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mikepaul

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Apparently the way some people are dealing with their impatience over Matchmaking changes is to start a game shorthanded because somebody will be dragged in to help them. 

This means Gold games become magnets for any player, no matter if they selected Bronze or not.

New rule for people who end up in higher-level games than they asked for: die.  Do not waste consumables.

When enough Gold games end early or with partial extractions, leaders will learn that waiting for a full Gold team is the better deal...

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Yes, because no one can 3-man or duo a Gold match...

Oi, let hosts do whatever they want with their lobbies, tis' their choice.

Modifié par Chriss5688, 04 juin 2012 - 03:23 .


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Olaf_de_IJsbeer

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I do not think people start Gold games with less than four people specifically to lure Bronze-level players into a trap.

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Tangster

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Why don't you AFK and get yourself booted then.
or, y'know...quit?

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I think it's just as likely they started out with 4 players, and 2 people got disconnected or rage quit.

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Chriss5688 wrote...

Yes, because no one can 3-man or duo a Gold match...

Oi, let hosts do whatever they want with their lobbies, tis' their choice.


This is fine as long as the three man team does not throw a fit at the new guy who can't handle gold and is not equipped to be in gold and is dragging the rest of the team down.

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Chriss5688 wrote...

Yes, because no one can 3-man or duo a Gold match...

Oi, let hosts do whatever they want with their lobbies, tis' their choice.

I find doing a two man ran is so much more fun then solo lol

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Beerfish wrote...

Chriss5688 wrote...

Yes, because no one can 3-man or duo a Gold match...

Oi, let hosts do whatever they want with their lobbies, tis' their choice.


This is fine as long as the three man team does not throw a fit at the new guy who can't handle gold and is not equipped to be in gold and is dragging the rest of the team down.


I don't care about it as long as said new guy is not leeching. Can't say the same for everyone, of course.

cory257383 wrote...

Chriss5688 wrote...

Yes, because no one can 3-man or duo a Gold match...

Oi, let hosts do whatever they want with their lobbies, tis' their choice.


I find doing a two man ran is so much more fun then solo lol


Agreed. Duo'ing is much more fun than solo'ing for me, less frustrations as well. =]

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Or take it as a challenge and do your best. Who knows, you might get better and start doing gold.

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Beerfish wrote...

This is fine as long as the three man team does not throw a fit at the new guy who can't handle gold and is not equipped to be in gold and is dragging the rest of the team down.


If all you can do is be a bullet sponge, just be the best bullet sponge you can be.

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Tricking bronze searchers into gold games is an exploit.

(There's a bug where the search finds lobbies based upon how they started. Changing it to gold after creating the bronze lobby attracts players searching for bronze.)

That said, if I find myself in a game I didn't intend to join, I always do my best. Consumables aren't that hard to come by, anyway -- you get them incidentally while trying to gear up. I've never had to buy a Jumbo Equipment Pack.

Only if it's truly hopeless, like I'm alone and I've medigeled twice and it still doesn't look good, do I give up. But then it's mainly so everyone can stop waiting and we can go back to the lobby.

Actually I'm often frustrated by people who don't use their consumables. I'll use a Cobra Missile on a Phantom or even a Ravager if I'm the last man standing and I'm not confident I can take it.

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Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...

I do not think people start Gold games with less than four people specifically to lure Bronze-level players into a trap.


I love to do this.

Great fun!

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Mojenator12345 wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

This is fine as long as the three man team does not throw a fit at the new guy who can't handle gold and is not equipped to be in gold and is dragging the rest of the team down.


If all you can do is be a bullet sponge, just be the best bullet sponge you can be.



As long as people don't run to revive you when they shouldn't. I used to run headlong into where my allies fell without looking, trying to be a hero.

But you can be a bullet sponge without dying. Just play carefully. Hang out in cover, ducking out to take a few shots when your shields charge up. You'll keep enemies busy, if nothing else. And just that can be huge.

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mikepaul wrote...

Apparently the way some people are dealing with their impatience over Matchmaking changes is to start a game shorthanded because somebody will be dragged in to help them. 

This means Gold games become magnets for any player, no matter if they selected Bronze or not.

New rule for people who end up in higher-level games than they asked for: die.  Do not waste consumables.

When enough Gold games end early or with partial extractions, leaders will learn that waiting for a full Gold team is the better deal...

