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[Dunhart]

Considering what the game lets on about the Gray Wardens in Anderfels, I somehow get the feeling it's not all benevolent. Somehow the meeting at the jedi council in KotOR 2, and various other plot points where someone is basically invited to some place to get imprisoned/killed, springs to mind.

[Nialos]

Catt128 wrote...

Statulos wrote...

I just forgot the part of "probably the order wants the gallons and gallons of blood taken from the archdemon corpse to create future wardens..."

Hahahaha, hey.. that leads to another question. How are they going to rebuild the order if all the Blight has ended and there are no darkspawns any longer? Or there are still darkspawn in the Deep Roads ? Then what's the whole meaning? why are we here?!

No blood - No Joining?

The fifth Blight is over. Two more are left, with a potential eighth due to that damn God Baby. So, there are plenty of Darkspawn to procure blood from, and that means the Grey Wardens still have meaning.

[Thiefy]

well this ending only comes up if you are in a relationship with alistair and he is king. the text won't come up if your male or if you and ali go running off into the sunset together. or if it does, it is not mentioned. it's probably because as king and a grey warden who slew (or as part of the enterouge) the archdemon, alistair suddenly becomes relly high profile where as with the others, he can keep a lower profile. techinically though, the pc can survive, make him king and stay as chancellor , and nothing would happen to alistair, so it's probably yet another way to twist the knife in our poor maiden hearts, lol.



i mentioned this who thing in another thread before too. it probably does have to do with them wondering why one of us isn't dead, and how we both managed to survive. ali probably caught wind of this and sent himself instead of his beloved that and, there may also be a possibility that they know about morrigan's ritual and speicifically wanted the *father*. If people can be tracked by blood, well they have half of the child's blood with him. you know it can't be something good though since it ended with "he PROMISED his love he would return 'someday". Funny, I believe Fergus said the same thing to his wife and child and they ended up getting shanked.

[Forsakerr]

there are plenty of darkspawns left , you only ended the blight not erradicated the darkspawn , also on the Op's screenshot it looks like you were never considered a queen/princes since it mentions spent time with his love at Anora's discomfort so you probably got a bugged ending , unless i understood wrong ad you stayed his mistress and not his wife

[Herr Uhl]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
 you know it can't be something good though since it ended with "he PROMISED his love he would return 'someday". Funny, I believe Fergus said the same thing to his wife and child and they ended up getting shanked.

His promise to Oren about him seeing a sword real up close was true though. So promises do come true in some cases.

[heretica]

Forsakerr wrote...

there are plenty of darkspawns left , you only ended the blight not erradicated the darkspawn , also on the Op's screenshot it looks like you were never considered a queen/princes since it mentions spent time with his love at Anora's discomfort so you probably got a bugged ending , unless i understood wrong ad you stayed his mistress and not his wife

No, take a look: (I've also added some of the story about the darkspawn)

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Modifié par Catt128, 12 décembre 2009 - 04:03 .

[Forsakerr]

no to what? , in the first screenshot i have looked it mentioned Anora's discomfort and i got the same thing when my dalish elf was his misstress , maybe it s the only slide that was bugged i dont know unless you mean a no to something else

[heretica]

Forsakerr wrote...

no to what? , in the first screenshot i have looked it mentioned Anora's discomfort and i got the same thing when my dalish elf was his misstress , maybe it s the only slide that was bugged i dont know unless you mean a no to something else

Check the screenies I posted above. It says: "Catelyn married King Alistair in a lavish ceremony six months after his conoration, becoming the princess-consort of Ferelden. The two toured the nation soon afterwards, and the people were ecstatic to see how the king adored his new bride"

[TheGreenLion]

Maybe he is to take Duncan's place (assuming he led Ferelden's Wardens) as their Ferelden commander/general. Or, maybe they want to gut him since he decided to toss his Grey Warden role after the battle to be King...perhaps they see it as a betrayal or maybe they just force him to decide: Death or Grey Warden. Hopefully it's the former, Alistair was a good companion with plenty of funny in his dialogues.

[Forsakerr]

i know you are the queen but this http://img46.imagesh...09121200491.jpg

is wrong it say queen Anora and you are the queen , that what im trying to say , that slide is wrong , i got it as a misstress so i say that you got a bugged slide

[heretica]

Forsakerr wrote...

i know you are the queen but this http://img46.imagesh...09121200491.jpg

is wrong it say queen Anora and you are the queen , that what im trying to say , that slide is wrong , i got it as a misstress so i say that you got a bugged slide

Strange, I get your point.. maybe it is some generic slide they put in there for everyone? lol this doesn't make sense

I think I locked Anora in a tower. :s

[Forsakerr]

or you got a bugged one , people mentioned that they got fubared ending like you did the ritual but anora says Alister died bravely only to see him in the next scene and stuff and other weird slides heeh

edit: i m gonna try to be a queen with my noble and gonna check the slides , i think i only have the elves remaining in the treaty will complete it then the landsmeet and gonna post what i ve got

Modifié par Forsakerr, 12 décembre 2009 - 04:32 .

[heretica]

Forsakerr wrote...

or you got a bugged one , people mentioned that they got fubared ending like you did the ritual but anora says Alister died bravely only to see him in the next scene and stuff and other weird slides heeh

edit: i m gonna try to be a queen with my noble and gonna check the slides , i think i only have the elves remaining in the treaty will complete it then the landsmeet and gonna post what i ve got

Haha weeeird! 

Let me know when you do! 

[vocalemuse]

Yes, that slide is bugged. My human noble female got the same thing and Anora was locked away in a tower. I hope they fix it in a future patch... not to mention the glitched codex entries too.

