping gold as an infiltrator? The fact is, as others say, infiltrators always top the leaderboard becase the class itself is overpowered.
And as others pointed out, you find 2 or more infiltrators in so many gold lobbies it is ridiculous. Goin into a room with multiple infiltrators is like going into FBWGG. You don't want either when searching for RRG games but infortunately, the class is OP and people that should realy be playing silver still are using it to play gold.
So your entire problem with the class is that it’s keeping you from both playing as a class other than Infiltrator and being at the top of the leaderboard?
If your stated purpose of wanting to play a game for fun, why---in a co-op game laid out in such a manner that the person at the top of the leaderboard receives the same rewards as the one at the bottom---would your placement on said leaderboard affect your ability to enjoy playing the game (not staring at the transitionary screen between matches).
No, I am saying because the infiltrator tops the leaderboard in most lobbies it is clearly evidence that it is overpowered. What is so hard for you to undertand here about this? Its common sense.
Modifié par usctrojanbulldog, 04 juin 2012 - 03:11 .
Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...
@Byronic
Some of us play for a reason beyond mere addiction and actually enjoy the game for a reason other than to grind for better gear so we can grind for more gear faster.
Oh, fallacies? They're the newest thing. You should read up on them before you make yourself look foolish. Again.OblivionDawn wrote...
ParadoxFaet wrote...
OblivionDawn wrote...
Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...
OblivionDawn wrote...
I'm laughing because it hasn't happened all this time, and it's never going to happen.
Bioware knows that reducing the game to a biotic pitching fest (which is what would result) would kill it.
Atleast a Biotic pitching fest would include 3 classes and diverse weaponry rather than the current cloak fest that is only 1 class choice and 1 weapon type choice.
Literally every random game i play on the 360 has atleast 2 infillies it's silly.
Not surprising. Some people like to aim guns in a shooting game, instead of having the game aim biotic powers for them.
That's a fallacy of false dilemma and a personal attack all rolled up into one. And I think you're forgetting about the Krysae. Aiming my ass.
Implying that every Infiltrator uses the Krysae, or that people didn't complain about the Infiltrator class before the Krysae was released.
What was that about fallacies?
usctrojanbulldog wrote...
Byronic-Knight wrote...
Ikilledkillab wrote...
That is as petty a reason for saying a class needs to be nerfed as the assertion that one only cares about credits.
Its a co-op game. I can top the board easily as an infiltrator. Do you want me to liter this with 20 screenshots of me topping gold as an infiltrator? The fact is, as others say, infiltrators always top the leaderboard becase the class itself is overpowered.
And as others pointed out, you find 2 or more infiltrators in so many gold lobbies it is ridiculous. Goin into a room with multiple infiltrators is like going into FBWGG. You don't want either when searching for RRG games but infortunately, the class is OP and people that should realy be playing silver still are using it to play gold.
So your entire problem with the class is that it’s keeping you from both playing as a class other than Infiltrator and being at the top of the leaderboard?
If your stated purpose of wanting to play a game for fun, why---in a co-op game laid out in such a manner that the person at the top of the leaderboard receives the same rewards as the one at the bottom---would your placement on said leaderboard affect your ability to enjoy playing the game (not staring at the transitionary screen between matches).
Personally, I think his issue is with scoring. He doesn't like "losing" in score. He also can't play an infiltrator as well as other players so he cries his eyes out for a nerf. However, he will tell you it takes tremendous skill to sit behind cover and detonate biotics for the entire match.
Modifié par Master Xanthan, 04 juin 2012 - 03:12 .
Ikilledkillab wrote...
Fact: Tactical cloak is broken:
Evidence 1: Reload glitch. You don't have to reload the weapon, you start a reload and cloak and it cancels the reload but your weapon is reloaded.
Evidence 2: No matter how heavy your weapons are, if you cloak, fire a power (e.g. proxy mine) then shoot at an enemy your cooldown speed is always three seconds.
Evidence 3: Even though the sixth option of tactical cloak allows you to fire a power and remain cloaked the cloak damage bonus applies even if you fire a proxy mine and then a couple of shots. Instead of breaking your cloak and losing the cloak bonus. your proxy mine and the few rounds you put out get the damage buff.
Evidence 4: The Geth Infiltrator gets a 80% cloak damage donus for sniper rifles, a 25% hunter mode bonus and a 22.5 Netowrke Ai bonus, that means your weapon does 227.5% damage. That is a huge bonus. Even the salarian infiltrator maxes out at over 200%.
Evidence 5: In most normal settings, infiltrators top the leaderboard. This is due to the class being overpowered and broken. That is also why it is so heavily played.
