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[djspectre]

Upon re-reading the codex entries, the events of mass effect 1 and the mass effect wiki entry on the citadel, I've concluded that there is another Citadel-class space station in dark space.

Since mass relays only connect to other mass relays, which all resemble each other, it's safe to assume that there is another Citadel to be the matching twin of the current one.

Further, since it's unknown exactly how the Citadel we know was transported to Earth (was it dragged to an existing relay, could an existing relay even transport something that big, can the citadel transport itself), it's safe to assume that the feat could be duplicated with the twin citadel in dark space.

Why does this matter?

Because it leaves open a great opportunity for a really unique DLC or for a continuation of the franchise in some form. 

Either way, I think the prospect of it existing is a fascinating one. 

[arial]

very interesting theory, never thought about it like that.

Good job OP

[DanielsMind]

wow never thought of it that way.

[wantedman dan]

Huh. Interesting theory.

I wonder if there would be another Citadel, a replica of sorts, or if it would just be a big f*cking mass relay from the innards of the Citadel.

[tekkaman fear]

Interesting indeed. Sadly that could mean the existence of another Star Bastard.

[arial]

and assuming both Citadels work as a pair, it would explain why we never see any other relay attach to the Citadel.

(don't say the Conduit on Ilos, it was attached to the Relay statue in the presidium).

[RuthlessGravity]

This other Citadel is the last Halo ring. WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Halo 4 - Mass Effect 3. It. All. Makes. Sense. Lock n' load, I smell war.

[Reign Tsumiraki]

I came to this conclusion a while back, during ME2. My friends and I conversed on the topic of what was going to be in ME3 a year before it came out.

One of us brought up that the Citadel Relay has to link to another relay. The relays can only push, not pull. Therefore, we thought that there was some sort of "Supercitadel" that all the nearby galaxies link to, and that's where the Reapers hibernate. 

We then postulated that it would be possible to link the Citadel Relay to the other Citadels in other galaxies. We thought that ME3 would not only be a fight between our galaxy and the reapers, but the other nearby galaxies as well. We imagined that refugees could flee to the other Citadels and Galaxies, and that we could use them for resources and reinforcements from the other species that exist in those galaxies. The Reapers, not used to this, would not be able to be everywhere at once. They'd have to either focus on one area, allowing the rest of civlization to expand, build, and recuperate, or risk spreading their forces thin over a large area.

Sadly, we were horribly mistaken. 

The thing about the ending that gets me, is that what if there's other reapers not in our galaxy? There's probably multiple Reaping forces all throughout the universe. If they get wind of what happened in the Milky way, they'll likely divert A LOT more forces towards our galaxy, just to quell us.


Well, since they're owned by EA now, I guess there has to be a way for them to make a sequel, and keep milking the cash cow....

[OblivionDawn]

RuthlessGravity wrote...

This other Citadel is the last Halo ring. WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Halo 4 - Mass Effect 3. It. All. Makes. Sense. Lock n' load, I smell war.

No wait, the other Citadel has to be the Ark.

Because the Ark sits outside the galaxy too, and it's got arms and stuff.

MIND BLOWN, CROSSOVER CONFIRMED

[wantedman dan]

Reign Tsumiraki wrote...

The relays can only push, not pull. 

That's not necessarily true, though.

The Omega-4 relay pulled the Normandy back from the Suicide Mission, unless there was some invisible mass relay that we all were unaware of.

[Reign Tsumiraki]

wantedman dan wrote...

Reign Tsumiraki wrote...

The relays can only push, not pull. 

That's not necessarily true, though.

The Omega-4 relay pulled the Normandy back from the Suicide Mission, unless there was some invisible mass relay that we all were unaware of.

That was one thing that got me about ME2. It was never explained how the Normandy got back. It's quite possible that the Omega-4 links to another relay, and we never saw it.

[wantedman dan]

Reign Tsumiraki wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Reign Tsumiraki wrote...

The relays can only push, not pull. 

That's not necessarily true, though.

The Omega-4 relay pulled the Normandy back from the Suicide Mission, unless there was some invisible mass relay that we all were unaware of.

That was one thing that got me about ME2. It was never explained how the Normandy got back. It's quite possible that the Omega-4 links to another relay, and we never saw it.

This is true, however is contradicted by the notion that, every time we choose to enter a new system, we are--in every game--greeted by the familiar scene of entering of a new mass relay.

At the end of the suicide mission, the Normandy simply takes off.

[PHub88]

Another Citadel? As in a giant freaking relay in dark space? I thought that was sort of already known? I mean how else did they originally surprise attack every 50k years. But as for like a twin citadel they wouldn't really have a use for it. It wouldn't have rooms or anything.

[Sisterofshane]

wantedman dan wrote...

Reign Tsumiraki wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Reign Tsumiraki wrote...

The relays can only push, not pull. 

That's not necessarily true, though.

The Omega-4 relay pulled the Normandy back from the Suicide Mission, unless there was some invisible mass relay that we all were unaware of.

That was one thing that got me about ME2. It was never explained how the Normandy got back. It's quite possible that the Omega-4 links to another relay, and we never saw it.

This is true, however is contradicted by the notion that, every time we choose to enter a new system, we are--in every game--greeted by the familiar scene of entering of a new mass relay.

At the end of the suicide mission, the Normandy simply takes off.

I was under the impression that the Mass Relays linked to one another to create a "massless" corrider between the two.  I believe that the movement is still supplied by the ships own thrusters, it's just the corridor that allows for the ship to travel across the galaxy nigh instantaneously.

[wantedman dan]

Sisterofshane wrote...

