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[spudspot]

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Same on ps3 and 90% of them belong in silver games still. Just hacks using an overpowered clas but whn things get heavy they fold under the pressure because they shouldn't be in gold lobbies to begin with.

And there we go again. Honestly, if they can't bear their own weight with an OP class, would you really be happier if they joined with a Drell Adept? (which already had a pretty insane damage potential before the bonus grenades) 

Ikilledkillab wrote...

No, I am saying because the infiltrator tops the leaderboard in most lobbies it is clearly evidence that it is overpowered. What is so hard for you to undertand here about this? Its common sense.

But the class is designed to do that. Quarian Engineer: Not so much. So if I take a GI and finished last, I know I've done something wrong. If I take the Quarian Engineer and don't outscore everybody, I still might have done my job pretty well.

You know what is funny? Its actually people like you that "force" players to play Infiltrators because you spread the word that high score = well done. At least your countless bragging threads are an evidence for that.

So please don't complain when people stop playing classes that can be very vital to the team without scoring 100k+.

Also - and that one really aches me - score is a result of a game mechanic counting how much you contributed. If they gave you one 1k per successful use of "Overload", would you consider the Human Engineer OP? 

I just can't shake off the feeling that your whining is solely based on score. I mean your beloved Adepts can clear out entire spawns on gold in ~3 seconds, they don't kill particularly slower than Infiltrators, just to mention it. 

Modifié par spudspot, 04 juin 2012 - 07:21 .

[Adhok42]

Dear Bioware. OP is broke. Nerf him.

Evidence he is broken.

1. Claims to boot "ANY" Infiltrator that enters his game despite posting evidence he regularly plays with them. Melee Infiltrators count under the clause "ANY".

2. Regularly posts his high scores breaking 150K on FBWGG.

3. Make me jealous of his "1337" skills.

4. Is "Boss" enough to only play Gold difficulty with just his tongue as he has frequently claimed.

5. Is filled with more Whine then a Winery.

6. Needs more Desu.

He is OP and clearly needs to be Nerfed immediately. I beg you Bioware, fulfill my urgent and annoying cries.

[greghorvath]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

I don't think he's broken the rules?

Report him if you see something and he will be. 


But i warn you anti infilly propaganda is tolerated

spamming is not.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

greghorvath wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

I don't think he's broken the rules?

Report him if you see something and he will be. 


But i warn you anti infilly propaganda is tolerated

spamming is not.

I don't think what he is doing constitutes spamming 

[thesnake777]

....NO OP..NO

Signed with Love.
An Infiltrator.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

thesnake777 wrote...

....NO OP..NO

Signed with Love.
An Infiltrator.

Infillies do not feel emotion.

Your signature is a lie. 

[Shiroshibal]

Upon reading the word "Proof" I was hoping for some super awesome gameplay on Gold where you like are last survivor on a Gold match headshotting and proximity mining ALL the banshees and you're like way ahead of all your team with like 250000 score breaking all records and stuff and yeah

nope.

and also on your suggestions on nerfing it? nope.

[thesnake777]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

thesnake777 wrote...

....NO OP..NO

Signed with Love.
An Infiltrator.

Infillies do not feel emotion.

Your signature is a lie. 

*shhhhh* 
They dont know that

[FreeshootXiggy]

I'm beginning to think we need pvp so that the "omg nerf infiltrators" have a real reason to **** about all the OP'ness. Better yet, merge this multiplayer with CoD and let the **** fit begin.

[spudspot]

FreeshootXiggy wrote...

I'm beginning to think we need pvp so that the "omg nerf infiltrators" have a real reason to **** about all the OP'ness.

As long as I can cast Stasis on you, I'll be fine. 

[Kronner]

lol

[lordshenlong]

defleshing wrote...

real gold players have friends list and are not in public lobbies.

Indeed, i haven't touched a public since i made our group. I can't exactly say wether it's true or false that there's so many infiltrators in every game, in our games it's usually more balanced, tho sometimes we do have 2 infiltrators, hell sometimes we don't have any!

Ithink it depends on who you're playing with really. (and unfortunatly what platform you're on)

[mpompeo27]

Sacrificial Bias wrote...

Ikilledkillab wrote...

Fact: Tactical cloak is broken:

Evidence 1: Reload glitch. You don't have to reload the weapon, you start a reload and cloak and it cancels the reload but your weapon is reloaded.

