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There is another Citadel in dark space.


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Ieldra

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Yes, OP. I've long since concluded that there must be a  Reaper base in intergalactic space with similar attributes as the Citadel. Probably quote a lot bigger though. The one Elyvern and I made up for a fanfic had 1000 km diameter and was a torus with a relay at the centre. All the Reapers could dock there at the same time.

Indeed. interesting possibilities for more stories.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 04 juin 2012 - 03:17 .


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The Trophies of harvested races is a cool idea, Also it could be the collector's new pad.

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The title of this thread made me think of Oceans Eleven, the George Clooney remake, where they have the surveillance hooked up to the fake copy of the casino they're robbing. Think the Reapers pulled a fast one? Maybe that's why no one / not everyone on the Citadel is dead, because they swapped the Citadels.

OP made me actually think though. It hadn't occurred to me that there may be other Citadel structures, but I did envision a hub where the Reapers rest, reflect and gather consensus on the last harvesting period amongst other things. Also, I feel here it is appropriate to mention that I envisioned originally that the Reapers were constantly harvesting all galaxies and that it simply took 50,000 years for them to make a turn of the universe / their section of the universe, assuming there are other Reaper teams harvesting other sections and that it is not a multiverse.

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That would make sense. The point of ME1 was to prevent Sovereign from opening up the Citadel relay and letting the Reapers in. That's what forced them to travel to the Alpha Relay to launch the invasion. But you blow that up in Arrival, delaying and disrupting the invasion even more, which is why you have a fighting chance in ME3.

If there's no direct link from dark space, Sovereign wouldn't have to risk the Citadel attack in ME1 because the Reapers would have to travel to the Alpha Relay anyways. Opening the Citadel relay guarantees surprise and the overwhelming decapitation attack that did in the Protheans.

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It would have been pretty sweet if Shepard had to go to the "Dark Citadel" way out in dark space to stop the Reapers. There he could have discovered the origins of the Reapers. Perhaps their creators lived there, or even still do?

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OGWS wrote...

It would have been pretty sweet if Shepard had to go to the "Dark Citadel" way out in dark space to stop the Reapers. There he could have discovered the origins of the Reapers. Perhaps their creators lived there, or even still do?


That would have been great...sigh, so much wasted potential. The worst part is I would be ok with it if what we got was comparable to what could have been

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Werent we told that there is a mass relay in dark space in ME1? Also i dont think it would look like the citadel since the citadel is just a mass relay in disguse which have to support life for the Keepers.

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djspectre wrote...

Upon re-reading the codex entries, the events of mass effect 1 and the mass effect wiki entry on the citadel, I've concluded that there is another Citadel-class space station in dark space.

Since mass relays only connect to other mass relays, which all resemble each other, it's safe to assume that there is another Citadel to be the matching twin of the current one.

Further, since it's unknown exactly how the Citadel we know was transported to Earth (was it dragged to an existing relay, could an existing relay even transport something that big, can the citadel transport itself), it's safe to assume that the feat could be duplicated with the twin citadel in dark space.

Why does this matter?

Because it leaves open a great opportunity for a really unique DLC or for a continuation of the franchise in some form. 

Either way, I think the prospect of it existing is a fascinating one. 


I don't know why you think exactly that there would have to be a twin Citadel of the same design, couldn't it just be any old relay?

Yes we don't know how the Citadel was exported exactly (it was skimmed over ridiculously), but it could be any number of things, and there is no reason to believe it would be a twin Citadel.

It could make could DLC, however I'm not sure it would have a lot of substance. It would basically be, there happens to be a dual Citadel, the question is, so what?

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It could even be like a "Alpha Citadel" that is to the Reapers what the current Citadel is to the council races, in that it acts as a hub and connects to multiple Citadels in multiple galaxies. I mean, just because they stop synthetics in the Milky Way doesn't mean they wont rise up somewhere else (not that I believe the synthetic/organic conflict)

Edited to Alpha Citadel because super citadel sounds stupid

Modifié par OGWS, 04 juin 2012 - 04:45 .


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It always bugged me, and your post kinda added the missing puzzle, what about the other galaxies? I mean reapers dont just focus only on milky way for no logical reason leaving he rest intact? The dark-space (or just diff galaxy the reapers came from) citadel could open a wide range of possibilities. I mean really i think the reason reapers come every 50k years is because they have other galaxies to reap meanwhile. And if they dont then argument of starchild is even dumber, since the "evil" synthetics from other galaxies would've probably allready arrived to the milky way.

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While the OP's assertion is only theory, it makes sense, and is an interesting observation.

In the immortal words of Commander Shepard,

"Good catch..."

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I've assumed this since ME1.  *shrug*  Thought it was pretty obvious. 

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Doctor Moustache wrote...

I've assumed this since ME1.  *shrug*  Thought it was pretty obvious. 


Well some of us aren't as smart as you are, Mr. Fancy Pants.  >_O

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djspectre

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Ieldra2 wrote...

Yes, OP. I've long since concluded that there must be a  Reaper base in intergalactic space with similar attributes as the Citadel. Probably quote a lot bigger though. The one Elyvern and I made up for a fanfic had 1000 km diameter and was a torus with a relay at the centre. All the Reapers could dock there at the same time.

Indeed. interesting possibilities for more stories.


As someone also pointed out, yes this issue is present since ME1 (which I noticed also), but I assumed that ME3 would resolve this gaping plothole by sending us to the other side of the citadel relay corridor. But since they didn't, I'm mentioning it here, not only to revive the discussion, but also to explore ideas for the 'dark citadel', as someone called it, in DLC, EC, whatev.