I was under the impression that the Mass Relays linked to one another to create a "massless" corrider between the two.  I believe that the movement is still supplied by the ships own thrusters, it's just the corridor that allows for the ship to travel across the galaxy nigh instantaneously.

Heh. I'm no astrophysicist so I won't even begin specuating on the propulsion theory.

[redcarpet26]

wantedman dan wrote...

Reign Tsumiraki wrote...

The relays can only push, not pull. 

That's not necessarily true, though.

The Omega-4 relay pulled the Normandy back from the Suicide Mission, unless there was some invisible mass relay that we all were unaware of.

Actually thats kind of a plot hole for ME2. Or at the very least it's an unexplained question. I think it's just assumed Omega 4 connected to a plain ol' single connection relay in the galatic core, they just never show it in the cut scenes at the end. 

[wantedman dan]

redcarpet26 wrote...

Actually thats kind of a plot hole for ME2. Or at the very least it's an unexplained question. I think it's just assumed Omega 4 connected to a plain ol' single connection relay in the galatic core, they just never show it in the cut scenes at the end. 

I was just going by the easiest assumption to make, as I, nor anybody else, have a concrete answer for it.

[PHub88]

redcarpet26 wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Reign Tsumiraki wrote...

The relays can only push, not pull. 

That's not necessarily true, though.

The Omega-4 relay pulled the Normandy back from the Suicide Mission, unless there was some invisible mass relay that we all were unaware of.

Actually thats kind of a plot hole for ME2. Or at the very least it's an unexplained question. I think it's just assumed Omega 4 connected to a plain ol' single connection relay in the galatic core, they just never show it in the cut scenes at the end. 

There had to be another relay there or else they wouldn't have the fuel to get back. Or at least I don't think.

[wantedman dan]

PHub88 wrote...

redcarpet26 wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Reign Tsumiraki wrote...

The relays can only push, not pull. 

That's not necessarily true, though.

The Omega-4 relay pulled the Normandy back from the Suicide Mission, unless there was some invisible mass relay that we all were unaware of.

Actually thats kind of a plot hole for ME2. Or at the very least it's an unexplained question. I think it's just assumed Omega 4 connected to a plain ol' single connection relay in the galatic core, they just never show it in the cut scenes at the end. 

There had to be another relay there or else they wouldn't have the fuel to get back. Or at least I don't think.

Unless, of course, Omega-4 could pull.

[thesnake777]

I'm Ready........Give me Jack, Zaeed and Garrus. Time to conquer the dark space citadel.

[Sisterofshane]

wantedman dan wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...

I was under the impression that the Mass Relays linked to one another to create a "massless" corrider between the two.  I believe that the movement is still supplied by the ships own thrusters, it's just the corridor that allows for the ship to travel across the galaxy nigh instantaneously.

Heh. I'm no astrophysicist so I won't even begin specuating on the propulsion theory.

Eh, even the wiki is conflicted on exactly how the mass relay's work.  I  got my theory on how mass effect works on Space Ships, with the Eezo supplying the "mass lowering", but the Ship still needing he-3 and thrusters to move forward.  I just considered the mass relays to be larger versions of this, but more powerful because they are linked together with a start and end point (look at the loading screen in ME2 where it looks like the ship being pulled into a "funnel")

[wantedman dan]

Sisterofshane wrote...

Eh, even the wiki is conflicted on exactly how the mass relay's work.  I  got my theory on how mass effect works on Space Ships, with the Eezo supplying the "mass lowering", but the Ship still needing he-3 and thrusters to move forward.  I just considered the mass relays to be larger versions of this, but more powerful because they are linked together with a start and end point (look at the loading screen in ME2 where it looks like the ship being pulled into a "funnel")

I'd say this is one subject in which speculations are okay to stay. 

[djspectre]

wantedman dan wrote...

Reign Tsumiraki wrote...

The relays can only push, not pull. 

That's not necessarily true, though.

The Omega-4 relay pulled the Normandy back from the Suicide Mission, unless there was some invisible mass relay that we all were unaware of.

This does bring up a valid point. when the normandy reaches the galactic core, we see everything through the cockpit of the normandy, not from outside of it (like in the battle of the citadel and priorty earth) so we have no idea if there is a twin omega-4-type relay in the galactic core from which to push the normany back to Omega. 

Though, still the prospect of another Citadel or intra-galactic transport system is pretty neat. 

[wantedman dan]

djspectre wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Reign Tsumiraki wrote...

The relays can only push, not pull. 

That's not necessarily true, though.

The Omega-4 relay pulled the Normandy back from the Suicide Mission, unless there was some invisible mass relay that we all were unaware of.

This does bring up a valid point. when the normandy reaches the galactic core, we see everything through the cockpit of the normandy, not from outside of it (like in the battle of the citadel and priorty earth) so we have no idea if there is a twin omega-4-type relay in the galactic core from which to push the normany back to Omega. 

Though, still the prospect of another Citadel or intra-galactic transport system is pretty neat. 

We do, however, see the rear-end of the Normandy as it propels itself back to the Omega Nebula.

[Sisterofshane]

wantedman dan wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...

Eh, even the wiki is conflicted on exactly how the mass relay's work.  I  got my theory on how mass effect works on Space Ships, with the Eezo supplying the "mass lowering", but the Ship still needing he-3 and thrusters to move forward.  I just considered the mass relays to be larger versions of this, but more powerful because they are linked together with a start and end point (look at the loading screen in ME2 where it looks like the ship being pulled into a "funnel")

I'd say this is one subject in which speculations are okay to stay. 

:lol:On this I can agree - I would much rather speculate on the how the tech works as opposed to whether the writers were competent.