Evidence 2: No matter how heavy your weapons are, if you cloak, fire a power (e.g. proxy mine) then shoot at an enemy your cooldown speed is always three seconds.

Evidence 3: Even though the sixth option of tactical cloak allows you to fire a power and remain cloaked the cloak damage bonus applies even if you fire a proxy mine and then a couple of shots. Instead of breaking your cloak and losing the cloak bonus. your proxy mine and the few rounds you put out get the damage buff.

Evidence 4: The Geth Infiltrator gets a 80% cloak damage donus for sniper rifles, a 25% hunter mode bonus and a 22.5 Netowrke Ai bonus, that means your weapon does  227.5% damage. That is a huge bonus. Even the salarian infiltrator maxes out at over 200%.

Evidence 5: In most normal settings, infiltrators top the leaderboard. This is due to the class being overpowered and broken. That is also why it is so heavily played.

Pleae fix the reload exploit/glitch, please fix the cloak allowing users to get damage bonuses on a power and weapons and please remove the extra 40% sniping bonus in tree 6. The 40% damage buff in tree 4 should be moved to tree 6.  A 40% damage buff, the ability to cloak and revive teammates, hide from enemies and perform objectives is more than enough for that power.

Please nerf the tactical cloak bioware. We need better balance in multiplayer and that would be the best way to start.

5) In my last several Bronze/Silver/Gold games, I have managed to outscore everybody, Infiltrators included, with my Vorcha Sentinel.  AoE damage + little downtime from taking cover > Single target pwnage.  The only exception would be anyone with a Krysae sniper, not just Infiltrators.  That gun does almost twice the damage per shot as the Falcon with roughly the same blast radius, how is that not overpowered?

This. I regularly outperform random Infiltrators with my Vorcha. Not true as much for the infiltrators on my friends list, but that's only a reflection of their skill and not of the class as a whole. Infiltrators are fine, and this is coming from someone who rarely plays infiltrators. I like it when I'm playing an engineer, strip an enemy's shields w/ overload, and an infiltrator immediately takes their head off (that's actually good teamwork). Leave them alone. No more nerf threads.

Modifié par mpompeo27, 04 juin 2012 - 07:49 .

[smokesheller87]

It's a Co-Op game nuff said

[ol MISAKA lo]

All you INF h8ters are going to give me cancer. That or an ulcer...

[megabeast37215]

No one listen to the OP. He is a confirmed troll, he hates all Infiltrators unless they use shotguns.

This troll actually started a thread saying "I kick every Infiltrator with a Sniper rifle from my lobbies".

He is a pure troll through and through. Don't feed him, let him starve or get himself banned again. He wants to turn ME3 into CoD where the only difference anyone has from anyone else is the shape of their gun.

[Byronic-Knight]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Byronic-Knight wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

@Byronic

Some of us play for a reason beyond mere addiction and actually enjoy the game for a reason other than to grind for better gear so we can grind for more gear faster.

And how is a teammate’s ability to do some crazy amount of damage (which is presumed to be beneficial to the entire team) affect your ability to do that? 

I mean, I could just as well complain about Vanguards, and demand their biotic charge should be taken out because everytime I start shooting at someone here comes one of those speed freaks to wreak all sorts of havok on a target I had scoped in. 

But do I complain? Well, yes, sometimes, because I wanted to make that guy’s head explode. 

But do I think their abilities should be removed or reduced in effectiveness? No, because at the end of the day, there is always some other bot that needs a bullet between the eyes (that a Vanguard hasn’t seen yet).

Let me point to my original example

If Bioware adds a class that instantly wins everygame and makes every game easy as hell how am i supposed to enjoy the challenge of gold and how am i supposed to avoid them when 80% of the player base plays them on gold? 
How will nerfing infilly damage hurt your ability to farm credits? FBWGG can be done with a lvl 1 drell VG equipped with the rec and locust

a) I actually don’t play on Gold, mostly because I see MP as a distraction, time-waster, or side-course to the SP. As such, I don’t have a desire to ‘farm credits. 

if it’s that big of a problem, why don’t you beg BW to buff the other classes, or buff the enemies in Gold?

[greghorvath]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...
I don't think what he is doing constitutes spamming 

Quoting the rules of conduct (although this is ott-topic, so I am risking being spam):

5. No Spam. Spamming can be defined as posting multiple times about the same thing, starting multiple topics about the same thing, posting off-topic posts in other people’s discussion threads or topics, or providing links that have nothing to do with the forum, topic or subject at hand, or taking existing discussions off of intended topic. Spam
will be deleted without warning. Posting single images or animated .gifs instead of discussion is considered spam and is not wanted here. What constitutes Spam is up to the discretion of staff and moderators.