Is quitting the match that hard? And don't tell me you have never been in the situation when 2-3 people get disconnected at the same time.

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Kind of a silly idea. We have started 2 man gold games lately due to the matchmaking and not had anyone join until late in the game. Gold is very doable with 2 people, but if you do get thrown into the game stick with the team and help them out. You'll get better by playing gold and you'll get more credits in a shorter time.

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I don't really know how common it is for people searching for Bronze to get dropped into Silver/Gold. I know it happens as I've been dropped into Bronze/Silver when searching for Gold a couple of times myself, but for me those occasions are very, very rare.

So my opinion on this particular issue is:
If you get dropped into an ongoing match and you feel like things are off and then notice you were dropped into a higher/lesser difficulty than you wanted, simply ask yourself if you have the time to spare.

If you have the time to play a potentionally disastrous match, then by all means, just go with it. People that get dropped into lower difficulty levels can simply run with it and try to reduce their consumable utilization to an absolute minimum, shouldn't be too hard at all.

For people that were dropped into higher difficulties than wanted, I do always advice to simply go with the flow. Stick yourself to another player (best not the Infiltratos if you have the choice) and just follow him/her and try your best. It can't be any worse than a total party wipe on wave one, in which case you lost maybe five minutes. If you get past wave three, you already have the credits equal to Bronze completion, if you get past wave six, you have the credits equal for Silver completion. And in any case, you always earn some experience. And if you happen to play with decent players, better yet with ones that communicate, then you can get some really helpful pieces of advice/help to refine your skills.


That is my take on it, never waste a chance to learn.

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Big Jack Shepard wrote...

Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...

I do not think people start Gold games with less than four people specifically to lure Bronze-level players into a trap.


I love to do this.

Great fun!


You, sir, are pretty damned mean.

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Big Jack Shepard wrote...

Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...

I do not think people start Gold games with less than four people specifically to lure Bronze-level players into a trap.


I love to do this.

Great fun!

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That's how I ended up with a lvl 9 salarian infiltrator on Jade in a gold match.

Not happy.

I picked Bronze for a reason. The system needs to respect it. If for some stange reason there are no matches that fit my criteria (any enemy, any location, on bronze), then just tell me so and dump me back in the lobby. Don't put me in a gold or silver match.

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Actually, why not give it a shot. I give it a shot, as long as I make it past 3, 6 or 10, I get oodles of money. And oodles of XP. Doesn't matter if I contribute that much or not -- I'm not going to since I'm not prepared for gold.

If the system's going to gimp my fun, I may as well get some benefits out of it.

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Rolenka wrote...

Tricking bronze searchers into gold games is an exploit.


You can't be serious. Actually sounds like a work-around for the useless N7 matchmaking system.

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It seems I only get pulled into Gold games after I promote class. It happened twice this weekend. There wasn't much a 1st level Sential is going to do on Gold beside die, especially when I am testing out a weapon I just unlocked.

Now twice this weekend, I had trouble getting a game, so I just started one by myself figuring people would get pulled in. These were just Bronze games. By round 3, I had 3 teammates.

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I have not been thrown into a silver/gold match when searching bronze in awhile. If I do, I'd try like heck to help the team. Consumables aren't that hard to get imo. I'd actually like some in-game way to gear up more if it happens.

This past weekend, I started bronze games with less than full lobbies because it seemed faster for people to join in-mission than wait in the lobby. Maybe some silver/gold searchers joined those and no one quit. I think you should give it a try. I still play mostly bronze, but didn't feel like I could do silver well until I got placed in wave 2 of a silver match once.

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I hate when people start gold matches without four people. It is really dumb. I only play gold, so it isn't that I am getting put in gold. It is that you can't use equipment or change your character to fit with the group. The fact that they don't understand why this is needed, is reason enough for me to not play with them. I just leave and find a new game.

I will play if put in a match later though. If it looks like someone just left, I stick around.

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Lynx7725 wrote...

Actually, why not give it a shot. I give it a shot, as long as I make it past 3, 6 or 10, I get oodles of money. And oodles of XP. Doesn't matter if I contribute that much or not -- I'm not going to since I'm not prepared for gold.

If the system's going to gimp my fun, I may as well get some benefits out of it.


Usually I get dumped in the middle of a match and everyone dies before I can last long enough to get credits.  So my time and effort is wasted.  Maybe I get 10k credits which is 5 less than what I would have gotten on a Bronze extraction.