Pleae fix the reload exploit/glitch, please fix the cloak allowing users to get damage bonuses on a power and weapons and please remove the extra 40% sniping bonus in tree 6. The 40% damage buff in tree 4 should be moved to tree 6. A 40% damage buff, the ability to cloak and revive teammates, hide from enemies and perform objectives is more than enough for that power.
Please nerf the tactical cloak bioware. We need better balance in multiplayer and that would be the best way to start.
Ikilledkillab wrote...
Arkley wrote...
rmccowen wrote...
...trolling?
Also, I'm starting to think someone needs to run a seminar for BSN about what constitutes "proof".
So damn true. No on on this entire forum knows the difference between "proof" and "evidence". God help us if they ever sit on a f*cking jury.
My evidences constitue proof.
Ikilledkillab wrote...
No, I am saying because the infiltrator tops the leaderboard in most lobbies it is clearly evidence that it is overpowered. What is so hard for you to undertand here about this? Its common sense.
ParadoxFaet wrote...
Oh, fallacies? They're the newest thing. You should read up on them before you make yourself look foolish. Again.OblivionDawn wrote...
ParadoxFaet wrote...
OblivionDawn wrote...
Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...
OblivionDawn wrote...
I'm laughing because it hasn't happened all this time, and it's never going to happen.
Bioware knows that reducing the game to a biotic pitching fest (which is what would result) would kill it.
Atleast a Biotic pitching fest would include 3 classes and diverse weaponry rather than the current cloak fest that is only 1 class choice and 1 weapon type choice.
Literally every random game i play on the 360 has atleast 2 infillies it's silly.
Not surprising. Some people like to aim guns in a shooting game, instead of having the game aim biotic powers for them.
That's a fallacy of false dilemma and a personal attack all rolled up into one. And I think you're forgetting about the Krysae. Aiming my ass.
Implying that every Infiltrator uses the Krysae, or that people didn't complain about the Infiltrator class before the Krysae was released.
What was that about fallacies?
usctrojanbulldog wrote...
Byronic-Knight wrote...
Ikilledkillab wrote...
Its a co-op game. I can top the board easily as an infiltrator. Do you want me to liter this with 20 screenshots of me topping gold as an infiltrator? The fact is, as others say, infiltrators always top the leaderboard becase the class itself is overpowered.
And as others pointed out, you find 2 or more infiltrators in so many gold lobbies it is ridiculous. Goin into a room with multiple infiltrators is like going into FBWGG. You don't want either when searching for RRG games but infortunately, the class is OP and people that should realy be playing silver still are using it to play gold.
So your entire problem with the class is that it’s keeping you from both playing as a class other than Infiltrator and being at the top of the leaderboard?
If your stated purpose of wanting to play a game for fun, why---in a co-op game laid out in such a manner that the person at the top of the leaderboard receives the same rewards as the one at the bottom---would your placement on said leaderboard affect your ability to enjoy playing the game (not staring at the transitionary screen between matches).
Personally, I think his issue is with scoring. He doesn't like "losing" in score. He also can't play an infiltrator as well as other players so he cries his eyes out for a nerf. However, he will tell you it takes tremendous skill to sit behind cover and detonate biotics for the entire match.
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FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!OblivionDawn wrote...
ParadoxFaet wrote...
Oh, fallacies? They're the newest thing. You should read up on them before you make yourself look foolish. Again.OblivionDawn wrote...
Implying that every Infiltrator uses the Krysae, or that people didn't complain about the Infiltrator class before the Krysae was released.
What was that about fallacies?
Sounds like you should do the same.
Xx_Belzak_xX wrote...
Can Infiltrators perform biotic explosions? No?
Tech Bursts by themselves? No?
Cryo Explosions by themselves? No? (Cept Maybe Human Infils tho....)
Fire Explosions by themselves? No?
I rest my case. Just because you got rofl-pwned by a certain class on the scoreboard doesn't mean it needs to be nerfed. Oh wait, yes it does.
Ikilledkillab wrote...
That is as petty a reason for saying a class needs to be nerfed as the assertion that one only cares about credits.
Its a co-op game. I can top the board easily as an infiltrator. Do you want me to liter this with 20 screenshots of me topping gold as an infiltrator? The fact is, as others say, infiltrators always top the leaderboard becase the class itself is overpowered.
And as others pointed out, you find 2 or more infiltrators in so many gold lobbies it is ridiculous. Goin into a room with multiple infiltrators is like going into FBWGG. You don't want either when searching for RRG games but infortunately, the class is OP and people that should realy be playing silver still are using it to play gold.
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