Modifié par greghorvath, 04 juin 2012 - 08:21 .

[NOO3TASTIC]

@OP
What are you going to whine about next? Nerf biotic explosions???

[megabeast37215]

On a side note, everytime I hear someone utter the word 'infilly' ... ... I just want to slap somebody. It's like listening to my 10 year old and his friends using the word 'jelly' instead of 'jealous'. It's not even cool slang, it's like.... super lame pokemon slang or something.

[Xx_Belzak_xX]

Wolfsbladex wrote...

Xx_Belzak_xX wrote...

Can Infiltrators perform biotic explosions? No?
Tech Bursts by themselves? No?
Cryo Explosions by themselves? No? (Cept Maybe Human Infils tho....)
Fire Explosions by themselves? No?

I rest my case. Just because you got rofl-pwned by a certain class on the scoreboard doesn't mean it needs to be nerfed. Oh wait, yes it does.

1. They're not biotic fool. They're Tech. 

2. -Energy Drain -> Prox mine (Salarian)
-Sabotage -> Sticky Grenade (Quarian)

3. -Cryo blast -> Sticky Grenade (Human)

4. They're an Infiltrator not "I can do everything an Engineer does AND a Soldier too!!!". But really though, take a moment to think if they did have Incinerate. Please. 

You rest your case in stupidity, mook. I can see why you're too blind to see everything you can do because you're held down by one skill that binds people to singleminded ignorance. 

http://masseffect.wi...ki/Power_Combos - (A list of all power combos)

(bonus)
-*Geth problem already listed*
-Arc Grenade -> T-cloak: A Power to negate all sheilding in a large area (nullifying Sheild-gate mechanics) in addition to imbalanced damage. (Quarian Male). 

I'm sure you fail to see the irony here. The ignorant one here is you; only knuckle-dragging sub-humans use insults to back up their arguments. I'm also well aware that Infiltraotrs aren't biotic users. That was the point. You'll excuse me for not knowing every possible power combination off the top of my head, because y'know, I have a life outside of video games. God forbid.

Infiltrators are Mass Effects Assassin/Rogue type characters. Last time I checked, assassins and rogues were usually good at making things dead. Any character can seem overpowered in the hands of a skilled player. Just because you got outscored by an infiltrator doesn't mean they're overpowered. I will agree however, that Geth and Quarian Male Infiltrators are a bit on the OP side. Although I do feel that Tac Cloak is a bit OP, having a cooldown that is only as long as you have cloak up. It should have a standard cooldown like every other power in the game.

For future reference, resorting to insults drastically reduces your credibility and only makes you look like an ass.

Modifié par Xx_Belzak_xX, 04 juin 2012 - 09:47 .

[Minic78]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

All 3 need a small nerf

Reegar needs an Armor damage nerf

Kyrsae needs to become an AR

Infilly needs to get reduced cloak sniper damage or make it so only 1 shot gets the bonus rather than how ever many you can fit into a 1.5 sec period of time.


The infilly population is silly on gold there's at least 2 in every match. That should tell you something.

People are biased towards a single class?

Well that's fracking always going to happen. Even if they weren't relatively OP, it would make sense to me that they're the most popular, even on the highest difficulty. Isn't it always like that with the stealth/ninja/sniper class in a multiplayer game? If you've ever played a public game of TF2 since it went F2P, it's a lot like that: spies and snipers, goddamn everywhere.

Modifié par Minic78, 04 juin 2012 - 09:54 .

[Bergioynn]

megabeast37215 wrote...

No one listen to the OP. He is a confirmed troll, he hates all Infiltrators unless they use shotguns.

This troll actually started a thread saying "I kick every Infiltrator with a Sniper rifle from my lobbies".

He is a pure troll through and through. Don't feed him, let him starve or get himself banned again. He wants to turn ME3 into CoD where the only difference anyone has from anyone else is the shape of their gun.

+1

[RukiaKuchki]

No nerfing please.

[Mad Scientist]

Ikilledblahblah, buddy, you seriously need to stop making these rdidiculously hypocritical flamebait posts. Play the game and let others play how they want. OT - yes, TC is broken because it randomly breaks 1-2 seconds after being activated (pun intended).