[AtreiyaN7]

Yep, Weisshaupt Fortress is in the Anderfels, and yeah, I think they're probably pretty interested in getting an explanation as to why you and Alistair didn't die (something I'm working into a story atm actually). The Anders Wardens are supposed to effectively be the rulers due to the weak king, etc. etc. and they sound pretty serious.



I believe that being called to Weisshaupt is supposed to be part of the "Alistair is not king & you promise to stay and protect Denerim/rebuild the Grey Wardens" ending IF you put Anora forth as queen and agree to support her before the Landsmeet. I just can't quite remember which it was, but I know it was one of the two (promise to stay OR rebuild the Wardens).

[heretica]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Yep, Weisshaupt Fortress is in the Anderfels, and yeah, I think they're probably pretty interested in getting an explanation as to why you and Alistair didn't die (something I'm working into a story atm actually). The Anders Wardens are supposed to effectively be the rulers due to the weak king, etc. etc. and they sound pretty serious.

I believe that being called to Weisshaupt is supposed to be part of the "Alistair is not king & you promise to stay and protect Denerim/rebuild the Grey Wardens" ending IF you put Anora forth as queen and agree to support her before the Landsmeet. I just can't quite remember which it was, but I know it was one of the two (promise to stay OR rebuild the Wardens).

Oh so you think that part is bugged aswell? Or is meant to be that way ?

pd: i'm looking forward to read your story  ;>

[T0paze]

It's understandable that they should invite someone to explain what the hell happened in Denerim and why the Grey Warden who killed Archdemon didn't die. I'm not sure, however, why they would summon Alistair instead of the PC.

[AtreiyaN7]

Catt128 wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Yep, Weisshaupt Fortress is in the Anderfels, and yeah, I think they're probably pretty interested in getting an explanation as to why you and Alistair didn't die (something I'm working into a story atm actually). The Anders Wardens are supposed to effectively be the rulers due to the weak king, etc. etc. and they sound pretty serious.

I believe that being called to Weisshaupt is supposed to be part of the "Alistair is not king & you promise to stay and protect Denerim/rebuild the Grey Wardens" ending IF you put Anora forth as queen and agree to support her before the Landsmeet. I just can't quite remember which it was, but I know it was one of the two (promise to stay OR rebuild the Wardens).

Oh so you think that part is bugged aswell? Or is meant to be that way ?

pd: i'm looking forward to read your story  ;>

LOL, thanks - at the rate I'm going it may take a while (Chapter 1 almost done if I can squeeze in more writing time). Anyhow, yes, I'm of the opinion that it's bugged and that Alistair is only supposed to be summoned to Weisshaupt if Anora is queen & you choose to stay in Denerim. I'm fairly certain that it the tension with Anora gets mentioned, but having finished the game the first time after staying up 24-hours+ my memory might be a little suspect.

I did two complete playthroughs so far, but my third is taking longer due to work - authors with terribly formatted manuscripts being the bane of my existence. *sigh* I think I shall see if I can trigger it again (different elf mage) when I finish (thankfully I only have the Deep Roads left & then it's Landsmeet time pretty much - I don't count the Alienage section as much work - hah). Now that I think about it, when I picked "rebuild the Grey Wardens," I'm pretty sure I got the "he doesn't leave your side except to go build that memorial for Duncan" thingy - no mention of Weisshaupt at all.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 12 décembre 2009 - 08:00 .

[T0paze]

I guess it's easy to bribe the Grey Wardens, then. Just do something useful for the order, and they won't ask unnecessary questions.

[tigrina]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...
I believe that being called to Weisshaupt is supposed to be part of the "Alistair is not king & you promise to stay and protect Denerim/rebuild the Grey Wardens" ending IF you put Anora forth as queen and agree to support her before the Landsmeet. I just can't quite remember which it was, but I know it was one of the two (promise to stay OR rebuild the Wardens).

I've just reloaded a save game to check this, but it isn't true. If you put Anora on the throne and do the 'rebuild Grey Warden' option, Weisshaupt isn't mentioned at all. That Weisshaupt bit is turning up in confusing ways.

[Thiefy]

Weisshaupt only shows up if Alistair is king and you are in a relationship with him.

[Cazlee]

I think that slide makes the most sense if Anora is queen by herself and you're her chancellor. She's threatened by Alistair's presense because she fears that he may still be a threat to her throne. Since you're the chancellor you have to stay with the Queen at the palace and Alistair goes by himself to meet the gray wardens.

[LynxAQ]

LdyShayna wrote...

I get the impression that they are calling on him to explain how EXACTLY the Blight was stopped without sacrificing a Grey Warden in the process, but I could be wrong.

You are wrong because I got this ending when refusing Morrigans deal and sacrificed myself. The ending must have something to do with hardening him and marrying Anora, or something of that variant cause it definately does not have anything to d with Morrigan.

Like I said, I got it when I sacrificed myself and refused Morrigans deal.

[LdyShayna]

LynxAQ wrote...
You are wrong because I got this ending when refusing Morrigans deal and sacrificed myself. The ending must have something to do with hardening him and marrying Anora, or something of that variant cause it definately does not have anything to d with Morrigan.

Like I said, I got it when I sacrificed myself and refused Morrigans deal.

Thanks for the additional info.  I've only seen the non-hardened Alistair marrying Anora with the male PC not sacrificing himself ending, so far, and that does have him being summoned, at least in dialog.

[LynxAQ]

Like I said, "of that variant", so perhaps it just has to do with him marrying Anora and perhaps some other dialogue choice at some stage in the game.



Or it could just be /roll 2. Get a 1 and he doesn't get summoned and get a 2 and he does get summoned. Wouldnt surprise me.